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SadDoctor
Anime season 29 Apr 02:29
joined Oct 5, 2016

I'm Watching "Yaoi! on ice" tomorrow. It look's like fun. Also it'll be my first Yaoi anime.

It's great, but it's really not yaoi. It's just gay.

SadDoctor
Anime season 22 Apr 14:10
joined Oct 5, 2016

Tsuki ga Kirei is completely het, but it's a really charming coming of age middle school romance. Most middle school / high school romances present a fantasy of hyper-competent, independent, sexual teenagers, which of course teenagers enjoy viewing themselves as. Tsuki ga Kirei is way more of a realistic show - the kids are totally into each other but are also nervous as hell around each other and don't know what to say, their parents are around and engaged in their kids' lives, which of course to a couple of middle schoolers is just the most embarrassing thing possible. 3 episodes in and so far it's been really adorable.

SadDoctor
joined Oct 5, 2016

I really appreciate the actually adult behavior of these characters.

Main girl is like, "Yeah, I dunno what's going on, but right now I'm focused on my career so I'm going to delay making a decision."

And then the big deadline is past, so she's just like fuck it, wanna go out sometime?

Even the delay of romance is made because of an understandable reason, instead of just perpetual cold feet or stupid misunderstandings.

SadDoctor
Beloved. discussion 04 Apr 19:22
joined Oct 5, 2016

Everyone's talking about all these relationship probs that she's about to break off, but did anyone pay attention to Doc getting excepted for somethin abroad??

Yeah she has had her sabbatical abroad approved, but she didn't seem to happy about it which makes me think she applied for it before meeting Ding. A sabbatical is a rest from work, or a break, often lasting from two months to a year in case you didn't know.

It actually gets brought up that she applied back in Ch9 when Ding Yi gets to meet Wei Wei's friends. Going abroad has been a long time dream of Wei Wei's though, she wanted to do the same thing earlier in her life by running away with Dr. Liu.

I wonder if that's the closest to a happy end that we'll get here, Wei Wei and Ding Yi moving to Boston together?

I mean, plainly Wei Wei wants to get out of the country to somewhere that she can come out of the closet, but fleeing to a foreign country with your secret underage lover is generally not a story that works out well :)

SadDoctor
Beloved. discussion 02 Apr 22:14
joined Oct 5, 2016

That scene with her tying her shoelaces felt downright uncomfortable. Wei Wei isn't a bad person, and she isn't some sort of sexual predator or anything. But dis girl is toooo yooooung for her, and she knows it. This isn't a love affair, it's Wei Wei having an early midlife crisis and shacking up with someone that she doesn't really have any true connection with. She's not in love, she's reliving past love.

For that matter it's not even clear that the girl is actually in love with her either, it seems like she's at least partly seeking an escape from her home, although we don't know why yet.

Like, this story is about a relationship between two people, but so far I don't think it's really correct to call it a romance. We're not really supposed to be cheering on this relationship, even though we can root for both of the characters the story keeps pointing out all the ways in which this is totally not a healthy relationship.

SadDoctor
joined Oct 5, 2016

Chapter 16 (eng)

This actually feels a bit like a turning point in the story. This is the first time anyone's actually busted out the "L" word. Until now both of the girls have been operating under the core assumption that of course they're straight. It's why our protagonist didn't view the stuff she was doing with her friend as cheating, because you can't cheat with another girl.

Someone actually introducing the idea that the reason she had a boyfriend was to hide who she really was - a lesbian - is a subtle but massive change to her world view.

SadDoctor
Anime season 13 Mar 02:48
joined Oct 5, 2016

What's the point of marking spoilers when you're showing spoilers out in the open as images?

Uh, I can choose to not click on spoilery images. Which those images were identified as.

I can't magically prevent myself from not reading uncovered text spoilers.

joined Oct 5, 2016

there are a lot more translated chapters available, why are they not on dynasty yet? just havent bothered, or are they not allowed from certain providers, or ?

Where can I find those chapters?

I found this, which has links to (fairly rough) translations up to chapter 26.

http://pastebin.com/SGQYWTJP

SadDoctor
Asian yuri movies? 11 Feb 18:43
joined Oct 5, 2016

Hormones (Thai drama): season 1, season 2, season 3. The yuri couple is Dao and Koi, here's some of their scenes, there are spoilers in the video, obviously. If you don't want to go through all of the show here are all Dao x Koi scenes.

I ended up staying up 'til like 4 AM watching Dao x Koi scenes. That was excellent. Especially her coming out scene to her dad was really affecting.

SadDoctor
joined Oct 5, 2016

Kishi Torajirou's stuff is always such a delicate balance between fanservice and genuine, subtle emotional writing, I'm really not sure I'd trust any anime studio to get it right. It's pretty easy to imagine it adapted into just a pure fanservice show.

SadDoctor
Asian yuri movies? 10 Feb 17:38
joined Oct 5, 2016

Yeah, it was just one of those shows where even though I liked it it felt like it could've been so much better with just some really basic fixes.

SadDoctor
Asian yuri movies? 10 Feb 04:49
joined Oct 5, 2016

Transit Girls

It's like an abridged version of Citrus, it's not a movie but it will only take about 2.5 hours to watch the whole thing.

I watched this today!

It's... Odd. There were parts I really liked, I liked the main girl a lot and how the show made it pretty obvious from the beginning she was in the closet.

But goddamn the kisses were soooo stiff and the taller actress just looked uncomfortable with it, it had all the sensuality of someone getting forced to kiss their weird-smelling grandma goodbye.

Also some of the use of music was downright criminally bad.

Now I'm feeling like I'm just ragging on it, but I really did like it overall!

SadDoctor
Asian yuri movies? 08 Feb 14:07
joined Oct 5, 2016

A Girl at my Door isn't exactly yuri, but it's a great movie about homophobia and other social issues in South Korea. It's very good, but intense. Definitely stay away if you're in the mood for romantic fluff :)

SadDoctor
Anime season 05 Feb 03:35
joined Oct 5, 2016

I mean, honestly I have very little hope that anything like this would develop

But I would be really tickled if it turns out her "it's just an adolescence thing" explanation was only an excuse, and actually there really is more there. She certainly doesn't seem to have any interest in sensei, she wasn't covering up some sort of interest in biting him, she really seemed uninterested.

SadDoctor
Anime season 04 Feb 22:34
joined Oct 5, 2016

As much as I loath harem setups, I think Demi-chan does a pretty good job keeping a distinction between Iron Man's flirting with the other teacher versus the simple crushes that some of the girls have on him.

And even though vampire said right in the beginning that oh, liking ice maiden is only an adolescent thing, she still sure seems into her. Especially with how she's talked about biting a neck as being a sort of sexual thing and how she really wants to bite ice maiden...

SadDoctor
joined Oct 5, 2016

I think the thing that really differentiates this from other "Oh my crush is hopeless, darn" stories is that in most of those the character's growth is just sort of a generic adolescent change towards adulthood, there's not really a change in the direction of their life. It also usually includes the assumption that same-sex crushes are just a part of adolescence that will be grown out of.

Whereas with this story, the main girl's need for intimacy and love is something that she doesn't even realize she's missing. She would've stayed with a dude that was only using her for sex and thinking that it made her cool, not even really understanding why she felt so miserable. And even though her crush isn't going to happen, it's not "fake", nor just a stage she's going through, it doesn't work out because her friend is straight but the main girl's feelings and her attraction is real.

If anything, that the friend doesn't respond to her "I like you" at the end moves it beyond just schoolgirl yuri, because the main girl is trying to move things beyond just a sort of romantic friendship. So it's a self-discovery for her, that she likes girls as well as boys, or maybe more than boys.

SadDoctor
Anime season 27 Jan 15:26
joined Oct 5, 2016

I actually really disagree with the idea that the protagonists of Kuzu no Honkai are acting like adults. They're horny teenagers who are sure that if they don't pair up with their crush they'll never ever love anyone again. That's not how adults act, but that's a very teenager way of thinking! They're teenagers, not elementary kids, they have libidos.

joined Oct 5, 2016

And I mean, on the most basic level, Morinaga writes romances. OF COURSE there's going to be cliches, how could there not be?

joined Oct 5, 2016

Part of the thing with a lot of yuri, especially the yuri that Morinaga writes, is that it's aimed at a relatively young age range, it's for teens and young adults, this ain't josei. And stories for that kind of age range don't -really- tend to innovate a ton, not because they suck necessarily, but because a new audience is constantly coming of age and experiencing these things for the first time themselves and want to read fiction that speaks to their experiences.

Hana and Hina is still that basic sort of yuri story structure of girl meets girl, there's confusion over whether they like each other or not, and it'll no doubt end with them starting to date. But it's still going to speak to its readers about dealing with fears of coming out, not being sure if someone you like will be homophobic towards you if they find out, and trying to maintain a public image versus being true to what you like. And where once yuri dealt with these issues in a very roundabout "oh it's just adolescence!", winkwink kind of way, writers like Morinaga shifted that into being much more undisguised in its sexual themes and romances.

Granted Morinaga is now starting to get outdone by a whole new generation of even more explicitly queer mangaka, but that's more a demonstration of how quickly the younger generation's culture is changing in regards to homosexuality than it is that Morinaga is like, hopelessly behind the times or something. And for a lot of people in less progressive areas Morinaga's work is still going to speak to them.

SadDoctor
joined Oct 5, 2016

A sure sign that I've read way too much yuri drama was that I was genuinely surprised that they stuck together after high school. I was really expecting the relationship not to last like most yuri manga where they get separated after graduation.

It felt very purposeful in taking a lot of yuri tropes and undercutting them one by one with a specifically lesbian take.

She talks about previous same-sex crushes from a young age, and identifies herself as one of "them", instead of their romance being that standard yuri first crush where she learns about feelings in a safe penis-free space and then they graduate on to heterosexual dating.

People know she dated a girl before, and they connect that to her being gay, not just some sort of yuri schoolgirl thing not to be taken seriously. Being identified as a lesbian is something that complicates her relationship with others.

Ending specifically by saying yo, this is a real relationship that lasted, not just some schoolgirl stage. And communicating that to a younger generation of girl who herself is wondering if her own same-sex experiences are "real" or not.

SadDoctor
Anime season 20 Jan 01:41
joined Oct 5, 2016

One thing that is interesting with KnH is that
Despite Ecchan's kind of crappy ending later (although the manga's not finished yet, so maybe we'll see her again), Hanabi does find that she really likes having sex with Ecchan. She even thinks about how it feels better than when she's with Mugi, the male lead. Hanabi definitely comes across as finding out that she's bi, at least to me. It certainly goes faaar beyond any sort of mere yuri schoolgirl kissing.

So their breakup isn't because they're not sexually compatible, kind of the opposite - it's because in the end Hanabi is still not in love with her, she's just using her friend for sex, to feel desired and wanted, and she feels shitty doing that to someone she does care about, if not romantically. As far as who (if anyone) she actually ends up with, who knows, Hanabi is kinda fucked up.

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joined Oct 5, 2016

Haha, yeah, I've skipped through the first two episodes now and like

There's not really any overt romance between them, but there's hella sexual tension. I doubt it's going anywhere but it's not just fans with yuri goggles either, it's pretty obviously being done on purpose.

I've always been a sucker for those rich girl / poor girl or mistress / servant type of relationships, will definitely check this out properly once I have some free time.

joined Oct 5, 2016

I can't find a stream for Night Life, but certainly from reading the dramabeans recaps it sure sounds like it's got some yuri overtones.

Less in the script itself, but that the two female leads perform it with a lot of sexual tension

SadDoctor
Anime season 18 Jan 03:08
joined Oct 5, 2016

Kuzu no Honkai started out OK, hopefully the anime smooths out some of the dumber chapters from the manga.

Judging by how explicit the sexual themes were in ep 1, they're definitely going to get to the bisexuality as well.

joined Oct 5, 2016

Yeah it wanted me to download an executable and I was like ooooooh hohoho no, no I don't think so