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Hatsu%20chan
joined Jul 4, 2021

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Nq9nh0qj
joined Oct 25, 2023

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

last edited at Nov 6, 2025 3:26PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

joined Aug 11, 2022

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

Meh, it just how things are...It very simple, people (Even or 'ESPECIALLY' young stupid kids) like to or even love to tear people down and make fun of them for being different, weird or even pretty/beautiful because they are stupid or to just to make themselves feel better about themselves...I might had lived in a nice decent high school experience (Met many decent people, excluding very rude jerks) but that doesn't mean I haven't seen the movies about highschool life and drama plus hearing all the terrible news about high school bullying over stupid sh*t XD

You might think that sounds misanthropic of me but I like to think that is just how reality is like for 50-60% of humanity sadly :)

last edited at Nov 6, 2025 6:54PM

joined Feb 25, 2025

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

All over the world we have a sexy kind of cute, this is more about the type that exist in Japan. Just think of that parody voice saying “onii-chan” (or watch japanese porn) that is why they say she has a lewd voice.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

All over the world we have a sexy kind of cute, this is more about the type that exist in Japan. Just think of that parody voice saying “onii-chan” (or watch japanese porn) that is why they say she has a lewd voice.

I've seen various people in English speaking communities say that cute can't be sexy, so I'm not sure if sexy cute is super normal in the West...? Guess it depends on where you look. Though I think we're more or less on a similar page with what we're thinking lol

Nq9nh0qj
joined Oct 25, 2023

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

All over the world we have a sexy kind of cute, this is more about the type that exist in Japan. Just think of that parody voice saying “onii-chan” (or watch japanese porn) that is why they say she has a lewd voice.

I've seen various people in English speaking communities say that cute can't be sexy, so I'm not sure if sexy cute is super normal in the West...? Guess it depends on where you look. Though I think we're more or less on a similar page with what we're thinking lol

I'm definitely not familiar with "sexy cute". Actually just before checking this thread, I saw an alignment chart for characters with the x axis labeled "sexy" on one end and "cute" on the other. And characters placed near the middle would be more "sometimes sexy, other times cute" than "both at the same time".
It's not that sexy and cute are seen as opposite traits, but incongruous.

But yeah, I'll take note of this cultural tidbit going forward. I'd definitely seen that "onii-chan" thing shudders, but I'd never considered it as anything more than a fetish of some gooner otakus. I suppose that type of appeal is more widespread than I thought.

last edited at Nov 7, 2025 12:15PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I'm definitely not familiar with "sexy cute". Actually just before checking this thread, I saw an alignment chart for characters with the x axis labeled "sexy" on one end and "cute" on the other. And characters placed near the middle would be more "sometimes sexy, other times cute" than "both at the same time".
It's not that sexy and cute are seen as opposite traits, but incongruous.

But yeah, I'll take note of this cultural tidbit going forward. I'd definitely seen that "onii-chan" thing shudders, but I'd never considered it as anything more than a fetish of some gooner otakus. I suppose that type of appeal is more widespread than I thought.

I'm not sure if the whole "onii-chan" thing is that common. I wouldn't say that's the main attribute of sexy cute, as sexy cute can be a large variety of cute flavors and factors. It could simply be a woman that's thought of as sexy even though she's dressing in a way that's simply cute according to some cultures. For that reason I wouldn't say sexy cute is primarily or exclusively a "gooner otaku" thing either. More simply that cute has more overlap with sexy in some cultures than others.

joined Sep 21, 2025

This might be peak tho

1pixel
joined Dec 3, 2010

Dear Yuzuki san, your voice is definitely not lewd like what the others say. Your voice,is in fact crystal clear,very cute, beautiful and soothing. Very comfortable to hear, and that, so high it soars to the highest, just like your friend Hinata san imagine.
Wish to hear more of your singing soon.

And what terrible people who surrounds you and said such words :(

That page confused me.

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

Now that you say so...hmmm
I'm not too sure, I'm sorry.
I was just thinking of what to tell about the protagonist based on this page that says "she has a lewd voice,and that she sounds cutesy and high-pitched" .

So obviously my thoughts are
"Of course not! Because in my world(yours too probably?) that a cute sound doesn't equate to sexy lewd voice."
(Though.. though,in their world or culture, the sound is probably erotic to them..?I don't know. I'm just hmm.. making baseless assumption on this manga)

Hopefully this clears the confusion about the comment I made, thank you.

last edited at Nov 9, 2025 11:44AM

joined Feb 25, 2025

Am I missing out on some sort of cultural context for "cutesy/high-pitched" = "lewd"? Because that's not an association I can recall having heard of before.

I asked around on discord and someone suggested "lewd" might mean something closer to "flirty" instead, which makes more sense in context, but they made that suggestion without looking at the original JP.

In the raws it's エロ声 so erotic voice, lewd voice, sexy voice, however you want to put it.

Sounds like I'm missing cultural context then. I don't see "high pitched/cute/feminine" voices as "lewd or erotic" and have never heard of anyone describing them as such. I've definitely heard more "sultry" voices described as erotic though.

Edit: Then again, these were 5th graders saying that about the MC, so maybe it's meant to be dismissed as something dumb and nonsensical that some kids were saying.

To my knowledge Japan does enjoy a sexy kind of cute, and elements related to that. So I think it's a cultural context thing here.

All over the world we have a sexy kind of cute, this is more about the type that exist in Japan. Just think of that parody voice saying “onii-chan” (or watch japanese porn) that is why they say she has a lewd voice.

I've seen various people in English speaking communities say that cute can't be sexy, so I'm not sure if sexy cute is super normal in the West...? Guess it depends on where you look. Though I think we're more or less on a similar page with what we're thinking lol

I'm definitely not familiar with "sexy cute". Actually just before checking this thread, I saw an alignment chart for characters with the x axis labeled "sexy" on one end and "cute" on the other. And characters placed near the middle would be more "sometimes sexy, other times cute" than "both at the same time".
It's not that sexy and cute are seen as opposite traits, but incongruous.

But yeah, I'll take note of this cultural tidbit going forward. I'd definitely seen that "onii-chan" thing shudders, but I'd never considered it as anything more than a fetish of some gooner otakus. I suppose that type of appeal is more widespread than I thought.

The onii-chan voice is a parody, it’s not exactly like that, I was using it as an example because it’s a widespread meme but again, if you watch japanese porn, high pitch voices are considered sexy but also cute (see idols) so it depends, they are teasing her to make her feel bad. Her situation is similar to bullies calling kids with curly hair “pubic hair”

Gt00pn-odpc
joined Sep 30, 2017

What a pathetic doormat Yuzuki is... Hinata is the one saving this for me.

joined Jan 14, 2020

I feel like if you read the tags from left to right, it is basically the likely plot for this story.

lol

2here3there
joined Mar 19, 2022

What a pathetic doormat Yuzuki is... Hinata is the one saving this for me.

Victim blaming go brrr
In all seriousness, the majority of the story's setup revolves around Yuzuki's low self-esteem. Hinata's main conflict, keeping Yuzuki alive, is dependent on Yuzuki's conflict, rebuilding her self-esteem. I really don't understand reading a story when not buying the central premise or the protagonist, but you do you.

This is kind of a reverse Long-Awaited Feelings so I'm interested in how Yuzuki will continue going about rebuilding her sense of self before it's too late.

joined Aug 11, 2022

MC...you need better friends...Thankfully future girl here is going to be your new best friendo (...Also future waifu).

Yeah...I understand that MC has low-self-esteem but she heard and witness the cheating first hand, very frustrating and annoying to see MC during the first few pages....I am just glad Hinata managed to exposed her cheating friend and trash BF to the whole school (0..0001% chance of that Aimi trash trying to use any underhand tricks to cause any damage to MC by making the school side with her by telling lies.)

Hope Hinata will help MC grow stronger mentally and become happier....Yeah looking at MC's personality....She probably got a lot lot lot of bad BF...probably even bad GFs possibly in the future and just let things be passive instead of standing up for herself instead of rocking the boat when face with mental abuse or cheating...Very likely she unlived herself due to joining an abusive black corporation as well (Corporate slave often unalive themselves sadly unable to handle the unreasonable pressure and mental abuse.)

Though an band of just 2 of them? Sounds like just duo of performer...I mean a band can technically be just two people but that is going to be a lot of hard work to fill in the music and etc. while performing. Wonder if we will get another 1-2 more people to join the band or if it just going to be MC and her future waifu?

Alan%20pequeno
joined Jun 20, 2022

a little annoyed at hinata for posting them both singing together without telling yuzuki, I know thats ultimately her end goal here but like. go a little slower girl, give her at least a little time to get comfy

Alan%20pequeno
joined Jun 20, 2022

...I am just glad Hinata managed to exposed her cheating friend and trash BF to the whole school

that was such a treat, truly chef's kiss, just wish we had a couple more pages of aimi scrambling to defend herself and trying to lie to her face to no avail >:)

(0..0001% chance of that Aimi trash trying to use any underhand tricks to cause any damage to MC by making the school side with her by telling lies.)

now that you said it I do think that's probably gonna come back as conflict point in the story, which could turn out either really good or very horribly depending on how it's written, but so far I like the writing so I believe the author will manage it

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

What a pathetic doormat Yuzuki is... Hinata is the one saving this for me.

Victim blaming go brrr
In all seriousness, the majority of the story's setup revolves around Yuzuki's low self-esteem. Hinata's main conflict, keeping Yuzuki alive, is dependent on Yuzuki's conflict, rebuilding her self-esteem. I really don't understand reading a story when not buying the central premise or the protagonist, but you do you.

This is kind of a reverse Long-Awaited Feelings so I'm interested in how Yuzuki will continue going about rebuilding her sense of self before it's too late.

Agreed on the long-awaited feelings vibe, expect this one takes place in high school instead of show business. And here, the girls actually help each other instead of one hiding everything from her girl.

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

This felt like it just redid chapter 1. Like, why go through all that again? And the pacing is still subpar.

Candy....
joined Dec 10, 2021

hinata reminds me of hibiki from hello melancholic even down to her designed I honestly feel like hibiki is a huge inspiration for her character. Pretty musician barges into girls life and knocks down the walls she's built up around her and forces her to play music w her, also just her overall vibes feel the same (this is a great thing for the record i adore hello melancholic)

joined Jul 8, 2019

This felt like it just redid chapter 1. Like, why go through all that again? And the pacing is still subpar.

Agreed. Poor pacing. Chapter 1 felt rushed as a runaway train, chapter 2 was basically nothing.

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