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Thiaguinho-sama
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Man thats why I love Dynasty, comes for yuri, stay for the pedo talk, penis talk, or whatever people is talking about in a thread.

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Nonorisa
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I would even add that, this position is specific wouldn't actually feel that good because the weight is so distributed that unless you put enough pressure down, it will likely just feel like a sloppy handjob and you would need to position yourself perfectly to pull it off and always make sure you're aligned.
It's one of those things that look good in fiction but not so much in real life. Like boobjobs.
The truth is, penises just aren't that sensitive as fiction makes them out to be, and rubbing your body across one, unless this person has that type of fetish in specific or you really manage to move properly, will likely not give a whole lot of pleasure to your partner. I could do the same movement with my hand and it won't feel good at all.
But at this point we're just diving into how fictional porn is better than real life sex so I'll stop here.
Penis talk is always fun.

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Let's talk more about dicks so Shima can get better with dick sexfx

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Man finally Ive been waiting for someone to translate this story!

Dark_Tzitzimine
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Funny, that's one thing I tend to dislike about them. The lack of context increases my perception that most of them are basically a way to insert het sex into a lesbian story without including any actual guys (because no homo for the male reader, natch).

Plus, if it's a talented artist or a good story (like this one or the KonaKaga ones Celtrance did), I want the reasoning for why they made such a radical change to the character to be part of the narrative. It's like you're missing part of the storytelling process, which is something I notice when it's otherwise a good story.

The romantic side of this one and the fact that there's a lot less emphasis on dick than a lot of futa stuff helps a lot, though.

I have to say that is a weird aspect to get bothered by. I mean, most of these stories are doujin so the author either tells the story they wanted to tell or they explain the details of their mind canon.

And you're oversimplyfing things by assuming futa is a way to introduce het into a lesbian setting for the guys' sake. The average male internet dweller is repulsed by futa since they actually see it as gay content. Futa is just another fetish but if you wanna analyze the implications of it, most people find it endearing because they want to be dominated by women and the penis is the symbol of dominance by excelence.

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I just think it's cute and gently. Not focus too much on sex ( especially when it comes to Futa ).
So even for someone who not into futa like me, I still enjoy it though.

joined Apr 25, 2015

I'll never understand peoples' fascination with Futa... the whole point of yuri is that both of them have vaginas. If I want to see a dick action, I'll check yaoi or hetero.

Please stop adding dicks to characters that are not meant to have them. Besides why is it always girls with dicks? Where are guys with vaginas? I am yet to find one, not that either of them interests me. Honestly, what's the point of saying you like yuri when you are still turning one of them into a half male when neither of characters is meant to be one?

This was a nice read but would've been 100 times better without futa.

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Nonorisa
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I'll never understand peoples' fascination with Futa... the whole point of yuri is that both of them have vaginas. If I want to see a dick action, I'll check yaoi or hetero.

Please stop adding dicks to characters that are not meant to have them. Besides why is it always girls with dicks? Where are guys with vaginas? I am yet to find one, not that either of them interests me. Honestly, what's the point of saying you like yuri when you are still turning one of them into a half male when neither of characters is meant to be one?

This was a nice read but would've been 100 times better without futa.

Most of futa is meant to be a "best of both worlds" type of deal. The intent is to excuse a penis to be there, but it's not like it doesn't provide some interesting sexual play in a fantasy setting when you have two functional genitals. And generally speaking there are usually more girls with penises because it's just what people prefer to see.
It's why there are straight guys who like reading trap porn but don't like straight up yaoi porn, because cute girls are cute, dicks or not.
Also why can't one like yuri and futa? Do one's tastes have to be mutually exclusive?
You're saying "the whole point of yuri is that both of them have vaginas" but does Love Live have to be strictly yuri? If this is a work of fantasy, what's wrong with altering the story to your tastes? Reversing genders or turning something into futa is not inherently bad, it's just a different take on it for a different audience and there are more audiences besides yuri fans. Because trust me, I also know people who hate those who turn Love Live into yuri.
I'm not saying you have to like futa, but it sounds like your anger is a bit misplaced just because you're too fixated on two characters keeping their canon gender. All of these doujins, yuri or not, are fanmade and non canon, it's not really fair to oppress an artist who likes to do futa while praising the artists who do yuri because they're both doing what they like with the story and providing their audiences with something they enjoy while disregarding the original material (yeah I know Love Live is full of undertones, but we all know they're not explicitly lesbians at any point in the show).

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It simply is a matter of preference. Futanari isn't your cup of tea? Don't read it. You can express your dislike for it but you can't accuse people of not being into yuri just because they like futanari as well.

And guys with vaginas, pfft u mean girls with flat boobs right?

Edit: Btw, to the one who posted a picture of a broken penis, penises have no bones. That made a giggle a bit.

last edited at Jun 21, 2015 9:50AM

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Funny, that's one thing I tend to dislike about them. The lack of context increases my perception that most of them are basically a way to insert het sex into a lesbian story without including any actual guys (because no homo for the male reader, natch).

Plus, if it's a talented artist or a good story (like this one or the KonaKaga ones Celtrance did), I want the reasoning for why they made such a radical change to the character to be part of the narrative. It's like you're missing part of the storytelling process, which is something I notice when it's otherwise a good story.

The romantic side of this one and the fact that there's a lot less emphasis on dick than a lot of futa stuff helps a lot, though.

I have to say that is a weird aspect to get bothered by. I mean, most of these stories are doujin so the author either tells the story they wanted to tell or they explain the details of their mind canon.

Exactly, the author has a story they want to tell. My problem is they're leaving a big, important part of the story out, which affects my enjoyment.

And you're oversimplyfing things by assuming futa is a way to introduce het into a lesbian setting for the guys' sake.

Most != all

The average male internet dweller is repulsed by futa since they actually see it as gay content.

The primary market for "shemale" porn is straight dudes.

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Nonorisa
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Edit: Btw, to the one who posted a picture of a broken penis, penises have no bones. That made a giggle a bit.

Penile fracture is a real thing that can happen though :P
Though not in the way that picture is showcasing it lol.

last edited at Jun 21, 2015 10:10AM

Ymir-and-christa-lenz-historia-reiss-shingeki-no-kyojin-kittyluv57-38197762-736-429
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Then, we can conclude that vaginas are more awesome cause they don't fracture and they don't tell people you're horny. Vaginas rule!

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Nonorisa
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Then, we can conclude that vaginas are more awesome cause they don't fracture and they don't tell people you're horny. Vaginas rule!

Vaginal tissue can get ripped though. (i.e don't finger someone if you're not confident in your abilities)
But I agree, getting boners in public sucks a lot, vaginas are more convinient for subtlety.

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You're saying "the whole point of yuri is that both of them have vaginas" but does Love Live have to be strictly yuri? If this is a work of fantasy, what's wrong with altering the story to your tastes? Reversing genders or turning something into futa is not inherently bad, it's just a different take on it for a different audience and there are more audiences besides yuri fans. Because trust me, I also know people who hate those who turn Love Live into yuri.

Looking at it on some grand "moral" scale, futa feels like it's making an effort to "normalize" a queer relationship by adding a penis. Much like gender-bending half of a gay couple is attempting to erase the potential gays (intention or no). If you're going to argue against making Love Live yuri but not futa/gender-bend/het, I can only assume you're being homophobic (or just don't want your waifu to be taken away). Not calling you homophobic of course, Nosebleed-senpai.
And surely there's nothing to be upset about if you treat everything with relativism. But that's hardly a philosophy for all, and there are certainly valid reasons to find certain content despicable (not even ruling out yuri here, either). I'm never particularly interested in arguing, but I did want to throw in a few cents.

I dislike futa almost all the time, but I liked this. I thought it was sweet, I thought it was subtle, and it was definitely my OTP. Many thanks to the wonderful people that worked on it! and special thanks for the sneak-peeks :D

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Nonorisa
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but my key point was that every author should have the creative freedom to turn the characters into whatever they want to create and that, in Love Live's case, yuri isn't the only way, even if you personally think it's the best way, and that's the beauty of fanmade works, that's why I find it kind of unfair to despise authors who do futa or genderbender instead of most people's favorite, yuri.

Putting aside whether or not it's just for the sake of penis or for the sake of self intersting the reader into some het fantasy or even if it's poorly written porn, the fact still stands, it's not "more wrong" to do one over the other as at the end of the day none of them are canon works and as such should never be bound by imaginary rules such as "Love Live is only yuri".

Don't like futa? That's perfectly fine. Even I prefer yuri Love Live over futa Love Live. (I wasn't arguing against it btw, just mentioning I know a couple people who dislike the yuri aspect of the Love Live fandom as much as some people here seem to despise futa just because their preferences don't align).
But saying the author is doing something bad by drawing a futa comic really doesn't sit well with me.

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I'm all up for AUs and changes but as long as there is valid reason that explains the change. Gender bend? Fine, alternative universe. If Honoka was actual male here (gender bend) I wouldn't have a problem here even if it's not my thing either. Not into gender bend thing.

However, I hate unreasonable changes like for example Honoka being turned into a miserable asshole or other personality changes that are not backed uped by anything. You are erasing them and being lazy because you can't think of your own character looks. That's not being creative.

If I am told that Honoka had rough childhood, grew up in orphanage and etc, then yes I accept this change because it is a what if setting. If there is no back story or explanation, that's laziness.

Futa is laziness. Remove Futa warning tag and you get "Hey I'm your fave Honka but I have a surprise... I have dick!" Like what did I miss?

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It's porn tho

Dark_Tzitzimine
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I'm all up for AUs and changes but as long as there is valid reason that explains the change. Gender bend? Fine, alternative universe. If Honoka was actual male here (gender bend) I wouldn't have a problem here even if it's not my thing either. Not into gender bend thing.

However, I hate unreasonable changes like for example Honoka being turned into a miserable asshole or other personality changes that are not backed uped by anything. You are erasing them and being lazy because you can't think of your own character looks. That's not being creative.

If I am told that Honoka had rough childhood, grew up in orphanage and etc, then yes I accept this change because it is a what if setting. If there is no back story or explanation, that's laziness.

Futa is laziness. Remove Futa warning tag and you get "Hey I'm your fave Honka but I have a surprise... I have dick!" Like what did I miss?

Really guys?

Guess I missed all the posts complaining about lack of explanation on these doujins

I mean, if you don't like futa that's fine but saying Futa is bad due the lack of explanations for the changes while not raising the same complaints on other stories that also change the setting with no explanation doesn't seem a valid complaint.

last edited at Jun 21, 2015 1:03PM

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Finally a futa story that doesn't use EXTREMELY vulgar language and actually makes it seem like both parties are enjoying it equally. Most futa stories end up all hetero looking :/ I do not like that, I want to see both the girls enjoy themselves both with AND without the penis involved like this one. Maki had two orgasms without it being inserted, she was definitely taken care of.

I don't exactly like Honoka and Maki as a ship because I do not feel it has enough supplies to take off on a long voyage. However for some reason it completely worked in this story.

As a fan of futa and of love live, I can honestly say that this was just wonderful <3 read it at least 5 times.

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joined Sep 22, 2013

Unexpectedly it wasn't as bad as I thought, in fact I liked it! It's like if Honoka, despite the penis, doesn't lose her femininity. Thanks to this kind of doujinshis (I mean the ones made in a good and decent way) I'm starting to appreciate the futanari tag.

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that was so cute ;v;

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Finally a futa story that doesn't use EXTREMELY vulgar language and actually makes it seem like both parties are enjoying it equally. Most futa stories end up all hetero looking :/ I do not like that, I want to see both the girls enjoy themselves both with AND without the penis involved like this one. Maki had two orgasms without it being inserted, she was definitely taken care of.

Wow, some strong implyings over here. Hetero looking? Implying that an hetero sexual relationship only the man is enjoying himself, this is what I'm reading here. Without the penis involved? Why can't the person with said penis not use it like the "tool" it's meant to be?

Why does it matter how her orgasms were achived? Are we in the business of judging how "right" an orgasm is depending on our own fetishes/kinks? Let these characters enjoy the flesh business however they want, they are real characters!

Okay that last bit I could not help but smile while writing it

I just want everyone to know that penises can be lonely and being so hateful towards them is NOT COOL.

Edit: Credit page is funneh, did you wing it or did you suffer through het porn to see their sfx?

last edited at Jun 21, 2015 9:30PM

joined Mar 18, 2015

I LOVE Futanari! I Love Futanari! Lastima que apenas publican este genero...

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joined Feb 18, 2013

Oh god, I cracked the hell up at the credit page and Shimapanda's suffering at the metaphorical hands of comics with dicks.

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