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Man, people like to read way too much into things...
For me, the problem with all the "red flag" talk I see these days is it kind of ends up holding people to an impossible standard. You have to be perfect, up on a pedestal. Show any signs of feet of clay, bam! You're toxic, full of "red flags". I've been married for nearly 30 years, and neither my wife nor I are perfect in all respects. And sure, we work on getting things right, but also you gotta have some flexibility, you gotta look at things with some benevolence and understanding, let some stuff go.
Yeah being human is messy and relationships are complicated. There will always be ups and downs for each person in a relationship, and a relationship is partly about navigating the bumps in the road both on an individual level and as a couple.
I wouldn't call it a red flag, just both a cheeky reminder and telling the guy to back off without being too mean about it. It wasn't "hey, back off my property bark bark" or whatever, just a casual "hey love, we're dating, right? Right? Thought so, thanks bb" then Mitsuki left. Was charming if anything
Edit: not to mention, also serves as confirmation that they are, in fact, a couple, for people too dense and/or pessimistic to not believe anything the work says unless it's specifically said in speech bubbles by at least one character.
last edited at Aug 24, 2025 9:43PM
I'm probably going to get hated for this, but...
As much as I appreciate Mitsuki's character growth to becoming assertive and confident (and as much as Aya clearly appreciated that little move as well), Mitsuki is still showing facets of jealousy, control, and lack of trust. In real life, these things are huge red flags.
If someone had come up to Mitsuki and asked her about Western music, she would have gone into full "geek mode" and chatted them up non-stop; if said person had done that under the pretense of flirting with her, Mitsuki would not have noticed; she would have been ass-deep in gushing about Eric Clapton and George Harrison 0.38 seconds upon hearing the song playing on his phone. So, for her assume Aya couldn't deal with this shows a rather meaningful lack of trust, and maybe even a bit of projection.
And, considering the meaning of the song... Patti Boyd made her choice, and George Harrison respected it. Mitsuki would know that.
So yeah... I love this comic, I've loved it since the moment I first laid eyes on it, but I can't say I like this particular entry, and I hope it isn't the start of a dark path for Mitsuki.
I mean, I'm not gonna hate you for it, but I do disagree.
Most of Mitsuki's big rizz moments happen because she is unaware of what she's doing. With that being the pattern, it's possible, in fact I'd say probable, that in that moment she went, "Oh, wait, we never actually said we were dating, did we? I better make sure we're on the same page." "Hey, are we?" (Cue Aya's bewildered response) "Okay, cool, awesome, I thought so, that's so great." (blissfully unaware that she just stunted on Ono and announced them to the rest of the class.)
I mean, tell me that's not 100% her modus operandi throughout this entire series.
Yup, THIS. The fact that Mitsuki was so casually "let me confirm that we're dating, and I don't care who overhears it" is so AWESOME. No jealousy, no embarrassment, no shame. Just wholesome and charismatic communication lol
I feel like there is a contradiction between the awkwardness of Mitsuki's jealous interjection and the way it immediately gets turned into an epic aura farming moment for her. Like the "lol they're dumb teenagers stop whining" retort to the "red flag" concerns (which I don't agree with either, to be clear) doesn't make sense to me because the text itself seems to think this was the coolest shit ever. Mitsuki being awkwardly jealous is a cute concept on its face, and of course I understand the potential appeal of a "back off she's mine" moment. The weird part is that this interaction transpires in front of a crowd that reacts with an over-the-top amazement that has become predictable.
This could be partially an effect of the 4-page curse. Maybe there was a time when the series had room for some nuance and a range in emotional intensity, but for a while every chapter has felt the same amount of intense whether it was angsty, happy, or epic. Which might be because the creator feels a pressure to keep the audience stimulated with every chapter. Ironically, the lack of proper highs and lows (in intensity, not mood) makes the end result less stimulating, at least for me.
last edited at Aug 25, 2025 1:36AM
I feel like there is a contradiction between the awkwardness of Mitsuki's jealous interjection and the way it was immediately turned into yet an epic aura farming moment for her. Like to me the "lol they're dumb teenagers stop whining" retort to the "red flag" concerns (which I don't agree with either, to be clear) doesn't make sense because the text itself seems to think this was the coolest shit ever. Mitsuki being awkwardly jealous is a cute concept on its face, the weird part is that the interaction transpired in front of a crowd that reacts with an over-the-top amazement that has become predictable.
This could be partially an effect of the 4-page curse. Maybe there was a time when the series had room for some nuance and a range in emotional intensity, but for a while every chapter has felt the same amount of intense whether it was angsty, happy, or epic. Which might be because the creator feels a pressure to keep the audience stimulated with every chapter. Ironically, the lack of proper highs and lows (in intensity, not mood) makes the end result less stimulating, at least for me.
That's fair, though for me the series is still effective and working well. So I think it's a mileage will vary situation lol
I did not say it was not a matter of taste. I like to think I don't need to couch everything I say into a dozen different caveats and disclaimers, just so nobody assumes that I consider my opinions divinely ordained.
But then reading back, apparently I did soften my comment with several instances of "as for me", so maybe there is no number that would be enough.
last edited at Aug 25, 2025 1:46AM
I did not say it was not a matter of taste. I like to think I don't need to couch everything I say into a dozen different caveats and disclaimers, just so nobody assumes that I consider my opinions divinely ordained.
But then reading back, apparently I did soften my comment with several instances of "as for me", so maybe there is no number that would be enough.
I'm only saying that my opinion differs from yours on the series, and I was trying to word things in a non-confrontational way. You have issues with the series that I don't have, so I'm saying our mileage is varying differently, and I know you stated views in a way that was acknowledging they're your opinions. I don't want to argue with you and I only wanted to share that I respect that you have different views from my mine, and that personally I'm still loving the series myself.
Yup, THIS. The fact that Mitsuki was so casually "let me confirm that we're dating, and I don't care who overhears it" is so AWESOME. No jealousy, no embarrassment, no shame. Just wholesome and charismatic communication lol
Best chapter in the whole series. Best chapter! ♥
What a smooth dork, Mitsuki is! Maybe now that we have confirmation we'll never hear another peep about whether this is actually yuri. (・∀・)
I notice she's still wearing pants to school, too. Also the black nail polish and all the piercings, now that I check again.
He's dumb, she's a lesbian.
Koga just destroyed the minds of every single one of her classmates XD The teacher's gonna come back for afternoon classes and will find them all braindead XD
I was wondering whether they were dating too.
I was wondering whether they were dating too.
I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)
I was wondering whether they were dating too.
I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)
Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.
I was wondering whether they were dating too.
I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)
Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.
I'd say it's definitely important because the chapter reemphasizes how meaningful it is for them. I'd agree. The author seems to know this was a big moment, so I don't fault people for wondering still. Even the chapter title plays with it. Feels like she was speaking for the characters and the audience at the same time.
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Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.
There's no way they hadn't clarified to each other they were dating offscreen before now. Even Joe, Kanna, Narita, Chizuru, Mao and Hime are already in the know going by what they told them and how they've been acting in some of the previous chapters. Aya's mom figured it out too though she did it on her own. Mitsuki asking Aya in this chapter was just to spread it around and prevent others from getting the idea to hit on them.
Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.
There's no way they hadn't clarified to each other they were dating offscreen before now. Even Joe, Kanna, Narita, Chizuru, Mao and Hime are already in the know going by what they told them and how they've been acting in some of the previous chapters. Aya's mom figured it out too though she did it on her own. Mitsuki asking Aya in this chapter was just to spread it around and prevent others from getting the idea to hit on them.
Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.
Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.
I'm not contesting that, I myself wanted to see it and I think the author waited to create a moment that would make it particularly memorable. I'm just arguing that Aya and Mitsuki must've already clarified it between the two of them beforehand, otherwise one could start overthinking this moment and argue that Mitsuki put Aya on the spot without confirming whether she'd want their relationship to be announced publically or not which is clearly not the case.
I was wondering whether they were dating too.
I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)
Situationship
common in yuri stories where communication it's not the characters best lvl. skill
i.e: most yuri works / useless lesbians
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Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.
I'm not contesting that, I myself wanted to see it and I think the author waited to create a moment that would make it particularly memorable. I'm just arguing that Aya and Mitsuki must've already clarified it between the two of them beforehand, otherwise one could start overthinking this moment and argue that Mitsuki put Aya on the spot without confirming whether she'd want their relationship to be announced publically or not which is clearly not the case.
Maybe they did communicate more than we've seen, but without seeing it on-screen we don't know. It's definitely possible but I don't think this chapter makes sense if they already confirmed that they're dating off-screen. Personally I think they basically assumed that they've been dating due to the kiss and mood between them, and that's where the relationship has been at until now. Even if Mitsuki put Aya on the spot a bit here I wouldn't say it's a big deal, since at the very least it seems they both thought they're dating. It's a moment of, we're dating right? Oh yeah we're dating. Maybe it's a little awkward, but life is a little awkward so I don't think it's a big deal or anything bad.
Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.
last edited at Aug 25, 2025 4:00PM
Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.
I'm sure a lot of this depends on the person, I personally find verbal communication and confirmation to be important. That's how I am, especially as someone who over thinks a lot. There's many kinds of relationships and in-between elements, two people can have sex without ever defining exactly what the relationship is. Again for me defining things with words important.
Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.
I'm sure a lot of this depends on the person, I personally find verbal communication and confirmation to be important. That's how I am, especially as someone who over thinks a lot. There's many kinds of relationships and in-between elements, two people can have sex without ever defining exactly what the relationship is. Again for me defining things with words important.
Plenty of relationship issues come from assuming things. It's always good to confirm. I also like that she did that here. To the audience it's clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice. It was a funny way to handle it and reassure the audience at the same time. I know this place couldn't have been the only one with the light hearted "are they official official yet?"
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To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.
Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."