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I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...
It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...
Then there's a long running series like Murciélago. Which in terms of violent tone is kind of shades of lesbian Hellsing (Abridged) or Black Lagoon, but even more fucked up lol
Oh, black night. You make me sad.
TT_TT
At least, judging by the last issue, it might be able to go out with a bang.
I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...
It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...
Don't get me wrong, I do love this series a lot, but I also think it had that ongoing problem that there was no big plot going on in the action part. In romance, we had this 'I will make her fall in love with me' which is a cute trope, but it was not the main focus. And at the action part, there was never a big threat or plot coming together like I was all along waiting for some big enemy to appear, and I thought that this whole monster rising was because some evil man was trying to attack the country and start a war, or ruin the Black Knight, etc. And I know it's basic, but I was so ready for the enemy to realize Clair is important to Frost, so they get her and other typical stuff that would have made this more interesting. Because even though I love this manga a lot, I always missed the big threat (or if they actually had one coming later, maybe they should have introduced it in volume 2). I think this story needed a bigger threat than the dragon, and maybe more drama? Who knows. I just understand why people got bored with where the story went. And even if it hadn't gone axed, I can't really see where the story could have led, which is maybe a problem. But I know it was the writer's first manga, and I'm glad they at least can have an ending to the story.
Black Knight is ending next month. Sometime really can't catch a break.
I knew this would happen. Anytime I get invested in a series, it gets cancelled. And it frustrates me because the other, less interesting slice of life stories go for years....well, that's life
Can we save it by buying a lot of volumes when it releases in the west ?
Sadly, it would need thousands of copies sold to even get YH to reconsider.
Sadly, it would need thousands of copies sold to even get YH to reconsider.
I ...i can buy two
So it ends here ? :( just like that?
Then we get a berserk Frost who will be rescued by Clarice, and the armor gets undone in front of the crowd.
This should have gotten a longer run, damn.
So it ends here ? :( just like that?
Pretty sure there is one more chapter. It also said "to be continued."
Took her long enough...
what’s the point of the kiss then? i thought violet moved on?
also it’s ending for real?! ive always wanted to forget that news
The fck there's no need for that trash incest shit smh
The fck there's no need for that trash incest shit smh
what are you even talking about. they're not blood-related. this is a class S "onee-sama" kinda deal here.
God this shit is so FUCKING PEAK BRO
The fact it's ending is a goddamn injustice.
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As much as I had enjoyed this series, knowing it got axed and Sou had to rush everything on these last two chapters really soured me on the whole thing.
Dahlia's confession comes out as really forced; the little character development Violet had shown before was thrown out of the window to have her make a childish tantrum. The trauma of her grandfather's dying was pushed away so we can have one fleeting moment of lesbian angst for no reason, making me wonder why cram that angle when everything so far was focused on building up her crush with Shion.
Ah, well, I guess I can have some leniency since this was Sou's first serialized mang,a but still, I'm left with a very bittersweet taste in my mouth
I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...
It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...
Don't get me wrong, I do love this series a lot, but I also think it had that ongoing problem that there was no big plot going on in the action part. In romance, we had this 'I will make her fall in love with me' which is a cute trope, but it was not the main focus. And at the action part, there was never a big threat or plot coming together like I was all along waiting for some big enemy to appear, and I thought that this whole monster rising was because some evil man was trying to attack the country and start a war, or ruin the Black Knight, etc. And I know it's basic, but I was so ready for the enemy to realize Clair is important to Frost, so they get her and other typical stuff that would have made this more interesting. Because even though I love this manga a lot, I always missed the big threat (or if they actually had one coming later, maybe they should have introduced it in volume 2). I think this story needed a bigger threat than the dragon, and maybe more drama? Who knows. I just understand why people got bored with where the story went. And even if it hadn't gone axed, I can't really see where the story could have led, which is maybe a problem. But I know it was the writer's first manga, and I'm glad they at least can have an ending to the story.
Action yuri tends to have a lot of the same problems that I notice in action isekai series. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that action is hard to do well in a manga. In animation or live action you can just have a well choreographed fight scene where the spectacle of the fight carries the scene, but if you draw that same choreography as a series of unmoving manga panels, it loses most of its energy and looks way worse. You need extra elements to keep it interesting most of the time. Maybe if you're a once in a generation talent you can draw something like Berserk where most of the action takes the form of a short series of incredibly detailed and violent impact panels and let the art quality carry it, but for most artists that isn't a real option.
Most of the yuri action (and bad isekai) I've read loves to throw the protagonist against mindless animal monsters that have no personality or complex thought. Which is incredibly boring. Human enemies with big personalities are way more interesting. With human enemies you can have banter, you can have a clash of ideologies or personalities, you can have more personal stakes, you can resolve the fight in a wider variety of ways, and you can have the enemy use intelligent or interesting tactics.
Another thing you can do (that this manga doesn't) is to do Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style puzzle fights. The protagonist has a weird superpower, and they have to figure out how the enemy's weird superpower works in order to find a clever solution. This adds an additional layer of mystery and tension to the fight and you can write a whole manga around this kind of thing (see Jojo's, HunterxHunter, Kaiji, honestly half of all the shounen out there).
I wish action yuri was more of a thing, but I understand why it isn't. It requires an author who understand both how to write a compelling romance and how to write compelling action, and having even one of those skills is rare even among published manga artists.
I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...
It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...
Don't get me wrong, I do love this series a lot, but I also think it had that ongoing problem that there was no big plot going on in the action part. In romance, we had this 'I will make her fall in love with me' which is a cute trope, but it was not the main focus. And at the action part, there was never a big threat or plot coming together like I was all along waiting for some big enemy to appear, and I thought that this whole monster rising was because some evil man was trying to attack the country and start a war, or ruin the Black Knight, etc. And I know it's basic, but I was so ready for the enemy to realize Clair is important to Frost, so they get her and other typical stuff that would have made this more interesting. Because even though I love this manga a lot, I always missed the big threat (or if they actually had one coming later, maybe they should have introduced it in volume 2). I think this story needed a bigger threat than the dragon, and maybe more drama? Who knows. I just understand why people got bored with where the story went. And even if it hadn't gone axed, I can't really see where the story could have led, which is maybe a problem. But I know it was the writer's first manga, and I'm glad they at least can have an ending to the story.
Action yuri tends to have a lot of the same problems that I notice in action isekai series. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that action is hard to do well in a manga. In animation or live action you can just have a well choreographed fight scene where the spectacle of the fight carries the scene, but if you draw that same choreography as a series of unmoving manga panels, it loses most of its energy and looks way worse. You need extra elements to keep it interesting most of the time. Maybe if you're a once in a generation talent you can draw something like Berserk where most of the action takes the form of a short series of incredibly detailed and violent impact panels and let the art quality carry it, but for most artists that isn't a real option.
Most of the yuri action (and bad isekai) I've read loves to throw the protagonist against mindless animal monsters that have no personality or complex thought. Which is incredibly boring. Human enemies with big personalities are way more interesting. With human enemies you can have banter, you can have a clash of ideologies or personalities, you can have more personal stakes, you can resolve the fight in a wider variety of ways, and you can have the enemy use intelligent or interesting tactics.
Another thing you can do (that this manga doesn't) is to do Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style puzzle fights. The protagonist has a weird superpower, and they have to figure out how the enemy's weird superpower works in order to find a clever solution. This adds an additional layer of mystery and tension to the fight and you can write a whole manga around this kind of thing (see Jojo's, HunterxHunter, Kaiji, honestly half of all the shounen out there).
I wish action yuri was more of a thing, but I understand why it isn't. It requires an author who understand both how to write a compelling romance and how to write compelling action, and having even one of those skills is rare even among published manga artists.
I don't even think you need all of this to make an entertaining Yuri action manga. Though I also don't need every series to be a 10/10. I'm perfectly happy with a decent action series with Yuri romance in it. I'm someone that loves a lot of action series and romance series that are varying in quality, I'm curious to see what people make and am often pretty open to seeing a varied range of quality. I'm probably also more lenient than some.
Also I think action through manga art is fine, one key element to fun action is choreography. Sakamoto Days isn't my favorite manga and I'm not sure how good the anime adaption is, but I know that the manga has some really fun fight choreography. How the characters interact with the environment around them throughout the fight is also a fun element. Some of the fights in that manga give me some vibes of old school Jackie Chan.
The fck there's no need for that trash incest shit smh
Of course there's no need. But I WANT it
The fck there's no need for that trash incest shit smh
Of course there's no need. But I WANT it
Yeah but there's not even incest here lol
As Giftnova said,
what are you even talking about. they're not blood-related. this is a class S "onee-sama" kinda deal here.
Class S is something that I think everyone reading Yuri should probably know about
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RIP to this manga, seems it will be ending soon.
Though it felt like getting NTR damage when violet kissed Dahlia while Merchant girl (Violet)'s body guard was just watching lol...Guess either body guard-san doesn't have any romantic feelings for her boss or she is a very very open minded person... [Violet isn't going to date and marry her onee-sama anytime soon...It obvious that its seems to be a goodbye kiss...probably a goodbye kiss to say farewell to their possible relationship...].
Guess we can only enjoy the next 1-2 chapters that will be released, hopefully the author is skilled enough to wrap things up nicely.
The fck there's no need for that trash incest shit smh
what are you even talking about. they're not blood-related. this is a class S "onee-sama" kinda deal here.
Low-level weeb detected~ (Still has normie levels of common-sense~)!!!! XD
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Sumimasen, who is that Onee san anyway?
yes yes how terrible. incest between "sisters"... think about what happens if they have children! Oh wait... Nvm then.
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Though it felt like getting NTR damage when violet kissed Dahlia while Merchant girl (Violet)'s body guard was just watching lol...Guess either body guard-san doesn't have any romantic feelings for her boss or she is a very very open minded person... [Violet isn't going to date and marry her onee-sama anytime soon...It obvious that its seems to be a goodbye kiss...probably a goodbye kiss to say farewell to their possible relationship...].
The second part. Felt more to me like Shion was secure in her and Violet's relationship, and as a confidant to her lady likely knew all the background underpinning the interaction between her and Dahlia. She saw this scene play out and recognized it was that goodbye (and Violet getting much needed closure on the whole thing). Considering the next few pages have a moment between Violet and Shion with Dahlia in the background pretty much going 'oh, they're like this', I'd be surprised if they were not explicitly romantic by the end. As it is, their scenes are leaning hard enough toward it they're stressing the boundaries of the 'extremely devoted retainer (but platonic, we swear)' interpretation.
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This manga started out fine but the fights didn't interest me much and gave me nothing. The main pair and their relationship troubles were the most interesting part for me but it couldn't carry the series. So far pretty much the only action yuri I've really liked is Murciélago I think. I really want something like To not die or Sakamoto Days with a hint of yuri.
I call it the curse of Action+Yuri series. :-( Almost all manga I've read that combined those genres got axed before their time...
It feels like there's little overlap between the audiences of the two genres, so a series that tries both ends up unpopular in either...
Don't get me wrong, I do love this series a lot, but I also think it had that ongoing problem that there was no big plot going on in the action part. In romance, we had this 'I will make her fall in love with me' which is a cute trope, but it was not the main focus. And at the action part, there was never a big threat or plot coming together like I was all along waiting for some big enemy to appear, and I thought that this whole monster rising was because some evil man was trying to attack the country and start a war, or ruin the Black Knight, etc. And I know it's basic, but I was so ready for the enemy to realize Clair is important to Frost, so they get her and other typical stuff that would have made this more interesting. Because even though I love this manga a lot, I always missed the big threat (or if they actually had one coming later, maybe they should have introduced it in volume 2). I think this story needed a bigger threat than the dragon, and maybe more drama? Who knows. I just understand why people got bored with where the story went. And even if it hadn't gone axed, I can't really see where the story could have led, which is maybe a problem. But I know it was the writer's first manga, and I'm glad they at least can have an ending to the story.
Action yuri tends to have a lot of the same problems that I notice in action isekai series. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that action is hard to do well in a manga. In animation or live action you can just have a well choreographed fight scene where the spectacle of the fight carries the scene, but if you draw that same choreography as a series of unmoving manga panels, it loses most of its energy and looks way worse. You need extra elements to keep it interesting most of the time. Maybe if you're a once in a generation talent you can draw something like Berserk where most of the action takes the form of a short series of incredibly detailed and violent impact panels and let the art quality carry it, but for most artists that isn't a real option.
Most of the yuri action (and bad isekai) I've read loves to throw the protagonist against mindless animal monsters that have no personality or complex thought. Which is incredibly boring. Human enemies with big personalities are way more interesting. With human enemies you can have banter, you can have a clash of ideologies or personalities, you can have more personal stakes, you can resolve the fight in a wider variety of ways, and you can have the enemy use intelligent or interesting tactics.
Another thing you can do (that this manga doesn't) is to do Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style puzzle fights. The protagonist has a weird superpower, and they have to figure out how the enemy's weird superpower works in order to find a clever solution. This adds an additional layer of mystery and tension to the fight and you can write a whole manga around this kind of thing (see Jojo's, HunterxHunter, Kaiji, honestly half of all the shounen out there).
I wish action yuri was more of a thing, but I understand why it isn't. It requires an author who understand both how to write a compelling romance and how to write compelling action, and having even one of those skills is rare even among published manga artists.
You make some good points, but I don't agree with your conclusions.
For one, I suspect when you say "action yuri" or "yuri action", you're talking about yuri fantasy/isekai with some action scenes in it. Because other than that, a subgenre of yuri that truly focuses on action doesn't really exist in manga. The action genre is where combat is at least in part the main event that people show up for; in most yuri fantasy/isekai this is not the case; they can get away with mediocre combat as long as other fundamentals are covered.
Next, it's totally possible to create a compelling yuri story even without romance-writing skills. 'The Executioner and her Way of Life' is a series of yuri fantasy light novels that puts more thought into combat and magic system than its peers (the isekai category in general included), and while it is light on romance in the typical sense, the plot is still in large part driven by intense feelings between girls/women. 'Otherside Picnic' is a series of yuri sci-fi novels that initially hooks the audience with its strange world building and surrealism, and its romance plot only comes to the foreground after several volumes. I would also like to point to yuri anime (even if some are not officially yuri) without a direct source material like 'Princess Principal' and 'Madoka Magica' as examples of how a story can be compelling as yuri without a clear romance plot.
And the uncomfortable bit: the most prestigious segment of action-oriented manga mostly consists of series that primarily focus on male characters and their bonds with each other. Virtually none of these stories are overtly gay, but they can be compelling for fujoshi. (In the minority where women get to do anything, the M/F relationships may get praise too.) Never mind that premium quality action-oriented yuri series are rare (especially ones that go beyond just ship teasing or subtext), premium quality action-oriented series about women at all are rare.
We live in a world where women are expected to be weaker than men by default, so stories where women consistently get to use physical force in solving conflicts, as effectively as men if not better, contradict social norms. On top of that, women are expected to prioritize finding a man to marry over everything else, so of course stories where women fall in love (or get obsessed) with other women instead of men also contradict social norms. So which is more likely: that a compelling action-adventure with a lesbian theme just happens to be too difficult to create, or that a lot fewer people are motivated to try and a lot fewer people are interested in reading it?
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