Chapter is here and so i am. Like i said i have some on my mind about how the story is going. Like i said just before, it will be ok to think that plot don't matter in hentai but not when Kurogane is trying to make one.

What do you mean first love ? Didn't they see each other for the first time at the hotel ? Also didn't was the one and only time they fuck each other ? What is that first love bullshit now ? Didn't Kuyou even made Ito stop having sex with her and mom because she wanted to be her mom exclusive lover ? Which that being said is a fucking lie from both side. Mommy is horny as fuck and fuck both Takako (???? a bit out of nowhere) and Rise and also Ito for what the text told. Kuyou also being an hyphocrit because she said still do it with Rise. Why bring a forced drama/first love bullshit when the 4 persons include in this mess seem to already fuck each other ? Just make an orgy like last time and make them going together like an harem/ployamory thing , why trying so hard to make a plot that doesn't work ?

Cmon dude
This is just a porn manga and this whole plot is just a fetish for the author
Have you not read any of his/her other work?
Kurogane manga always has a wierd feel to it and this one is not an exception

That might be the strangest excuse i ever heard for justifying a bad writing. It's a "fetish" ? What kind of person have a fetish of writing incoherent plot in a hentai ? It will be easier to admit that the plot is bad and Kurogane has fail wiriting this one instead of wierd justification like that. Mira has already shown that you can make porn and have a decent story so NO, just because it's a porn doesn't mean neceserally that the plot should be bad.
I've read District 4 and beside the unnecessary blackmail at the end, the story and writing was good. I wouldn't mind the plot if Kurogane wasn't trying to make it work. "But muh porn" It's hard to enjoy the porn when Kurogane shove his bad writing in it.
Like i said Kuyou making Ito quit having sex with her and her mom but still fuck around with Rise and Takako being mad that RIse fuck around with Manami, not to mention Rise who fuck around with Manami and Kuyou. It's like the chapters where Ito make Kuyou confess and where Kuyou ask Ito to stop having sex doesn't happen. Same for the threesome, i thought it was for Rise to understand but nope. Hell, it's even mention that Ito still come see Minami once a week. Kurogane should trying to make the plot and just have the girls enjoying together their relation as an harem/open relation where they just fuck other around and sometimes having orgy/theesomes, it's better than still having it doing behind each other back when they clearly already know that their respective partner is fucking around. The irony in this, it's that the two falling in love in the chapter have just fuck each other once in a threesome.

I agree with the sentiment that people need to just stop expecting so much from hentai manga. yeah there are hentai anime and manga that can tell ok or decent or even good stories. Mira being a good example from you. But a lot of other hentai isnt meant to be like that its just crazy over the top sex. And in that department this manga is delivering. If this is bothering you so much why bother reading it? Just shut your brain off, sit back and enjoy the show.

Not when Kurogane is putting plot in it and contradict himself over the chapter. The Tae/Jimiko was actually fine and even when it swap to Takako/RIse it was fine but as soon as we swap to Rise/Kuyou and all, it has goes downhill.

Just shut your brain off, sit back and enjoy the show.

Sorry but that not how it work for me.

If this is bothering you so much why bother reading it?

Cause i have hope that Kurogane stop the unnecessary plot and drama when the solution is obvious to everyone who've read more than 2 or 3 for this arc. Said arc who by the way has gone too long for me now, the characters from who the manga haven't been seen since Ch.5 and we are at Ch.18, it feel like Tae and Jimiko where just here to introduce Takako and start the story.

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The issue isn't that it has crazy over the top sex stuff in it. The issue is that it started as a pretty tame smut with likeable characters in relationship. Sure the story wasn't too complex or anything, but it still made sense. But the further it went on, the more new chapters started to deviate from that initial premise more and more and ended up completely forsaking what the series was at first and turned into something completely different. Maybe that was authors intention from the start. Maybe author got bored of initial characters and premise and decided to spice thing up and ended up writing about whatever the hell they felt like. Maybe they simply didn't give a fuck if it all made sense or not from the start. But you can't fault people for complaining about the story, because they felt mislead by first chapters what this series is supposed to be about. If you still enjoy it and don't mind that characters just fuck each other without rhyme and reason, because it's just porn, there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't just ignore that it wasn't like that at first and act as if opinions of people who voice their criticism now, because they liked first chapters, are invalid. It's fine to like it, but it's also fine to acknowledge faults in it. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

I don't like this coupling at all, it's just manipulation and rape of an underage. Rape is not sexy in my book.

The issue isn't that it has crazy over the top sex stuff in it. The issue is that it started as a pretty tame smut with likeable characters in relationship. Sure the story wasn't too complex or anything, but it still made sense. But the further it went on, the more new chapters started to deviate from that initial premise more and more and ended up completely forsaking what the series was at first and turned into something completely different. Maybe that was authors intention from the start. Maybe author got bored of initial characters and premise and decided to spice thing up and ended up writing about whatever the hell they felt like. Maybe they simply didn't give a fuck if it all made sense or not from the start. But you can't fault people for complaining about the story, because they felt mislead by first chapters what this series is supposed to be about. If you still enjoy it and don't mind that characters just fuck each other without rhyme and reason, because it's just porn, there's nothing wrong with that, but you can't just ignore that it wasn't like that at first and act as if opinions of people who voice their criticism now, because they liked first chapters, are invalid. It's fine to like it, but it's also fine to acknowledge faults in it. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

My thoughts exactly, and this chapter is a great example of it as I mentioned above. The story just plain lacks any sense of cohesion.

Gosh, sex is all over the place deym.
My heart cant take it. I feel both irritated and bliss.

I know this is probably what they're saying… but if this was a joke translation, I definitely would not be able to tell.

I- I don't even know anymore lol

how dare you cheat on your own mother

Well I really love this. Funny as hell and a hot exploration of the "what if" thoughts I'm guessing lots of us have. Yup, that plus so yuri!

How the hell is a little kid allowed in a damn love hotel? That cannot be allowed in real life... at least I hope it ain't. I guess worrying about the story in a thing like this ain't a good idea though haha.

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So the next chapter is out, Tae and Jimiko are still relegated to the "Where are they now" bits, and the fetish explored is dubious consent.

Wow uh...what the fuck

Wow uh...what the fuck

What the FUCK, indeed

Next issue please

Mm, think I'm done with this. I can handle a lot but rape is my line. Don't think I'll end up missing much tbh.

bye

I don’t care who does who anymore, including newcomers.

ಠ_ಠ
Of all the latest chapters i decide to randomly try reading to see if this actually went anywhere decent, I choose the one that has rape slipped into the tags...

Well wtf..

May I get someone to add this image as page 17? Thank you.
https://imgur.com/a/SncGWIp

Man this manga is wild.

It's not like I wanted to assault you or anything.

Sigh ok am just going to say it, this series is more or less similar to Shoujo Sect right?

It's not like I wanted to assault you or anything.

Insane Amounts of Doubt