Can't really decide who uselessness I hate more, Mei Aihara or Kaoru

https://twitter.com/_saburouta?lang=en why you hate mei ^^

I think i'm too stupid to understand what the point you get irritated at .

Him not cheating is just a waste of the story, even if it's too convenient for the story.

You talking about that ?

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child? I'm not saying they will not end up together somehow, but the path to this is exactly what interesting me the most.

I think i'm too stupid to understand what the point you get irritated at .

Him not cheating is just a waste of the story, even if it's too convenient for the story.

You talking about that ?

That and your no less painfully simplistic reading of what role it might have in the continuation of the story, yes.

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child? I'm not saying they will not end up together somehow, but the path to this is exactly what interesting me the most.

I mean me too i want to see that. I didn't say either it will be easy for Kaoru to done all she had to do.

That and your no less painfully simplistic reading of what role it might have in the continuation of the story, yes.

What him not cheating mean for the story ? Doesn't that mean Kaoru still have someone she can rely on even with Uta leaving ? I know Kaoru is really fond of Uta but that doesn't mean she will be alone if Reiichi really doesn't cheat. It just need for both them to talk about that (i mean even if he is cheating they need to talk about that) and for Reiichi to be a better husband and Kaoru to be more autonom.

That and your no less painfully simplistic reading of what role it might have in the continuation of the story, yes.

What him not cheating mean for the story ? Doesn't that mean Kaoru still have someone she can rely on even with Uta leaving ? I know Kaoru is really fond of Uta but that doesn't mean she will be alone if Reiichi really doesn't cheat. It just need for both them to talk about that (i mean even if he is cheating they need to talk about that) and for Reiichi to be a better husband and Kaoru to be more autonom.

Whether he's actually cheating or not is fairly irrelevant if she cannot trust in him. Lingering suspicion like that tends to gnaw at people and is probably doubly venomous on someone as emotionally dependent as Kaoru clearly is. (TBF from what we've been told of her family background - ie. out of one IIRC - she's a better Freudian Excuse for that than most.)

And in any case that isn't particularly the crux of the story in the first place. It has little direct bearing on the resolution of either the tangled relationship between the in-laws or Uta's home problems which she moved in with Reiichi and Kaoru to escape in the first place; both story threads have ample room for any amount of further developement entirely irrespective of how the whole Risako one pans out.

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In any case, the small introduction of the air of nothing risako and uta is not insignificant. The author makes her enter the scene, is she a bitch or the different comments she makes about reii will make her the one who opens her eyes to kaoru? like "he was already cheating on you at school and he continues now, open your eyes kaoru ! ".

Man I can't wait to see a catalyst like this happen.

Can't really decide who uselessness I hate more, Mei Aihara or Kaoru

At least Mei is actually into Yuzu and she isn't such a doormat like Kaoru. Pretty sure she wouldn't stay like that if she was suspected she was being cheated on.

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child? I'm not saying they will not end up together somehow, but the path to this is exactly what interesting me the most.

We will already wait several chapters to see how kaoru will digest the absence of uta and how she will manage it.
From the author will surely show us in relation to his thoughts if there is a chance that kaoru to find uta and not see her permanently move away from her will develop new feelings.....
If kaoru shows no sign of seeing her again and especially a desire that uta stay close to her then yes definitely there will be no chance of having a potential couple.
I don't forget that uta remains the closest person to kaoru, the one who knows her best, who feels when things are going well or not well at home and vice versa....when kaoru cries she wants to see uta, when kaoru wants to leave from zero she wants to start with uta before reii, when she is in the restaurant for the first year of their wedding anniversary she still thinks of uta, she makes a jewel identical to uta while with reii despite that she loves him and that it is her husband there is 100 times less complicity...
To see what kaoru prefers now.
The end of this chapter shows that kaoru in an emotional reflex means to retain and say something to uta, not only does she tremble because she is afraid and can no longer control her feelings but she collapses downright to the ground.
Kaoru can't even say goodbye to her because in Japan, a goodbye still means a kind of terminus level of emotional ties not just goodbye. She doesn't want and therefore doesn't accept this de facto state in her.
And all this is not going to happen in 2 months, eh, uta is approaching 17 years old no?, so she is not far from the university either and the majority, everything will not be done instantly, it can take a while if.....

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Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child?

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child?

maybe

Oi, this ain't a Mira oneshot. :/

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child?

maybe

Oi, this ain't a Mira oneshot. :/

I think you misspell Itou Hachi, we just need Uta with animal ears.

Like, what did you guys expected? To Kaoru drop everything and start cute kawaii (including kisses and sex) relationship with a child?

maybe

Oi, this ain't a Mira oneshot. :/

I think you misspell Itou Hachi, we just need Uta with animal ears.

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...either works, really. collab when

Can't really decide who uselessness I hate more, Mei Aihara or Kaoru

Well at least Kaoru is not bitchy so there’s that

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Entoma, that's a very messed-up and misogynistic thing to say

It’s like the opposite of misogynistic depending on how you interpret it lol

Not to put too fine a point on it but that's an attitude primarily associated with the bridal virginity preoccupation of only too many patriarchal traditional societies (the two descriptors being nigh synonymous) - though historically it actually had more to do with inheritance issues than anything, it's not like most of those selfsame societies had any particular problems with widows etc. remarrying after all.

Are you telling me that if there are 2 girls, one is having sex with some dude since forever and now just found out she is into girls and another is a lesbian and has not been with a dude, all things being equal you are gonna go for the first one? I call BS on that

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Entoma, that's a very messed-up and misogynistic thing to say

It’s like the opposite of misogynistic depending on how you interpret it lol

Not to put too fine a point on it but that's an attitude primarily associated with the bridal virginity preoccupation of only too many patriarchal traditional societies (the two descriptors being nigh synonymous) - though historically it actually had more to do with inheritance issues than anything, it's not like most of those selfsame societies had any particular problems with widows etc. remarrying after all.

Are you telling me that if there are 2 girls, one is having sex with some dude since forever and now just found out she is into girls and another is a lesbian and has not been with a dude, all things being equal you are gonna go for the first one? I call BS on that

I sincerely fail to see why that should be any kind of issue. Or, for that matter, factor.

Imagine if this story ends here. I hope there isn't a timeskip please tMnR

Yeah, this purity bullshit can stop here and now. It's not relevant to the story and honestly it's a character flaw to be so obsessed with it.

Honestly, I'd think most people wouldn't want to advertise that, but go figure.

People really be acting like Kaoru by wishing for a fairytale ending out here

People really be acting like Kaoru by wishing for a fairytale ending out here

Well if we go that way so everything is predictable uta part to his parents, kaoru separates and that's the end of the story?
Maybe it's a mistake to believe that kaoru can be forced by the force of things to evolve with his feelings, but it can also be a mistake to believe that the story is already written at the moment T a part if the author wants to finish his manga in less than 5 chapters....

You think too much that the story is realistic and that it will happen as in real life which is false in fact.
Yet the author has already used old strings like the friend who would cheat on kaoru's husband, as if by chance kaoru is right where reii and risako walk...kaoru wants to ask for the truth a reii but a simple phone call stops everything, and then the risako undertones, and the fact that it is the ex,the return of the mother 5 years later.... in short, the author is realistic on a few points but does like any yuri with drama, uses the same methods, no reason why he should not make an unexpected turnaround.

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After all it's Yuri manga, i'm almost sure becouse of some unexpected miracle Uta and Kaoru will find TRUE LOVE and idk they'll bang each other and they'll have kids or something like that. I assume.

After all it's Yuri manga, i'm almost sure becouse of some unexpected miracle Uta and Kaoru will find TRUE LOVE and idk they'll bang each other and they'll have kids or something like that. I assume.

IDK, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Kaoru only married Reiichi because she was actually subconsciously in love with Uta, but social pressures and heavily ignored feelings made her settle for the next best thing that also permitted her to keep close to Uta.

(I'm being facetious of course.)

After all it's Yuri manga, i'm almost sure becouse of some unexpected miracle Uta and Kaoru will find TRUE LOVE and idk they'll bang each other and they'll have kids or something like that. I assume.

IDK, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Kaoru only married Reiichi because she was actually subconsciously in love with Uta, but social pressures and heavily ignored feelings made her settle for the next best thing that also permitted her to keep close to Uta.

(I'm being facetious of course.)

Actually, that seemed to be the exact setup for the first chunk of the story.

And frankly, it’s the only escape hatch to a U/K endgame.

Do we know how many chapters there are left at this point?

Do we know how many chapters there are left at this point?

I think this chapter might be the last of the volume given each volume have 5 chapter so at minimumwehave 5 chapter left, which i highly doubt. Tmnr ain't gonna wrap up what's left in one volume. I think we have maybe 3 volumes left so 15 chapters.