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Ese%20len
joined Apr 26, 2017

i feel like i need to do a read read because i feel like im getting characters confused

1622968954411
joined Jun 3, 2014

Instead of going the love triangle route maybe these two girls should kiss instead

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

This is like worst possible scenario. Meh.

Pfp2
joined Jan 11, 2022

Thanks for the update!

Img_3131
joined Nov 25, 2023

yeah i think i'm dropping this one. have fun guys! i'm out

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

So, Bisexual ?

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

The eyeroll I made when reading this chapter was intense lol

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Ya know there was a chance of this being ok, now I'm not so sure it's gonna work. Blonde can't let go, and glasses is way too naive. Besides her having no reason to know what's going on around her. Rip glasses girl

Yeah they're about to have a major clash. I'm assuming our MC will have to step in between at some point.

Ihstarresi
joined Jun 22, 2018

Instead of going the love triangle route maybe these two girls should kiss instead

exactly my thoughts, this development seems very contrived

Screenshot_15-9-2025_205514_dynasty-scans.com
joined Mar 31, 2023

Don’t get me wrong by saying this as I am enjoying the story but, do we need a Het tag?

joined Jan 29, 2025

Y'all are in such a hurry, we havent gotten to the protag's gay awakening, literally, and everyone is saying its het bullshit, calm down, we'll get there

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Y'all are in such a hurry, we havent gotten to the protag's gay awakening, literally, and everyone is saying its het bullshit, calm down, we'll get there

Regardless of whatever it is this is some of the most annoyingly forced drama I've seen in a second lol

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Y'all are in such a hurry, we havent gotten to the protag's gay awakening, literally, and everyone is saying its het bullshit, calm down, we'll get there

The protagonist is already gay and in a relationship, but we'll get more from them after this mini-arc, I'm sure. She might also be needed to help her students navigate this inevitable argument. I like that the story isn't all or nothing and is therefore hard to predict, but some here don't feel the same. Stories like this get these types of comments. It's normal. The story hasn't hidden what it is, otherwise. This seems like an interesting complication, and I'm not sure how it will resolve or how the MC will get involved again.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 8:26AM

joined Jul 26, 2024

Kuritani at least is clearly attracted to men from this chapter, so Kuritani as a lesbian is out.

I haven't written of Kuritani / Nozaki, but they will have to resolve the Kaizuka situation. It's not clear what Kuritani will do if she has to choose between her new friend (who approached her due to Kaizuka) and Kaizuka, but I don't think she'll want to sell Nozaki out unless Nozaki makes an enemy of her first. Kaede may help bride the gap in understanding between Kuritani and Nozaki when that happens.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 9:33AM

Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

Bleh, I don't really care for this development at all.
I was more invested when I thought these two were going to make some good yuri.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Kuritani at least is clearly attracted to men from this chapter, so Kuritani as a lesbian is out.

I haven't written of Kuritani / Nozaki, but they will have to resolve the Kaizuka situation. It's not clear what Kuritani will do if she has to choose between her new friend (who approached her due to Kaizuka) and Kaizuka, but I don't think she'll want to sell Nozaki out unless Nozaki makes an enemy of her first. Kaede may help bride the gap in understanding between Kuritani and Nozaki when that happens.

Kaede has her hands full for sure. I wonder if her GF will also inadvertently help again. Each issue has needed some reminiscing to help find the solution. She's a love detective at this point.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 11:02AM

joined Jul 26, 2024

This isn't a response to anyone, but I find the absolute double standard toward male characters on here funny. There are other series where the MC or love interest has both a female character and male character interested in them who is possessive and manipulative, but people will act like the man is absolute scumbag in relation to the female love interest. If the male character ends up doing anything kind or sympathetic, the readers are shocked.

There's also a less funny bias toward bisexual characters, who will be in this story at some point. I get this to some extent because "bisexual who gives up on a lesbian, who often dies or similar, and then marries a man so she can have a legitimate relationship" was common in media for decades. When we have a series like this with a celebrated wlw relationship at the forefront, I find this sentiment less sympathetic. It's like readers think a character being bisexual invalidates their attraction to women.

I don't mean to get political on here, but there should be room for stories with bisexual or even straight characters. Not everyone needs to read them if they prefer otherwise, but it mirrors real world dynamics much more. That's important to a story like this about how people resolve messy situations involving love.

@SrNevik

Kaede has her hands full for sure. I wonder if her GF will also inadvertently help again. Each issue has needed some reminiscing to help find the solution. She's a love detective at this point.

It seems likely. A big part of the story is Kaede processing emotionally unprocessed issues through her advice to the students. Nami was stated to be popular, so Kaede would have had to spend time watching her interest be pursued by other people after being rejected. This may relate to the continuation of the first love conversation.

It's interesting because Nozaki, who looks and acts more like Nami, is paralleling Kaede's situation more in this way, but Kuritani is more like Kaede in appearance, personality, and confidence levels. She should be able to relate with both of them.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 12:53PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

It seems likely. A big part of the story is Kaede processing emotionally unprocessed issues through her advice to the students. Nami was stated to be popular, so Kaede would have had to spend time watching her interest be pursued by other people after being rejected. This may relate to the continuation of the first love conversation.

It's interesting because Nozaki, who looks and acts more like Nami, is paralleling Kaede's situation more in this way, but Kuritani is more like Kaede in appearance, personality, and confidence levels. She should be able to relate with both of them.

Yeah, others have mentioned this potential parallel. I'm interested in finding out whether that's intentional on the author's part. It could lead to an interesting resolution to the problem between these students. Right now, they are mixed in a really thick web of feelings. I'm hoping Nozaki doesn't do anything rash, though she is a high school student with an apparently long-held crush being threatened, so maybe I'm asking for too much. I also teach, so some of these issues are a bit funny to read about.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 1:49PM

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

This isn't a response to anyone, but I find the absolute double standard toward male characters on here funny. There are other series where the MC or love interest has both a female character and male character interested in them who is possessive and manipulative, but people will act like the man is absolute scumbag in relation to the female love interest. If the male character ends up doing anything kind or sympathetic, the readers are shocked.

There's also a less funny bias toward bisexual characters, who will be in this story at some point. I get this to some extent because "bisexual who gives up on a lesbian, who often dies or similar, and then marries a man so she can have a legitimate relationship" was common in media for decades. When we have a series like this with a celebrated wlw relationship at the forefront, I find this sentiment less sympathetic. It's like readers think a character being bisexual invalidates their attraction to women.

I don't mean to get political on here, but there should be room for stories with bisexual or even straight characters. Not everyone needs to read them if they prefer otherwise, but it mirrors real world dynamics much more. That's important to a story like this about how people resolve messy situations involving love.

I think it’s partly a coping mechanism. Speaking for myself, it’s a fairly common trope in Yuri manga that when a male character is introduced, he often turns out to be a "scumbag". While this trope seems to be fading a bit, it still happens quite frequently.
As you mentioned, there’s often a situation where the main character or love interest has both a female and a male character pursuing them. Since it’s a Yuri story, it feels natural to root for the female character rather than the male. Because of that, I sometimes dismiss or belittle the male love interest, assuming he’ll turn out badly. But if I see signs that he’s actually not a bad person, I tend to ease up on that judgment.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I want to make it very clear that I have no issue with bisexual and straight characters appearing in this series. Especially as someone that always wants more bi characters in media.

My issue here is the way the drama has progressed simply doesn't feel well written and feels very haphazard and silly to me. If people disagree with me that's fine, I just don't want anyone to wrongly assume things about me.

joined Jul 26, 2024

I should make it clear that I don't see story criticisms as being critical of any real world group. I have seen (and I'm also thinking of other threads) bisexual characters being treated as heterosexual or otherwise inappropriate if they pursue a male love interest, but this is entirely different from what one considers good writing.

@SrNevik

Yeah, others have mentioned this potential parallel. I'm interested in finding out whether that's intentional on the author's part. It could lead to an interesting resolution to the problem between these students. Right now, they are mixed in a really thick web of feelings. I'm hoping Nozaki doesn't do anything rash, though she is a high school student with an apparently long-held crush being threatened, so maybe I'm asking for too much. I also teach, so some of these issues are a bit funny to read about.

Nozaki is something of a shit stirrer who was being won over by Kuritani being nice, so having Kuritani approach Nozaki's greatest insecurity will result in some type of drama. I kept expecting Kaizuka to see the condom Kuritani practically had displayed on the bag under her arm, but he was too flustered to notice. Establishing Kuritani as promiscuous was her original goal, so I'm expecting something along those lines.

Now that you mention it, I think that was the type of thing people liked to say to discredit female student's reputation when I was a student. I pretty much withdrew from school social life and focused on my books instead of student drama, so I never paid much attention to this type of thing.

@LilyBlueCat

I think it’s partly a coping mechanism. Speaking for myself, it’s a fairly common trope in Yuri manga that when a male character is introduced, he often turns out to be a "scumbag". While this trope seems to be fading a bit, it still happens quite frequently.
As you mentioned, there’s often a situation where the main character or love interest has both a female and a male character pursuing them. Since it’s a Yuri story, it feels natural to root for the female character rather than the male. Because of that, I sometimes dismiss or belittle the male love interest, assuming he’ll turn out badly. But if I see signs that he’s actually not a bad person, I tend to ease up on that judgment.

I've found it to generally not be the case that the men are auto scumbags, at least in the stories I read. Usually they're portrayed in a more complex way, even if they have issues, and their scumbaggery is on the same level as the female characters who are largely excused by readers for equally problematic behavior. I still wouldn't like it if a yuri advertised story ended with the male pursuer interest being selected over the female love interest, or even if Kaede left Nami for the male teacher, but it doesn't make the male pursuer pure evil.

This is outside of "Everyone is a lesbian" style stories, where the men are either villains or yuri knights. One I'm reading now like this is "My Intern Bullied Me Again!". It was lamp shaded at one point that everyone at the company the characters work at turned out to be lesbian or pursuing women. Usually authors make it clear whether or not it's going to be this type of story from the beginning. Subverting that with an established character would be something of a betrayal.

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 4:58PM

joined Aug 11, 2022

Okay here is a remainder of all the character for everyone as a fresh remainder (Made for that random comment above and for future readers///If your reading through this I am assuming your up to date on the latest chapters.):
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Our MC (Kaede-chan/Teacher/Last name seems to be Shimizu)-
Miyamoto-sensei (MC's current lover and first crush from high school/ fellow teacher).
Random Male teacher trying to flirt with MC (Very popular with some female students)
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Random side-character female who (asked MC for advice to SEGGS and make moves on her BF/childhood friend./ Ch.1 debut and probably won't see her again/ Serious role-model student)
Random side-character male student (BF of serious role-model student/ we won't be seeing him.)
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Miki (Random girl that has feeling for random annoying male teacher)
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Nakanishi (Has crush on MC and strong feelings towards MC.)
Okuda-kun (Has feelings for the girl who confessed to our MC./ seem to be a calm and smart guy.)
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Kuritani (Glasses girl/ Nerd/ having trouble feeling love)
Nozaki (Gal, free-spirited type/ Befriended Kuritani and has strong 'feelings' for her former boyfriend)
Kaizuka (Nozaki's former BF and boy who has crush on Nozaki)
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Plus any other character that I might have missed.
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Also....LIES AND SLANDER!!!!!! NOZAKI!!!!! Just because MC made a tiny mistake and let her mouth speak before her brain can even think does not mean it accurate...well not 100% accurate....more like at least 2-3 times a week with MC's GF...ALSO...very rude to Assume MC is very promiscuous....But I guess that might be fault of the male teacher too trying to flirt with the MC...

Daamn...lol...RIP to glasses girl and Nozaki's best friends relationship (Nozaki really enjoys her friendship with Kuritani...now it going to die in a fiery death)....Nozaki's former EX-BF got lucky and put the right moves on Kuritani [Right time, right place and saying, doing the right words]...(Didn't laugh at her nerdy book side and having the same reading book hobby....Why Kuritani did the person you were able to have the slightly 'romantic' feelings for have to be this guy....Really what are the fking odds...*Side glance at Author causing the whole mess.*)

Also...Kuritani might need better friends if the people who laughed at her nerding out were her 'friends'...

Also I want the former EX-BF gone since he is the source of this main drama and conflict...but besides being a fking @sshole jerk to his ex-GF he doesn't have any major personality flaws (Yet...no serious personality flaws shown...yet...could be shown later or could be never...but he should have fking settle things with Nozaki properly...)

Nozaki might resort to using the nukes she been holding onto (Dirty secret rumors about her nerd friend) if nerd girl ends up dating her ex-bf...

Anyways...LET THE DRAMA AND INCOMING EMOTIONAL FIGHT BEGIN~!!!!!!!

last edited at Sep 24, 2025 4:44PM

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

Yuri fans want yuri, big shock.

joined Jul 2, 2025

no offense towards the guy but where’s the yuri? the 2 look cute and all but i’m not rly here for that…
at the time i read this there was no het tag so i’m glad it’s here now

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joined Aug 29, 2019

Uh oh...

I like the format with the manga being essentially a series of vignettes about various characters connected by being in the same school, reminds me a bit of Tsurezure Children. But while it does make sense for the current arc to be playing out like it does, I wouldn't mind a bit more screen time for our original lead couple. Tying the vignettes more closely together by their involvement would really be the icing on top imo.

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