ForumTae-chan and Jimiko-san discussion

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joined Jan 22, 2015

Remember when there used to be these character, what were they called... oh yeah, Tae and Jimiko? Haha.

I feel like I should know these characters, but since I haven't seen them in something like 8 chapters they clearly must not be important.

Somehow this hentai is worse than Game of Thrones. Which is kinda amazing, cause I really don't like Game of Thrones.

Adashima
joined Sep 3, 2018

Ok so yes, Tae and Jimiko were in fact canonically a contagious disease, I don't mind the story just being pure sex and poly stuff, it is what it is, but holy shit was this chapter aggravating. What was this first love stuff? I know Kurogane Ken is pretty liberal with their work and they favour poly stuff, but with Kuyou literally having said the other girl to stop fucking her cause "love", and now we get this. It's like the artist forgot what they wrote two chapters ago or they just never cared for what they wrote, which would be fine cause it's a hentai "lol story doesn't matter on a hentai" but come one, this one was just way too stupid even for itself.

m_nguyen_chau
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joined Oct 27, 2011

This is pure bliss for a 'polygamist' like me o(^^o)(o^^o)(o^^o)(o^^)o

It's probably heading down the poly route, but let's just admit that at this point in the story, it's just a bunch of sex fiends cheating on each other. I mean, characters profess their undying love to their long sought after partners, wanting them to be their one and only but then goes on to sleep with previous partners (or with just anyone in proximity) behind their lovers' backs. They'll maybe get around to all agree it's okay cause they all love each other, go on to have an orgy, then sorta all live together screwing like bunnies every day though.

I think monogamy and polygamy share a dichotomy side that one shapes another. Love is just a word, the things that you share with differents persons are never the same. I think in this chapter, the word "first love" might trigger people. But well, "like a virgin", everytime i fall in love, i feel that's my "first love", or sometimes even my "first true love". So i have a lot of "first true love", but it doesnt make me love my current gf/lover less. I do love the term orgy on your critic tho..(since an org were originally a fallen elf, so even a pure elf can screw up really bad). I mean it's just a kind of life style you know, a very dionysian one indeed.

suspiciousreader
joined Jun 6, 2020

The dialog in this manga's surreal.

joined Jul 31, 2013

Chapter is here and so i am. Like i said i have some on my mind about how the story is going. Like i said just before, it will be ok to think that plot don't matter in hentai but not when Kurogane is trying to make one.

What do you mean first love ? Didn't they see each other for the first time at the hotel ? Also didn't was the one and only time they fuck each other ? What is that first love bullshit now ? Didn't Kuyou even made Ito stop having sex with her and mom because she wanted to be her mom exclusive lover ? Which that being said is a fucking lie from both side. Mommy is horny as fuck and fuck both Takako (???? a bit out of nowhere) and Rise and also Ito for what the text told. Kuyou also being an hyphocrit because she said still do it with Rise. Why bring a forced drama/first love bullshit when the 4 persons include in this mess seem to already fuck each other ? Just make an orgy like last time and make them going together like an harem/ployamory thing , why trying so hard to make a plot that doesn't work ?

Get over it dude

joined Dec 30, 2018

Chapter is here and so i am. Like i said i have some on my mind about how the story is going. Like i said just before, it will be ok to think that plot don't matter in hentai but not when Kurogane is trying to make one.

What do you mean first love ? Didn't they see each other for the first time at the hotel ? Also didn't was the one and only time they fuck each other ? What is that first love bullshit now ? Didn't Kuyou even made Ito stop having sex with her and mom because she wanted to be her mom exclusive lover ? Which that being said is a fucking lie from both side. Mommy is horny as fuck and fuck both Takako (???? a bit out of nowhere) and Rise and also Ito for what the text told. Kuyou also being an hyphocrit because she said still do it with Rise. Why bring a forced drama/first love bullshit when the 4 persons include in this mess seem to already fuck each other ? Just make an orgy like last time and make them going together like an harem/ployamory thing , why trying so hard to make a plot that doesn't work ?

Cmon dude
This is just a porn manga and this whole plot is just a fetish for the author
Have you not read any of his/her other work?
Kurogane manga always has a wierd feel to it and this one is not an exception

last edited at Jun 7, 2020 2:32AM

Image
joined Jun 21, 2018

Personally I’d like Ito and Manami to get back together. If they’re not gonna stick with the established pairings then neither am I!

last edited at Jun 7, 2020 3:37AM

m_nguyen_chau
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joined Oct 27, 2011

Cmon dude
This is just a porn manga and this whole plot is just a fetish for the author
Have you not read any of his/her other work?
Kurogane manga always has a wierd feel to it and this one is not an exception

Yes yes yes and yes!!! That 'weird feel' fetish is exactly the unique trait of Kurogane manga.

cerocincocero
joined May 11, 2018

Pathetic, hentai or not.

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

Chapter is here and so i am. Like i said i have some on my mind about how the story is going. Like i said just before, it will be ok to think that plot don't matter in hentai but not when Kurogane is trying to make one.

What do you mean first love ? Didn't they see each other for the first time at the hotel ? Also didn't was the one and only time they fuck each other ? What is that first love bullshit now ? Didn't Kuyou even made Ito stop having sex with her and mom because she wanted to be her mom exclusive lover ? Which that being said is a fucking lie from both side. Mommy is horny as fuck and fuck both Takako (???? a bit out of nowhere) and Rise and also Ito for what the text told. Kuyou also being an hyphocrit because she said still do it with Rise. Why bring a forced drama/first love bullshit when the 4 persons include in this mess seem to already fuck each other ? Just make an orgy like last time and make them going together like an harem/ployamory thing , why trying so hard to make a plot that doesn't work ?

Cmon dude
This is just a porn manga and this whole plot is just a fetish for the author
Have you not read any of his/her other work?
Kurogane manga always has a wierd feel to it and this one is not an exception

That might be the strangest excuse i ever heard for justifying a bad writing. It's a "fetish" ? What kind of person have a fetish of writing incoherent plot in a hentai ? It will be easier to admit that the plot is bad and Kurogane has fail wiriting this one instead of wierd justification like that. Mira has already shown that you can make porn and have a decent story so NO, just because it's a porn doesn't mean neceserally that the plot should be bad.
I've read District 4 and beside the unnecessary blackmail at the end, the story and writing was good. I wouldn't mind the plot if Kurogane wasn't trying to make it work. "But muh porn" It's hard to enjoy the porn when Kurogane shove his bad writing in it.
Like i said Kuyou making Ito quit having sex with her and her mom but still fuck around with Rise and Takako being mad that RIse fuck around with Manami, not to mention Rise who fuck around with Manami and Kuyou. It's like the chapters where Ito make Kuyou confess and where Kuyou ask Ito to stop having sex doesn't happen. Same for the threesome, i thought it was for Rise to understand but nope. Hell, it's even mention that Ito still come see Minami once a week. Kurogane should trying to make the plot and just have the girls enjoying together their relation as an harem/open relation where they just fuck other around and sometimes having orgy/theesomes, it's better than still having it doing behind each other back when they clearly already know that their respective partner is fucking around. The irony in this, it's that the two falling in love in the chapter have just fuck each other once in a threesome.

last edited at Jun 7, 2020 7:48AM

Chimekolover
joined Feb 1, 2013

Chapter is here and so i am. Like i said i have some on my mind about how the story is going. Like i said just before, it will be ok to think that plot don't matter in hentai but not when Kurogane is trying to make one.

What do you mean first love ? Didn't they see each other for the first time at the hotel ? Also didn't was the one and only time they fuck each other ? What is that first love bullshit now ? Didn't Kuyou even made Ito stop having sex with her and mom because she wanted to be her mom exclusive lover ? Which that being said is a fucking lie from both side. Mommy is horny as fuck and fuck both Takako (???? a bit out of nowhere) and Rise and also Ito for what the text told. Kuyou also being an hyphocrit because she said still do it with Rise. Why bring a forced drama/first love bullshit when the 4 persons include in this mess seem to already fuck each other ? Just make an orgy like last time and make them going together like an harem/ployamory thing , why trying so hard to make a plot that doesn't work ?

Cmon dude
This is just a porn manga and this whole plot is just a fetish for the author
Have you not read any of his/her other work?
Kurogane manga always has a wierd feel to it and this one is not an exception

That might be the strangest excuse i ever heard for justifying a bad writing. It's a "fetish" ? What kind of person have a fetish of writing incoherent plot in a hentai ? It will be easier to admit that the plot is bad and Kurogane has fail wiriting this one instead of wierd justification like that. Mira has already shown that you can make porn and have a decent story so NO, just because it's a porn doesn't mean neceserally that the plot should be bad.
I've read District 4 and beside the unnecessary blackmail at the end, the story and writing was good. I wouldn't mind the plot if Kurogane wasn't trying to make it work. "But muh porn" It's hard to enjoy the porn when Kurogane shove his bad writing in it.
Like i said Kuyou making Ito quit having sex with her and her mom but still fuck around with Rise and Takako being mad that RIse fuck around with Manami, not to mention Rise who fuck around with Manami and Kuyou. It's like the chapters where Ito make Kuyou confess and where Kuyou ask Ito to stop having sex doesn't happen. Same for the threesome, i thought it was for Rise to understand but nope. Hell, it's even mention that Ito still come see Minami once a week. Kurogane should trying to make the plot and just have the girls enjoying together their relation as an harem/open relation where they just fuck other around and sometimes having orgy/theesomes, it's better than still having it doing behind each other back when they clearly already know that their respective partner is fucking around. The irony in this, it's that the two falling in love in the chapter have just fuck each other once in a threesome.

I agree with the sentiment that people need to just stop expecting so much from hentai manga. yeah there are hentai anime and manga that can tell ok or decent or even good stories. Mira being a good example from you. But a lot of other hentai isnt meant to be like that its just crazy over the top sex. And in that department this manga is delivering. If this is bothering you so much why bother reading it? Just shut your brain off, sit back and enjoy the show.

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

Not when Kurogane is putting plot in it and contradict himself over the chapter. The Tae/Jimiko was actually fine and even when it swap to Takako/RIse it was fine but as soon as we swap to Rise/Kuyou and all, it has goes downhill.

Just shut your brain off, sit back and enjoy the show.

Sorry but that not how it work for me.

If this is bothering you so much why bother reading it?

Cause i have hope that Kurogane stop the unnecessary plot and drama when the solution is obvious to everyone who've read more than 2 or 3 for this arc. Said arc who by the way has gone too long for me now, the characters from who the manga haven't been seen since Ch.5 and we are at Ch.18, it feel like Tae and Jimiko where just here to introduce Takako and start the story.

last edited at Jun 7, 2020 9:43AM

Popcorn
joined Jun 5, 2015

The issue isn't that it has crazy over the top sex stuff in it. The issue is that it started as a pretty tame smut with likeable characters in relationship. Sure the story wasn't too complex or anything, but it still made sense. But the further it went on, the more new chapters started to deviate from that initial premise more and more and ended up completely forsaking what the series was at first and turned into something completely different. Maybe that was authors intention from the start. Maybe author got bored of initial characters and premise and decided to spice thing up and ended up writing about whatever the hell they felt like. Maybe they simply didn't give a fuck if it all made sense or not from the start. But you can't fault people for complaining about the story, because they felt mislead by first chapters what this series is supposed to be about. If you still enjoy it and don't mind that characters just fuck each other without rhyme and reason, because it's just porn, there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't just ignore that it wasn't like that at first and act as if opinions of people who voice their criticism now, because they liked first chapters, are invalid. It's fine to like it, but it's also fine to acknowledge faults in it. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

joined Feb 8, 2016

I don't like this coupling at all, it's just manipulation and rape of an underage. Rape is not sexy in my book.

joined Feb 8, 2016

The issue isn't that it has crazy over the top sex stuff in it. The issue is that it started as a pretty tame smut with likeable characters in relationship. Sure the story wasn't too complex or anything, but it still made sense. But the further it went on, the more new chapters started to deviate from that initial premise more and more and ended up completely forsaking what the series was at first and turned into something completely different. Maybe that was authors intention from the start. Maybe author got bored of initial characters and premise and decided to spice thing up and ended up writing about whatever the hell they felt like. Maybe they simply didn't give a fuck if it all made sense or not from the start. But you can't fault people for complaining about the story, because they felt mislead by first chapters what this series is supposed to be about. If you still enjoy it and don't mind that characters just fuck each other without rhyme and reason, because it's just porn, there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't just ignore that it wasn't like that at first and act as if opinions of people who voice their criticism now, because they liked first chapters, are invalid. It's fine to like it, but it's also fine to acknowledge faults in it. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

My thoughts exactly, and this chapter is a great example of it as I mentioned above. The story just plain lacks any sense of cohesion.

NaiveGlasses
joined Jun 8, 2020

Gosh, sex is all over the place deym.
My heart cant take it. I feel both irritated and bliss.

joined Nov 20, 2017

I know this is probably what they're saying… but if this was a joke translation, I definitely would not be able to tell.

Alcoholism
joined Apr 15, 2017

I- I don't even know anymore lol

Shithead
joined Oct 23, 2018

how dare you cheat on your own mother

Lastpersimmondrops
Chi3c
joined Apr 22, 2020

Well I really love this. Funny as hell and a hot exploration of the "what if" thoughts I'm guessing lots of us have. Yup, that plus so yuri!

Heres%20wakasa
joined Jul 28, 2016

How the hell is a little kid allowed in a damn love hotel? That cannot be allowed in real life... at least I hope it ain't. I guess worrying about the story in a thing like this ain't a good idea though haha.

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joined Apr 5, 2020

gorilla grip

joined Apr 15, 2018

So the next chapter is out, Tae and Jimiko are still relegated to the "Where are they now" bits, and the fetish explored is dubious consent.

Smug
joined Dec 16, 2015

Wow uh...what the fuck

joined May 24, 2014

Wow uh...what the fuck

What the FUCK, indeed

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