I think the frustration is because Koyuki clearly has, or used to have, a massive crush on Konatsu.

And I think this is probably one of the biggest misunderstandings anyone has about this series. It's about loneliness, finding friends, and the massive anxiety of actually finding someone who wants to be your close friend but you don't really know for sure because it's a dumb question to ask and the possibility of being ridiculed in response is too terrifying and anyway people don't ask that sort of thing, right? You're supposed to ~know~.

I must admit I'm starting to get suspicious of Konatsu's almost morbid attachment to Koyuki. Last chapter she stated their connection was formed out of shared loneliness, but now she's arguing that even if she was to be surrounded by other people and not feel lonely, it would still amount to nothing without Koyuki there. Kinda getting harder to see it as mere friendship, so I want to see where the author takes things.

When making friends is hard, one real friend is worth a lot and you get attached. There's no guarantee that you'll find more friends after that, so instead you invest a lot into your actual friend.

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Readers: This is gay
Mangaka: Nope
Readers: HOW COME IT ISNT??!
Mangaka:I had a friendship like this at that age and we were definitely not gay
Readers: ... Mangaka san. Let us talk about flowers and bees.

or she's totally trolling us.
If this ends up gay I am buying it in physical.

When making friends is hard, one real friend is worth a lot and you get attached. There's no guarantee that you'll find more friends after that, so instead you invest a lot into your actual friend.

But I never got the impression that Konatsu had nearly as much trouble making friends and being social in general as Koyuki did. She pretty much made friends with Kaede at the same time she did with Koyuki right after entering the new school. She herself acknowledges in her imagination this chapter that even without her, she can see herself surrounded by other people. The way I see it, for Konatsu it absolutely has to be Koyuki because she built this image in her mind of the two of them being the only ones able to understand each other due to their loneliness, even though it might or might not be the case.

^ @BeanBeanKingdom
Putting your point another way, at first Konatsu was lonely and recognized a similar loneliness in Koyuki. Since then they both (to a certain extent, with each others' help) have expanded their social connections (I'm not sure that the friendship with Kaede, force of friendliness nature, is actually much of a measure of Konatsu's sociability--she really wasn't given much choice).

But there's something special about their relationship that neither one can quite bring to the forefront of their consciousness and articulate yet (even though the vast majority of sentient beings in the prefecture are completely aware of it): they gay for each other.

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Oh, I woulda sworn the mangaka was a man for this one. That was only judging by their self-insert in the omakes tho.

Anyway, it's getting pretty gay again after like a 2-volume hiatus. Let's keep this homo-mentum going

She's a girl, you can see and hear her at the start of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmdliC3n_Y She tries to keep her face covered with a sticker on the video, but she accidentally slips out of the area it covers a couple times, heh.

Also, homo-mentum is an amazing word and I'll start using it myself from now on.

I never really thought about that aspect, but I did end up feeling the same way recently when I found out Adachi and Shimamura is written by a guy. Then again, someone being able to write the opposite gender well (including same-sex sexuality) is something I find very commendable, it's a sign you're able to branch out of your natural comfort zone.

Konatsu pretty explicitly said in this chapter, being surrounded by other people is meaningless if Koyuki isn't here and the thing she's the most afraid of is them separating for good and losing their relationship. Konatsu is getting depressed and her heart hurts just from thinking that she won't be someone special to Koyuki anymore and they'll have to eventually part ways. I guess author can still troll us with friendship ending, but I read it as a pretty blatant confirmation Konatsu's feelings are far from platonic.

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Maybe that's just sexist of me tho.

Yes.

Oh, I woulda sworn the mangaka was a man for this one. That was only judging by their self-insert in the omakes tho.

Anyway, it's getting pretty gay again after like a 2-volume hiatus. Let's keep this homo-mentum going

She's a girl, you can see and hear her at the start of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmdliC3n_Y She tries to keep her face covered with a sticker on the video, but she accidentally slips out of the area it covers a couple times, heh.

Also, homo-mentum is an amazing word and I'll start using it myself from now on.

Oml, she seems super nice, thank you for sharing.

Oh, and she can straight-up be fully seen at the end of the video. Serves me right for not sticking around for the credits the first time I watched it.

She is a very brave mangaka! Most people hide their face nowadays! maybe she was thinking of her non japanese followers!

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She is, she had a few other videos with halfway-done English subs and she also tries to reply in English on twitter when she gets English tweets. Well, she google translates her way through, but it's the thought that counts.

They're so obviously gay for each other and neither you all in the comments or the mangaka herself is going to convince me otherwise. The yuri goggles are on and they ain't coming off.

as a lesbian I absolutely agree that I prefer the yuri I read to be written by women. there are straight men who can write good yuri (in fact my absolute favorite lesbian romance story was written by two men) but it's also a fact that a lot of men who write/draw yuri do so for a male target audience, and there's that other subgroup of men who write/read stories about lesbians for fetishistic reasons...
It just feels better to me to read yuri written by girls, for girls, or even better, by lesbians, for lesbians.

(and inversely, all these same situations can occur when straight women write/read yaoi, of course.)

oh geez, the cliffhanger, can't these go back to being friends even though Konatsu-chan is currently friends with Kaede-sama? Are friendship threesomes a thing? WE SHALL SEE ... THE PLOT THICKENS

Maybe that's just sexist of me tho.

Yes.

Well defend your opinion, comrade! Convert me from my sexist ways!

Why, exactly, shouldn't I be inherently wary of lesbian romance / sexuality that is written by someone, who not only can have had no real-life experience with the matter, but who also might have cause to portray it in a shallow and unrealistic light for their own gratification?

I'd never mean to imply that ALL men write lesbians like this, only that many do and that I believe I have a fair cause to be on guard.

It is fiction for starters. There are good and bad authors and it doesn't have anything to do with their sex. I think you don't even comprehend how stupid it is to ask an author to have experience about what they are about to write/create. We wouldn't have superhero, sci-fi, pirate, medieval or any other media around.

Unless that superpower is bigotry. Then by your own theory you could make a superhero flick.

For the sake of argumentation please point out those portrayals and I will answer with ten times that amount done by women.

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Maybe that's just sexist of me tho.

Yes.

Well defend your opinion, comrade! Convert me from my sexist ways!

Why, exactly, shouldn't I be inherently wary of lesbian romance / sexuality that is written by someone, who not only can have had no real-life experience with the matter, but who also might have cause to portray it in a shallow and unrealistic light for their own gratification?

holy shit, what a bigoted argument lmao

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gay

On the contrary, I see with this end of chapter a great possible progress, its stagnating too much between the two the clash will necessarily have an electroshock and I hope that at the next chapter something concrete will be discussed between them.

Electroshocks are lethal to creatures who dwell in water, I'm worried now.

Or she turns her back on the club and leaves koyuki in embarrassment with her father and we start again on a distant and dramatic conflict....Anyway koyuki took a kind of slap, how she will react she who thought she would leave her girlfriend in the best mood and continue her journey with peace of mind.Miss it!

as a lesbian I absolutely agree that I prefer the yuri I read to be written by women. there are straight men who can write good yuri (in fact my absolute favorite lesbian romance story was written by two men) but it's also a fact that a lot of men who write/draw yuri do so for a male target audience, and there's that other subgroup of men who write/read stories about lesbians for fetishistic reasons...
It just feels better to me to read yuri written by girls, for girls, or even better, by lesbians, for lesbians.

(and inversely, all these same situations can occur when straight women write/read yaoi, of course.)

Which are your two favorite yuri romance story that u mentioned?

I’m so confused but whatever they are in love

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch13#26
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch24#35

I hope not that the story will introduce the boy into the club and become a kind of confidant for konatsu and make us drag the evolution of their story too long... the rhythm is already slow enough as it is, we need a discussion between these 2 humans like any person who has the language...

I think the frustration is because Koyuki clearly has, or used to have, a massive crush on Konatsu.

And I think this is probably one of the biggest misunderstandings anyone has about this series. It's about loneliness, finding friends, and the massive anxiety of actually finding someone who wants to be your close friend but you don't really know for sure because it's a dumb question to ask and the possibility of being ridiculed in response is too terrifying and anyway people don't ask that sort of thing, right? You're supposed to ~know~

Back at the time they were just starting off as friends, there was a chapter when they want to some sort of cat island together and Koyuki got all nervous cause she saw their trip together as going on a date. You can't possibly give a heterosexual explanation for this.