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Hanasakukawaii_small
joined Mar 20, 2014

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)

Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)

Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.

I'd say it's definitely important because the chapter reemphasizes how meaningful it is for them. I'd agree. The author seems to know this was a big moment, so I don't fault people for wondering still. Even the chapter title plays with it. Feels like she was speaking for the characters and the audience at the same time.

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BeanBeanKingdom
Ms_icon
joined Nov 3, 2018

Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.

There's no way they hadn't clarified to each other they were dating offscreen before now. Even Joe, Kanna, Narita, Chizuru, Mao and Hime are already in the know going by what they told them and how they've been acting in some of the previous chapters. Aya's mom figured it out too though she did it on her own. Mitsuki asking Aya in this chapter was just to spread it around and prevent others from getting the idea to hit on them.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Even though that shares overlap with dating you can do those things without dating. That said I do think they've been dating since the Prom kiss, but until now they never actually verbalized it by officially acknowledging that they're dating via verbal communicated confirmation. At least personally I think this is an important step in their relationship.

There's no way they hadn't clarified to each other they were dating offscreen before now. Even Joe, Kanna, Narita, Chizuru, Mao and Hime are already in the know going by what they told them and how they've been acting in some of the previous chapters. Aya's mom figured it out too though she did it on her own. Mitsuki asking Aya in this chapter was just to spread it around and prevent others from getting the idea to hit on them.

Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.

BeanBeanKingdom
Ms_icon
joined Nov 3, 2018

Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.

I'm not contesting that, I myself wanted to see it and I think the author waited to create a moment that would make it particularly memorable. I'm just arguing that Aya and Mitsuki must've already clarified it between the two of them beforehand, otherwise one could start overthinking this moment and argue that Mitsuki put Aya on the spot without confirming whether she'd want their relationship to be announced publically or not which is clearly not the case.

Illustration5
joined Aug 31, 2017

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)

Situationship
common in yuri stories where communication it's not the characters best lvl. skill
i.e: most yuri works / useless lesbians

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Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Anything can happen off-screen, and I think on-screen confirmation is important. Also I think they went with the flow and the mood of the kiss, where they were dating without saying it until now. It seemed obvious to them and the people close to them, but actually saying it outloud now is important in my opinion.

I'm not contesting that, I myself wanted to see it and I think the author waited to create a moment that would make it particularly memorable. I'm just arguing that Aya and Mitsuki must've already clarified it between the two of them beforehand, otherwise one could start overthinking this moment and argue that Mitsuki put Aya on the spot without confirming whether she'd want their relationship to be announced publically or not which is clearly not the case.

Maybe they did communicate more than we've seen, but without seeing it on-screen we don't know. It's definitely possible but I don't think this chapter makes sense if they already confirmed that they're dating off-screen. Personally I think they basically assumed that they've been dating due to the kiss and mood between them, and that's where the relationship has been at until now. Even if Mitsuki put Aya on the spot a bit here I wouldn't say it's a big deal, since at the very least it seems they both thought they're dating. It's a moment of, we're dating right? Oh yeah we're dating. Maybe it's a little awkward, but life is a little awkward so I don't think it's a big deal or anything bad.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.

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Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.

I'm sure a lot of this depends on the person, I personally find verbal communication and confirmation to be important. That's how I am, especially as someone who over thinks a lot. There's many kinds of relationships and in-between elements, two people can have sex without ever defining exactly what the relationship is. Again for me defining things with words important.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Turns out that the concept of "dating," (like that of "NTR" or indeed of "yuri" itself), seems to be as multifaceted and elusively ambiguous as the iridescent color of a butterfly's wing, an enigma only brought into palpable existence by the incantation of the words "we're dating," regardless of how much face-sucking, hand-holding, and generalized mutual togetherness has previously taken place.

I'm sure a lot of this depends on the person, I personally find verbal communication and confirmation to be important. That's how I am, especially as someone who over thinks a lot. There's many kinds of relationships and in-between elements, two people can have sex without ever defining exactly what the relationship is. Again for me defining things with words important.

Plenty of relationship issues come from assuming things. It's always good to confirm. I also like that she did that here. To the audience it's clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice. It was a funny way to handle it and reassure the audience at the same time. I know this place couldn't have been the only one with the light hearted "are they official official yet?"

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joined Jul 29, 2017

To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.

Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.

Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."

Their feelings being clear and them officially dating aren't necessarily the same thing. I don't think anyone thought they didn't like each other. Hearing them verbalize things means something to a lot of people and to Mitsuki, apparently. I love Futaribeya, so I've seen these discussions before. I'm not in the camp that always needs words but I get why people feel that way, especially after all the build up.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.

Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."

Their feelings being clear and them officially dating aren't necessarily the same thing. I don't think anyone thought they didn't like each other. Hearing them verbalize things means something to a lot of people and to Mitsuki, apparently. I love Futaribeya, so I've been in these discussions before.

That was my original question: what exactly does it take for two fictional characters to be considered "officially dating"?

Apparently the answer is: a public announcement consisting of the words, "We are dating."

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.

Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."

Their feelings being clear and them officially dating aren't necessarily the same thing. I don't think anyone thought they didn't like each other. Hearing them verbalize things means something to a lot of people and to Mitsuki, apparently. I love Futaribeya, so I've been in these discussions before.

That was my original question: what exactly does it take for two fictional characters to be considered "officially dating"?

Apparently the answer is: a public announcement consisting of the words, "We are dating."

I don't think it has to be public, a private verbal exchange is also fine. Along with any variety of words that can be used to confirm that they're dating. I thought before that they were a couple and technically dating without saying it, however I do think the verbal confirmation and communication is important. Their relationship is now further defined via an exchange of words where they know for a fact that they are on the same page.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

To the audience is clear what their feelings are but to them the clarity and reassurance is probably nice.

Except for the part of the audience that says, "I wondered if they were dating."

Their feelings being clear and them officially dating aren't necessarily the same thing. I don't think anyone thought they didn't like each other. Hearing them verbalize things means something to a lot of people and to Mitsuki, apparently. I love Futaribeya, so I've been in these discussions before.

That was my original question: what exactly does it take for two fictional characters to be considered "officially dating"?

Apparently the answer is: a public announcement consisting of the words, "We are dating."

I don't think it has to be public, a private verbal exchange is also fine. Along with any variety of words that can be used to confirm that they're dating. I thought before that they were a couple and technically dating without saying it, however I do think the verbal confirmation and communication is important. Their relationship is now further defined via an exchange of words where they know for a fact that they are on the same page.

IDK why people are being difficult about this. It's a lighthearted thing. Now that everyone knows they're dating I wonder if that'll change anything moving forward. The series doesn't have a strong direction right now, right? The move to america is still on the table? I forgot. And the music career? Is that still a strong focus? I'm fine with whatever.

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Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

The move to america is still on the table?

I really hope they don't move to America. I'm sure it would be a fictionalized America that's not falling apart right now...but I still think they should consider their options carefully if they want to leave Japan...

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joined Mar 1, 2023

Yooo homegirl got no filter, loving this so much

Electric%20(1)
joined Jul 15, 2020

My himejin in christ, this is exactly what I was talking about. At WORST these girls were having a situationship while supporting each other emotionally like a partner would. We're supposed to believe neither of them spoke in private about this? Not private away from their friends and classmates, I'll extend it to away from the camera too. If they hadn't already established that, why would Mitsuki be all suave and nonchalant as she left? We know these girls, she would've been doing a whole "YIPPIE!" routine.

joined Jul 8, 2019

Terryrory: marked!

Sun%20jing%20dy-scans
joined Aug 12, 2019

Man, people like to read way too much into things...

eh, this is just another Tuesday

Img_0215
joined Jul 29, 2017

Man, people like to read way too much into things...

eh, this is just another Tuesday

Totally disagree: it’s Monday. Lol

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Man, people like to read way too much into things...

eh, this is just another Tuesday

Totally disagree: it’s Monday. Lol

Brb flying to Japan just so I can say it's Tuesday lol

Touhou%20autismo
joined Nov 2, 2023

Sometimes you just want to clear things up, to put a name on how you feel and have a common ground of understanding in you and and your partner's relationship (and this case, more precisely gf) so you ask if you're dating or a more open couple or whatever the hell floats your boat so no one gets hurt by a misunderstanding
When you care about someone you do that

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