I'm going to be real I've been hoping that this is a breakup and find new love manga since chapter one. I'm still interested if that's the tragectory of the story, but damn Nozaki has always sucked.

If you mean the main two (teachers) breaking up, I'd not expect that at all. I'm not sure why people want them broken up but as I understand it, they are a staple POV for the series, with "crazy" relationship stuff happening around them. This is just based on what I've heard the author say. She basically always depicts them loving on each other. I do imagine we'll learn about their history though, since it seems like it took a lot to get to where they are now.

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I saw people on mangadex were getting the two adults (Kaede/Nami, not sure what their full names are) mixed up, which confused me since I thought it was clear they were separate characters. One person was saying it's bad writing to set it up like a flashback and then abruptly switch to two similar looking characters.

Rereading it, they're right that it's set up similarly to a flashback in chapter 7 ("When did you first fall in love?", transition to Kuritani) and that they do look somewhat similar. Nami and Nozaki both have somewhat over the top, dominant style personalities toward Kaede and Kuritani. Now that I write that, I notice their names start with the same letter as well. The difference is that Nami likes and values Kaede now (given the author's twitter allegedly shows the author saw the Nami/Kaede scenes as loving), despite still saying mean things to trip up Kaede for (I assume) fun.

This makes me think the reading of Kuritani and Nozaki being future lovers is being telegraphed more strongly than I realized, to the point readers who forgot about the earlier chapters are getting them confused with Nami and Kaede. Rather than the teachers breaking up, I will expect Kuritani and Nozaki to pair up instead.

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You know what I got mixed up and thought this was a flashback about the teachers, I'm dumb. I still am concerned about the whole if anyone finds out we're dating it's over thing, I don't think that's healthy.

It's not clear how serious that was beyond wanting to keep it private, but we may find out later. My guess is that two female teachers who work in the same school being in a relationship openly could be career killing. Someone more familiar with Japan can comment on that if they want, but it could have been Nami's way of emphasizing to be careful instead of a literal threat about what she plans to do.

Girl... if the only reason you’re getting all friendly with her is because your ex-boyfriend liked her, and you’re just trying to get back at her for HIS feelings, that’s messed up. But if you two genuinely end up becoming good friends or even lovers, good for you :P

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i'm under the impression both nozaki and ibuki could go fuck themselves

So i've skipped some chapters, but reading the last two it might seem that hotel girl and and ex-gf girl could actually become something. I def could see the beginnings of a crush on hotel girl...

So i've skipped some chapters, but reading the last two it might seem that hotel girl and and ex-gf girl could actually become something. I def could see the beginnings of a crush on hotel girl...

I hope it's the start of a crush, and she doesn't go through with destroying the girl for feelings the boy has...

But honestly from the way that we all can't really tell what will be happening and still it's not super random... this is pretty decent plot writing :D

theres yuri everywhere at this school

I'm going to be real I've been hoping that this is a breakup and find new love manga since chapter one. I'm still interested if that's the tragectory of the story, but damn Nozaki has always sucked.

I'm not sure why people want them broken up

It's the ultimatum in chapter one, immediately juxtaposed to a bunch of gaslighting (not from the gf) where for some reason the MC teacher internalizes that a bunch of this is her fault and she needs to be the one thinking of others, then followed up by the weird dubcon interaction, and that their text chat is only messages about hooking up. It's a super fun, nonstop drama roll of a story, but it's wild. Like the student getting picked up by the police and not the predator. I'm assuming a lot of these things are just supposed to be gaffs and gags? That the relationship actually means something to the gf and she isn't ready to drop it at the slightest inconvenience? I'm struggling with like if this needs the drama and/or comedy tags lol

The way I see it, and hope the story is going to go is that Nami and Kaede are in a loving but somewhat misguided relationship. Where they don't actually mange to communicate the way they should.

Where, through interacting with the teenage cast and the love troubles Kaede can work through her own insecurities and improve her relationship to Nami.

Which is not to say that Kaede is the sole reason their relationship is kind of wonky. A lot of what we've seen hint at Nami largely being the reason why things could be better. Her ultimatum for one, but also the way in which Kaede has been left feeling like she's on thin ice because of the way Nami rejected her eight years ago in ways that don't feel like they've been resolved despite them now being together.

But! I think a lot of the happenings really do exist for Kaede to grow as a person and improve communications with Nami to the point where she'll actually be able to ask. "Hey what was up with that ultimatum? How do we clear the air between us? Can you work with me on that?"

So to round things up. I don't their relationship is meant to be perfect but I do think it is meant to improve over the course of the story as Kaede gets involved and held responsible for calming these teenagers wild rides.

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I'm rereading. I don't think the author intended "the ultimatum" the way people are thinking, but I could be wrong here.

The way I'm seeing this that Kaede was interested in Nami as a child, but thought Nami was not interested in her. She then stayed interested in Nami for around a decade. This led to her developing a strong sense of shame around her interest in Nami and her attraction to women in general. Even if Nami is now reciprocating, it's difficult for someone to feel secure in this situation. Even if it was some person other than Nami, Kaede would still feel a sense of shame, just not as much.

The interactions that seem creepy to many are part of how Nami reassures Kaede. She does this by giving a Kaede a sense that Kaede isn't in control and isn't responsible for what's happening. This is why the author sees it as a loving relationship, even though Kaede is crying during sex and similar. Given the author's previous short with identical looking characters where they have a similar dynamic, it's safe to say that the author doesn't see this kind of dynamic as something to fix. Although they can't undo their history, they use it to connect with each other and feel close to each other.

In terms of the statement about leaving Kaede, that was very blunt. We know Kaede has a tendency to go along with what other people are doing, even when it's not good for her. This likely is an area Kaede will grow in during the story. In the mean time, Nami is saying something Kaede will remember so that Kaede prioritizes both of them. While it wasn't clear to the viewers yet, Nami knows Kaede's limitations very well. Kaede is more likely to do it for Nami than for Kaede herself.

Their texts are about meeting for sex, but we see them talking to each other during breaks. They don't need to conversationally text if they see each other daily. They still are very busy with their responsibilities as teachers, especially during the week, while Kaede herself made the infamous statement about wanting to do it every day. The night meetings are a way Nami is accommodating Kaede by meeting later at night, after they've finished everything. Kaede even thinks of the statement about Nami leaving her next time while they're doing sexual acts. In retrospect, Kaede is clearly getting off to even that comment, but also with the whole dynamic of being summoned to Nami's apartment. Nami may have known what she was doing better than the viewers.

I expect development in their relationship, with Kaede becoming more independent and therefore more trusted by Nami. Still, interpretation their dynamic as many readers have will confuse readers. The scenes feel very different to me upon reread with this mindset. It might make less sense to people who can't relate to why this has felt desirable to Kaede, but the author writes from their own perspective.

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I'm rereading. I don't think the author intended "the ultimatum" the way people are thinking, but I could be wrong here.

The way I'm seeing this that Kaede was interested in Nami as a child, but thought Nami was not interested in her. She then stayed interested in Nami for around a decade. This led to her developing a strong sense of shame around her interest in Nami and her attraction to women in general. Even if Nami is now reciprocating, it's difficult for someone to feel secure in this situation. Even if it was some person other than Nami, Kaede would still feel a sense of shame, just not as much.

The interactions that seem creepy to many are part of how Nami reassures Kaede. She does this by giving a Kaede a sense that Kaede isn't in control and isn't responsible for what's happening. This is why the author sees it as a loving relationship, even though Kaede is crying during sex and similar. Given the author's previous short with identical looking characters where they have a similar dynamic, it's safe to say that the author doesn't see this kind of dynamic as something to fix. Although they can't undo their history, they use it to connect with each other and feel close to each other.

In terms of the statement about leaving Kaede, that was very blunt. We know Kaede has a tendency to go along with what other people are doing, even when it's not good for her. This likely is an area Kaede will grow in during the story. In the mean time, Nami is saying something Kaede will remember so that Kaede prioritizes both of them. While it wasn't clear to the viewers yet, Nami knows Kaede's limitations very well. Kaede is more likely to do it for Nami than for Kaede herself.

Their texts are about meeting for sex, but we see them talking to each other during breaks. They don't need to conversationally text if they see each other daily. They still are very busy with their responsibilities as teachers, especially during the week, while Kaede herself made the infamous statement about wanting to do it every day. The night meetings are a way Nami is accommodating Kaede by meeting later at night, after they've finished everything. Kaede even thinks of the statement about Nami leaving her next time while they're doing sexual acts. In retrospect, Kaede is clearly getting off to even that comment, but also with the whole dynamic of being summoned to Nami's apartment. Nami may have known what she was doing better than the viewers.

I expect development in their relationship, with Kaede becoming more independent and therefore more trusted by Nami. Still, interpretation their dynamic as many readers have will confuse readers. The scenes feel very different to me upon reread with this mindset. It might make less sense to people who can't relate to why this has felt desirable to Kaede, but the author writes from their own perspective.

Yeah, this is more or less my take as well. I didn't want to explain it in this detail, so thanks for taking the time. You even explained each instance. One of the early chapters people were badly reacting to is one I definitely know the author referred to as an unambiguously loving moment between them. In her mind they are very much in love.

Edit: I actually found my earlier comment on this. It links to an article where she was interviewed and discussed the series and their relationship.

The author was interviewed: should make the series' focus on Kaede and Nami clear. It's also a nice little look behind the curtain, though truthfully there's not a lot here that she hasn't already said on her own. Pretty short and direct but also means she's getting some traction early.

I think one potentially interesting tidbit (considering some of the comments) is that she views Kaede and Nami's relationship as loving and specifically shouts out episode 4, talking about how she meant for that to be a touching moment between them on the couch. This I think is clear from how she discusses them on Twitter and all her old sketches of them but it's still useful to see here again.

They just seem chill to me and not the source of much drama. Every chapter has a glimpse of them cuddling and making out while talking about or remembering the crap happening at school. I especially liked your mentioning how Nami knows Kaede better than the audience (as we are slowly coming to understand her). I expect we'll learn about their history and things might get rocky at some point but I wouldn't expect to see them not ending up together.

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Interesting analyses, thanks!

@SrNevik

Thanks! That comment you quoted is what got me thinking about this. Back then, I didn't understand why the author would see the scenes that way. Rereading it with more story information and also with certain life issues on my mind, I found their interactions moving and wanted to write more about it.

My expectation is that a future conflict between them is being set up where Kaede leads to other people finding out about their relationship. In addition to Kaede finding multiple students attractive, we had the break up threat and Nami telling Kaede not to let a student confess to her, a female student confessing to Kaede, and then Kaede telling the student that Kaede is dating another woman, which led to the student saying she was waiting for Nami to mess up.

It would make sense if the story developed more in that direction. Nami could be angry that Kaede didn't prioritize their relationship and could distance herself from Kaede to protect their careers. I also think this wouldn't be a permanent fallout. I would see it more as a growth opportunity for Kaede.

Maybe it won't happen exactly like that, and I may reevaluate more during my reread, but I'm expecting at minimum an argument between them.

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@SrNevik

Thanks! That comment you quoted is what got me thinking about this. Back then, I didn't understand why the author would see the scenes that way. Rereading it with more story information and also with certain life issues on my mind, I found their interactions moving and wanted to write more about it.

My expectation is that a future conflict between them is being set up where Kaede leads to other people finding out about their relationship. In addition to Kaede finding multiple students attractive, we had the break up threat and Nami telling Kaede not to let a student confess to her, a female student confessing to Kaede, and then Kaede telling the student that Kaede is dating another woman, which led to the student saying she was waiting for Nami to mess up.

It would make sense if the story developed more in that direction. Nami could be angry that Kaede didn't prioritize their relationship and could distance herself from Kaede to protect their careers. I also think this wouldn't be a permanent fallout. I would see it more as a growth opportunity for Kaede.

Maybe it won't happen exactly like that, and I may reevaluate more during my reread, but I'm expecting at minimum an argument between them.

I think for whatever reason (maybe the way she draws faces, or her use of tears?) people seem to read negativity into scenes that to me seem meant to be teasing or at least consensual. It happened in her other short (the one I'm assuming you were alluding to in your earlier comment called "Their Secret Time?"). At least in this series the author has explicitly said these interactions were meant to be loving, so that retroactively makes me more confident that the other was the same.

And yeah, I could see them having an issue that they overcome later but I could also see them just being a more or less established relationship with an interesting history that oversees all this school drama while they have sex at every opportunity and gossip about stuff. I feel like the smoking gun has to reappear at some point though, so maybe you're right; it really could be an obstacle they deal with towards the end.

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It happened in her other short (the one I'm assuming you were alluding to in your earlier comment called "Their Secret Time?").

Yeah, that's the one. A lot of people did think it was unclear.

And yeah, I could see them having an issue that they overcome later but I could also see them just being a more or less established relationship with an interesting history that oversees all this school drama while they have sex at every opportunity and gossip about stuff. I feel like the smoking gun has to reappear at some point though, so maybe you're right; it really could be an obstacle they deal with towards the end.

Kaede considers herself inexperienced. I am thinking she will be learning from the students and her interactions with them, then taking that into her own relationship. They are relatively established, but it's not clear exactly how long they've been together romantically. I noticed now in 5, after Kaede tells the student (Nakanishi) that Kaede is a relationship with a woman, Kaede explicitly says "Nami's gonna throw a fit if I tell her." Even Kaede seems to expect an argument at the minimum.

I also commented earlier on how strongly the author telegraphed a coming Nozaki / Kuritani relationship by setting them up as a parallel. I am expecting the author not to subvert this, given the amount of details that went into it, as well as other similar implied plot points. The specifics are unclear, but I take this as a general direction being implied.

I also commented earlier on how strongly the author telegraphed a coming Nozaki / Kuritani relationship by setting them up as a parallel. I am expecting the author not to subvert this, given the amount of details that went into it, as well as other similar implied plot points. The specifics are unclear, but I take this as a general direction being implied.

The Kuritani thing, I'm not as sure about. Because this series isn't biased one way or the other (it shows gay and straight couples and will have both) there's a lot of avenues this could go--which is part of what makes it work so well. So I guess we'll see. These two have a lot to disgree about and their current relationship is very artificial so I'm waiting for more. I have to see how this guy interacts with the situation to really get a clearer idea. That part of the puzzle is the biggest one to me. Neither girl has expressed any interest in women yet either. Maybe a longer, slow burn for them? I could see that. There's a lot of steps they need to take though.

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I've heard of cases like that and sadly they definitely do happen. I was simply a little surprised by the assertiveness of some of the students in this story.

Well, it'd be a boring story if the kids just silently pined. :)

Stories don't have to be representative, just somewhat plausible (and not always that, even.)

I do agree though! Student-teacher relationships can make for some really exciting stories, especially when the student is the instigator.

The only thing that I had on my mind was that...

Err...Kuritani san, dating app..in middle high school?

I think I get the whole stories confused and also the names and everything.
This story has drama elements indeed.

Aw I thought Kuritani was going to fall for Nozaki but this is certainly an interesting direction. I think Nozaki was trying to get Kuritani to end up with someone else so she could win her ex back, so now she might have to take Measures to keep them apart...

Aw I thought Kuritani was going to fall for Nozaki but this is certainly an interesting direction. I think Nozaki was trying to get Kuritani to end up with someone else so she could win her ex back, so now she might have to take Measures to keep them apart...

Nozaki can't catch a break ig, and she was just starting to kinda see Kuritani as a friend maybe too D:

oh shit

Ya know there was a chance of this being ok, now I'm not so sure it's gonna work. Blonde can't let go, and glasses is way too naive. Besides her having no reason to know what's going on around her. Rip glasses girl