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Ao3
joined Apr 23, 2019

I NEED A SEQUEELLLLLLLLLLL WHAT THE HELL

6cd
joined May 11, 2016

I'm reminded of Infinite Stratos. It's when Charlotte and Laura go on that date. I kid you not that is probably the most exciting thing in that entire anime.

A%20hentai
joined Feb 16, 2016

I really like this. It would be great if it were a bit longer. A yuri side-couple will appeal to the audience, so it's fine~

joined Apr 6, 2018

rereading this once again, it's a really interesting concept. I hope someone could use this idea and end it nicely

joined Mar 25, 2020

What happens after the manga is completed? does everything just cease to exist?

Madame_Firenze
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joined Jul 17, 2015

brings me back to when I watched Infinite Stratos in high school and shipped Charlotte and Laura lol

Sakura Cartelet
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joined May 28, 2016

What happens after the manga is completed? does everything just cease to exist?

The manga will never be completed, because harem anime/manga is almost always inconclusive.

I'm reminded of Infinite Stratos. It's when Charlotte and Laura go on that date. I kid you not that is probably the most exciting thing in that entire anime.

Wait Charlotte and Laura go on a date in that show? When did they do that?

I really like this. It would be great if it were a bit longer. A yuri side-couple will appeal to the audience, so it's fine~

Given how uninteresting protagonist-kun is I wouldn't be surprised if the yuri couple became the main couple and protagonist-kun and his members become more in the background.

last edited at May 9, 2020 1:19AM

52722-l
joined Nov 8, 2017

It would be fun if this originated an actual series

Book%20and%20cloakhbq1
joined Aug 1, 2011

I wish this was a bit longer. Maybe not a full series, but long enough to see how Misaki disrupts the old status quo and the rippling effects of that disruption.

Also, I think the First Heroine was a bit off in her assessment. It's true that extras are drawn as faceless background scenery, because they're unimportant and the audience doesn't need to differentiate them or even acknowledge their presence beyond setting the scene in a crowd. By the same token, it's problematic if side characters are drawn as faceless background pieces too often, because they're not as important and not as distinct and they'll quickly get lost in such a position.

However, there's another type of character that can be safely drawn as a faceless bit of background: A main character. Main characters have so much narrative weight that fully drawing them in a scene will almost always result in them dominating that scene, so you can draw them as a background piece to place them in the scene and mask their narrative weight. Even in that diminished position, they still exert so much influence, and should be so sufficiently important to the readers, that they don't really fade away and there's no risk of them fading from their role.

Now, when Misaki came in she completely disrupted the old pace of the manga, changed the roles of previously important characters, and generally warped the narrative with her mere presence. Does that sound like a side character to you? Because it sounds like a new main character to me. One who might be occasionally drawn into the background so the artist can show her integrating with the school and her influence on events, even when she's not directly involved.

Judging by what Megumi was saying, and how the manga was depicted, it seems like it was starting to stagnate and, maybe, lose popularity. Misaki was obviously recruited, from a completely different manga and genre, to force a change of pace, either as the beginnings of a spin-off or the co-lead of a new arc.

Huh. That puts me in mind of an interesting idea for a sequel. Maybe Ms. First actually understands Misaki's position and considers her a threat, since her own position would be significantly diminished by a new lead and change in genre. So she's trying to force Misaki into a safer role. Perhaps she's even done the same to the other girls before and it's her fault that the manga started to stagnate.

And Misaki should have an impressive set of survival skills, seeing as she has been living and scavenging in a war area for some time... she prolly can use guns, jury-rig all sort of devices, fight with improvised weapons, make a campfire and cook food on it... but, so far, she hasn't had the chance to put any of these to use... that's a side of her that should definitely be explored...

In conclusion, leaving this manga as a oneshot is a crime. I demand a series! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ノ

So, what I'm hearing is Misaki needs to go Full Metal Panic?

Ao3
joined Apr 23, 2019

Im hoping that the main protagonist slowly changes as the readers become more interested in the yuri subplot

joined Sep 4, 2020

I wanted more and what's with that plot? But the ending is good

F6c7d5d1-1d08-49c3-974d-d6169caf13f6
joined May 8, 2017

I wonder if all the heroines hook up with each other, will the main male interest turn into an 'extra character?'

Seira%20the%20boss
joined Jun 25, 2017

Original and interesting; I would say

Smallpred
joined Jun 29, 2015

brings me back to when I watched Infinite Stratos in high school and shipped Charlotte and Laura lol

I slogged thru Infinite Stratos because it has mecha.
Even back then I wasn't into yuri as much but I was thinking damn Ichika is so dense the girls should just go out with each other haha

On the manga itself, this was an incredible read. Really made me smile as the usual harem anime tropes were lampshaded.

joined Aug 7, 2018

Does two members of your ridiculous harem getting it on count as you getting cuckolded?

528
joined Jul 12, 2017

Super meta

Avatar2
joined Sep 13, 2018

totally incredible. HOly sh*t

D05536d6-01d1-4527-9102-4cc772fad5ed
joined Jul 6, 2020

Anyone else feel really horrible for the regular high school girl who was supposed to be a new harem member but got put into a gorey tragedy-porn war story? You could make a whole series about that on its own as she tries to subvert the plot to survive (and maybe gets a gf along the way)

joined Mar 15, 2015

This is an interesting concept, especially with the meta-awareness the heroines possess. I wish they'd made a series about this, since that way, the story would have had enough time to explore the concept's potential.

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joined Feb 19, 2016

I always come back to this every now and then because of its unique premise. There's not a lot of series that dares to say "fuck you generic harem animes".

last edited at Feb 17, 2021 12:07PM

Fundrips_bb
joined Jul 20, 2013

Can never get tired of reading this. It's like a middle finger to our "beloved" harems.

Image62
joined Feb 28, 2015

Anyone else feel really horrible for the regular high school girl who was supposed to be a new harem member but got put into a gorey tragedy-porn war story? You could make a whole series about that on its own as she tries to subvert the plot to survive (and maybe gets a gf along the way)

Holy shit I didn;'t think about that at all. A really nice catch

2SpiritCherokeePrincess
Carol%20grigg
joined Jun 20, 2020

Upon 1st reading I ended with a bad feeling, worried about the fate of the loli in the battle manga. Then I read people's comments--many of which mentioned that Misaki has changed the nature of the harem manga. That could go both ways. Now I imagine "Ruriko" being found & protected by the heroes. She might become everyone's little sister; cooking good meals, keeping their uniforms clean, & comforting those with PTSD. Then one day a fierce battle separates her from the rest. Ruri happens upon the badly wounded enemy commander, nurses him back to health, & gets him to consider a peace treaty.

last edited at Feb 18, 2021 10:23PM

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joined Oct 20, 2017

westworld vibes

Money_marie%202
joined Jan 18, 2017

Still waiting for a sequel.

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