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arandommangareader
joined Nov 10, 2018

This comment section is actually better than the author's works, keep it up guys! Lmao

Don't%20forget%20the%20best%20girl
joined Jul 22, 2018

It's sad to see people hating her. Naoko is a great mangaka + I'm big fan of Netorare so I'm very satisfied. She's not a "shitty mangaka" because you don't like her style, ah come on guys :'(

joined Sep 6, 2018

5th place, and I mean dead last in quality in the doujin. I wouldn't comment on this one-shot if it was published by itself, but when lumped together with other works by better artists, this is lackluster work.

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joined Oct 15, 2014

Hahaha it could be possible that this mangaka could do a good Yuri manga? Really? It could be possible? ALMOST ALL HER STORIES ARE BISEXUAL AS F#VK!!!! AND TOXIC AND SHIT!!!!
If she love so much the men, then do a het shoujo manga xd (i hate this author with my soul, since NTR, all her stories, except the fake marriage, are bad and crap)

Same...ugh what a way to start the day.......

52722-l
joined Nov 8, 2017

oh wow

Riamu
joined Aug 28, 2018

Kodama Naoko turn your location on I just want to talk

Heavy%20cruiser%20160
joined Apr 27, 2013

Eh, "woman in an unhappy marriage has a fling with a girl that likes her" isn't really that bad. I was expecting something much more dysfunctional

Ds6osxcvsaabln5
joined Dec 13, 2017

Like it or not, we all have to agree that Kodama Naoko's mangas are toxic af. She ALWAYS has to portray bisexual characters as cheaters for some reason. I feel like half of the hate towards bi people in this website is due to her.

Singeraigenerated
joined Feb 11, 2018

Eh, "woman in an unhappy marriage has a fling with a girl that likes her" isn't really that bad. I was expecting something much more dysfunctional

Well, other stories had group punishment rape and exhibitionist sex, so maybe it was good to have something bit more mellow like cheating to go with that stuff. :)

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153e8eef-2f5c-4baf-8d8d-9a203e22fe74
joined Feb 10, 2019

It's sad to see people hating her. Naoko is a great mangaka + I'm big fan of Netorare so I'm very satisfied. She's not a "shitty mangaka" because you don't like her style, ah come on guys :'(

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

Obviously all bisexual women are cheaters.

Right? Right?

Oh wait, that's just bisexual women in Kodama Naoko universe. My b guys

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joined Apr 9, 2014

Kodama Naoko never fails to disappoint me. I like her art style so I try to give her works a shot, but it’s almost never worth it. In Netsuzou Trap she romanticized sexual abuse and portrayed lesbian relationships as not “real” because it was all just training until the characters got a boyfriend. In “A World Without Freedom” she romanticized rape. In all of her works she portrays bisexual women as cheaters, and that just gives more ammo to the biphobes in the fandom. ISTG, someone must have hurt her pretty bad in the past for her to become unable to write healthy relationships or portray lesbian/bisexual characters properly. 90% of her works are toxic. I knew what I was getting into when I decided to read this one, but it was just to confirm that yes, she’s still the same shitty writer from before.

Omochikaeri_thumb
joined Nov 2, 2013

Like it or not, we all have to agree that Kodama Naoko's mangas are toxic af. She ALWAYS has to portray bisexual characters as cheaters for some reason. I feel like half of the hate towards bi people in this website is due to her.

I was just thinking this. I feel like the bisexual tag was created just for this. Its more of a trigger warning for people on this site than anything. Because almost always I see bisexuals portrayed negatively. Especially in Kodama works they’re all so scummy and manipulative.

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joined Sep 16, 2017

Cheating = Kodama Naoko

joined Jul 24, 2018

I can't tell if this comment section is sad or funny. The tags were right there, the author is pretty well-known for this stuff, why are you even still here? I'm getting the feeling I'm being trolled here, what with the horrendous grammar. You don't like it, fine, you don't have to read it; no need to blast the author for writing what she likes. I swear, some of you are even more toxic than the characters Kodama Naoko likes to write.

joined Jun 19, 2018

Kodama-sama once again proves that she is the single best yuri mangaka!

For all those who are mad, you're not supposed to be mad at her "manipulative" characters, you're supposed to be manipulated by them.

The bi women in her works aren't meant to be some depraved whores lying and cheating for the sake of it, they find themselves in love and then manipulate/cheat to get the person who they love. The fact that all of her bi characters have some association of infidelity or impurity isn't cause she hates bi people or something, it's because there's no reason for her to make some woman bi unless there is at least a threat of her being with a guy. Kodama's works are meant to give a sense of tortured longing, usually longing mixed with guilt, and infidelity is one of the things she uses to this effect.

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joined Oct 15, 2016

Cheating = Kodama Naoko

Lets be fair here, its actually Bisexual + Cheating = Kodama Naoko

But in all seriousness, expecting anything different from her at this point is just a pointless exercise. Either you like her style or you don't. I used to be like a lot of people in here, trying to give her a chance to "surprise" me with something different, but i gave up when i saw that she wasn't gonna change, this was her style. Those other stories where she didn't draw toxic relationships or assholes are anomalies. Better try to enjoy her in a way where you're wondering if she could make a more dislikeable character than her last one, or just drop her stuff entirely. Its easier that way.

Pity
joined Jan 11, 2014

The author said it herself that she has a thing for morally depraved women. It's a fetish in a sense and preferences as well.
I for once enjoy all of her morally fucked stories. I also agree with the others above. This is Kodama here y'all know it ain't gonna be a fluffy ride and it's not right to call her a horrible mangaka because of her preferences.

Chinatsu%202
joined Jan 27, 2016

Oh look Kodama Naoko is here to peddle gross stereotypes about bi women. Again.

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joined Jul 30, 2015

Oh Kodama.. Just why?

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joined Jan 24, 2018

Oh Kodama, you make naughty feel so good ༼☯﹏☯༽

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joined Sep 14, 2014

What a stunning thread

Ds6osxcvsaabln5
joined Dec 13, 2017

Well I don't hate Kodama like some people here seem to do. I enjoy her art and sex scenes. I don't care about the story as I know it's going to be trash anyway(doesn't mean she's a bad mangaka).

All I ask is why does she have to, as somebody above pointed out, encourage disgusting stereotypes about bi women? Can't she portray them as kind, loving people just ONCE? And please don't call it "just a fetish" or whatever. It might be a fetish to her, but all it does is to promote hate towards bisexual people. And people here are biphobic as hell as it is.

joined Mar 5, 2016

Well I don't hate Kodama like some people here seem to do. I enjoy her art and sex scenes. I don't care about the story as I know it's going to be trash anyway(doesn't mean she's a bad mangaka).

All I ask is why does she have to, as somebody above pointed out, encourage disgusting stereotypes about bi women? Can't she portray them as kind, loving people just ONCE? And please don't call it "just a fetish" or whatever. It might be a fetish to her, but all it does is to promote hate towards bisexual people. And people here are biphobic as hell as it is.

i don't know about "just a fetish" but that immoral bisexual women are a kink for her does seem to be why she draws so many comics about them. i understand wanting something more wholesome but i think you're barking up the wrong tree if you're seriously asking a porn artist to stop drawing porn comics about the thing they find sexiest and most fascinating in all the world. it'd be a lot more productive if you instead found someone else who drew the thing you wanted to see.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

This was delicious as sin, thank you, Kodama~ I was especially delighted by the school grill's priorities, some heavy philosophical stuff mentioned in passing --> "What does that mean...?" --> "Besides that, Shiori-san's boobs are huge... They're so pretty..."

As to all the hate in this thread...

It was blindingly obvious for a long time what Kodama's preferences are.

"I wanted her to be even more garbage."
"...my personal elements of moe."
"Pretty girl with long, wavy hair. / Yandere. / Big tits."
"Therefore, love-hate, soap opera drama...!"
"Be my slave." "Here, I'll r*pe you."
"I just love characters like Ririko, who are cute but have a naturally bad personality."

She can write light fluff, she just does not want to. The number of people that, time and time again, wander into her works somehow expecting Kodama to not be Kodama never ceases to amaze me. She likes soap opera (which is to say, crappy dorama), she likes hot grills with bad personalities, she likes cheating. If that is not your cup of tea, like, do not read her works, simple as that. Bonus points for each doujin being tagged with all the necessary tags. You have only your own idiocy to blame, dear haters.

And lmao at all the "objective truth" and "everyone hates her" crap, there is obviously an audience that appreciates her works, as demonstrated in this very thread, and, you know, by the fact she still produces such content after all these years. Granted, she caters to specific tastes, but those tastes do exist. Deal with it.

As for her spreading bi-hatred, here is the thing. On the surface, you seem to have a point. I am one of those people that get peeved at the usual portrayal of bi people in gay manga, as perpetual cheaters who usually leave their partner for the opposite sex. As a bi person myself, it does annoy me to no ends at times. But, and here is the point, I never got that feeling with Kodama's works. It could be because she deliberately makes her characters as garbage as possible, maybe it is because of something else, but I never got the "she is doing the bi people a disservice" feeling. Her works are exactly what she wants them to be, soap opera. Honestly, do you watch soap opera for its accurate and deep social commentary?

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