Think of how much better this manga would be if Wakaba ended up with someone who -wasn't- a toxic shithead.

Look, I don't read toxic yuri for a lack of toxicity.

Think of how much better this manga would be if Wakaba ended up with someone who -wasn't- a toxic shithead.

But nahhh, look at the title. We already can guess the ending just by looking at the title.

I guess it's going with the whole "shittiest person is supposedly hurting the most so the wronged person has to be a doormat and make things right first" route.

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Look, I don't read toxic yuri for a lack of toxicity.

This. Matsuri is the boring option.

rainbow8 posted:

Look, I don't read toxic yuri for a lack of toxicity.

Matsuri deserves a Sal Jiang ending

It feels like this manga just spun around in circles until the author randomly decided it was time to end it.

Look, I don't read toxic yuri for a lack of toxicity.

This. Matsuri is the boring option.

I think toxic yuri can be interesting, even fun sometimes, but this series crossed the line into being being mean spirited. Which I'm not a fan of.

I guess it's going with the whole "shittiest person is supposedly hurting the most so the wronged person has to be a doormat and make things right first" route.

I mean, why should the het ladies get all the fun?

I find everyone's feelings perfectly valid as a preference. I can't help wondering what you all were doing this whole time while Komaki has been telling Wakaba she's stupid and gross while attempting to coerce her into sexual situations.

In some ways this series is very tame, but it's been all in on shaming Wakaba and making her cry from the beginning. It's a tailor made series for people with very specific preferences.

wow, this manga would be so much better without komaki

Pasta would be much better without the sauce.

Since no one can explain how they made it through almost 3 complete volumes while not liking Komaki or the manga's premise, I'm going to choose to believe you all are being forced to read this by a hot girl who wants to watch you suffer through reading comics you dislike.

Huh. Well, that’s possibly the most boring route this story could take.

I find everyone's feelings perfectly valid as a preference. I can't help wondering what you all were doing this whole time while Komaki has been telling Wakaba she's stupid and gross while attempting to coerce her into sexual situations.

In some ways this series is very tame, but it's been all in on shaming Wakaba and making her cry from the beginning. It's a tailor made series for people with very specific preferences.

I was kinda hoping that Komaki would have the tables turned on her at some point and break down presented with the possibility of actually losing Wakaba for good. I enjoyed the bullying, pining, and toxicity, but I did want Wakaba to actually get a win and force Komaki to act in order to progress to a proper romantic relationship, rather than having her just roll over and accede to Komaki’s BS. For all I know, that might still happen, and Wakaba might pull off some shenanigans in order to force Komaki into confessing first, but this chapter does not make me feel confident.

pfft, no. Pick Matsuri.
Passive-aggressive people are the worst, she'll never know how to make Komaki happy, and any little thing she does is going to cause a fight.

@RandomGuy

I was kinda hoping that Komaki would have the tables turned on her at some point and break down presented with the possibility of actually losing Wakaba for good. I enjoyed the bullying, pining, and toxicity, but I did want Wakaba to actually get a win and force Komaki to act in order to progress to a proper romantic relationship, rather than having her just roll over and accede to Komaki’s BS. For all I know, that might still happen, and Wakaba might pull off some shenanigans in order to force Komaki into confessing first, but this chapter does not make me feel confident.

That makes sense, thank you for explaining.

With anyone hoping for a post relationship story, I can see that. It's the type of story that will be over once they establish their relationship in a healthy way, but we don't know that at the start. I however thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be no "turning of the tables." From the beginning this was Wakaba trying to save Komaki, who she thinks has fallen into a destructive way of thinking.

In the chapter 1 flashback with Komaki we get: "Say, Wakaba, I'm a human being, right? When they talk about me, they say I'm "perfect and can do anything," but as a result, I get yelled at and disliked. I'm really a human being, right?"

Wakaba wants to free her from this burden, which is the real reason she's kept competing with Komaki.

As she says: "I want to knock Komaki down from the pedestal she looks down on me from, so that we stand on the same ground. I want to prove she's not prove she's not some perfect being. That's why... [Out loud] Umezono, I'll beat you. I'm sure of it."

Wakaba never wanted to establish dominance, make Komaki work for her approval, or anything like that.

My guess for the ending is that Wakaba finally wins a bet, which connects with and resolves that narrative thread. Then, instead of getting Komaki to cut contact with her, she'll tell Komaki that they're getting married or whatever. Komaki wouldn't be able to keep up her act of being perfect and shaming Wakaba for being inferior, it would help Komaki's self image that she's not some type of freak or disgusting mix of perfect flavors (soda chapter) that's inherently unlovable no matter what she does, and Komaki would have to talk honestly once the bet framework is out of the way. Who confesses first will matter less at that point, as they'll finally be able to have a conversation.

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I would enjoy this more if it were overtly a comedy and took itself less seriously. It would basically be a different manga, but I would love it if they made the competition over small things extra ridiculous, and made them clearly into each other while still mutually failing to realize that their competition is increasingly just an excuse to be gay. You could make Komaki deadpan and Wakaba tsukkomi.

Late but The Girl Who Never Wins is literally this lol.

the commenters here are so lame ffs

This chapter gave me "Wrap it up" vibes, lol.

the commenters here are so lame ffs

like did some folks collectively ignore the toxic part of the toxic yuri?

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I'm not in a rush as far as this goes, but I will say that it would be really weird if Komaki doesn't apologize to Wakaba before the story is over.