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BoredLittleShit
joined Jun 5, 2025

Kinda awkward in some parts but Ill continue it

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BoredLittleShit
joined Jun 5, 2025

by the way, as a trans woman myself, reading all these comments is incredibly depressing. this is so obviously a trans story but yall will clamber over yourselves to try and explain why it's actually not and actually Japanese people are sooo stupid and they dont know anything about transgender and this is just another crossdressing cis man so actually its not even yuri. fucking go somewhere else then how about.

I honestly wonder which is worse, the transphobia or racism

joined Jun 11, 2021

the girls love tag was removed from the mangadex listing. please dont remove the yuri tag from this one, unless the rest of the series goes in a VERY different direction from what this chapter sets up. she literally states up front that she wants to be a girl, she gets reincarnated into what is essentially a pre-op transfem body, and is extremely distressed when she realizes she still has a penis. she's a girl.

i'll admit the last panel has me a bit nervous, feels like it'll be a case of a girl in an all girl's school who will be really excited to finally see a "man's" body so, depending on how that all moves forward this might end up sucking but for now i choose to have hope. maybe the mc will say, after much soul-searching, "i know i have a man's body and that's why you're interested in me but i'm actually really a girl and want to be treated as such" or some shit

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joined Jun 11, 2021

I feel like some people are missing the point why some of us are concerned about this manga

There's no denying the MC is trans, but the concerning part comes from how the author treats the character and the theme.
Like, shit, that body dysphoria scene for a bit was emotional and showed potential for a compelling trans narrative, but then it throws me off with a complete tonal shift into playing it off as a joke. I think there could've been other ways to make it comedic than the girl suggesting to "take a closer look" into the thing that's giving the MC dysphoria as they speak.
Even though the MC is definitely (intentionally by the author or not) trans, the narrative itself fails to satisfy the theming - because it doesn't present it as a serious potential arc the MC might go through, but rather something that they can make fun of.

And having the girl actively be curious when she mistakes the MC for a "boy" is a weird choice if the author truly meant this to be a trans yuri story. If this was "you are a girl but you have a penis?" it would be different, but the situation is instead that she thinks the MC is a guy cuz they have a penis and wants to inspect their body. Very creepy and transphobic, not to mention very off-tone for a supposed yuri plotline.

So it turns off trans people because our experience is played for gags, it turns off yuri fans because the supposed love interest's first big scene is inspecting what she thinks is a boy's body - so my question now is who tf is this for???

this is totally fair, hard to say if it's a case of overt transphobia or bad writing honestly. until we get more material to go off of i'm trying to give it the benefit of the doubt but yeah it could very easily go badly

joined May 21, 2016

I think crossdressing manga often exist in a sort of superposition where they're clearly trans but don't say so explicitly, presumably to avoid alienating a transphobic audience. That said, I can't say I recall many that are "very aggressively not [trans]"; most of the time they more sort of leave it ambiguous, like Prunus Girl, Koisuru Otome no Tsukurikata, or Misaki-kun wa Kouryaku Chara Janai. (Most of the time the crossdressing character's love interest is a cis boy too.) I don't expect the protagonist of this manga to explicitly say "I'm trans" or anything like that, but I think it's reasonable to expect her to enjoy living and being accepted as a girl, which is good enough for me. I don't think it's particularly useful to speculate about "what we're supposed to see the character as"; if the most natural interpretation of the character is that they're trans, then the character is trans as far as I'm concerned.

I'd argue all three of those are of the aggressively not trans category. Especially Koisuru Otome no Tsukurikata. But if some people enjoy reading it that way I can't stop them. But I think we should still be honest about what's being written, just so we don't get others hopes up, at the very least.

I guess I don't understand what you mean by "aggressively." Especially Prunus Girl I'd say is extremely open to a trans reading.

All of those works say and reaffirm constantly that the crossdressing characters are males who identify as such. There's no ambiguity.
Those series are as open to a trans reading as every other story in existence

Gay%20panic
joined Sep 11, 2020

Your reading comprehension must be in the same level of a twitter user if you think anyone here is being transphobic

This post is literally only a couple of posts under an admin going "Slurs against trans people are not allowed here. I'm deleting some posts that are overtly transphobic"

Where's YOUR reading comprehension, dog???

joined Sep 7, 2020

At least you should just remove the "yuri" tag and we're done
I'm not even say that I'm transphobic and my comment still get deleted what???

Eri
joined Aug 30, 2020

At least you should just remove the "yuri" tag and we're done
I'm not even say that I'm transphobic and my comment still get deleted what???

Trans women are women, even in the eyes of yuri. There is no reason to remove the Yuri tag

joined Sep 7, 2020

At least you should just remove the "yuri" tag and we're done
I'm not even say that I'm transphobic and my comment still get deleted what???

Trans women are women, even in the eyes of yuri. There is no reason to remove the Yuri tag

Which yuri are you talking about?

Eri
joined Aug 30, 2020

At least you should just remove the "yuri" tag and we're done
I'm not even say that I'm transphobic and my comment still get deleted what???

Trans women are women, even in the eyes of yuri. There is no reason to remove the Yuri tag

Which yuri are you talking about?

This manga, the manga titled "I Reincarnated as the Heroine in a Yuri Game, but for Some Reason That Thing was Still There," in which the protagonist has become the Heroine of a yuri game as per the title. The Heroine being a woman who in this instance just happens to have That Thing.

The premise implies yuri will happen, and that presumably means the tag will remain until proven otherwise

Eri
joined Aug 30, 2020

Dont quote the blatant transphobia.

Gay%20panic
joined Sep 11, 2020

This thread is literally just this.

People just walking past 5 straight pages of trans people going "This is a story about a trans woman because this, this, and this" and a bunch of, as far as I can tell, cis people going "No it's not" as if that wins them argument points.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

This thread is literally just this.

People just walking past 5 straight pages of trans people going "This is a story about a trans woman because this, this, and this" and a bunch of, as far as I can tell, cis people going "No it's not" as if that wins them argument points.

Some of the commenters who have shared their concerns about how the manga might handle sensitive issues were trans. While some recent comments have been insensitive (and increasingly weird), most of the earlier ones came from a place of caution, which I think is reasonable.

Disagreements about the story's sincerity shouldn't be a litmus test. In 1 chapter, everyone is genuinely trying to predict where the story might go, and many stories start one way that seems just as "obvious" but veer in another direction, especially series similar to this one's opening. As long as it's respectful, I don't see the issue with having different perspectives here.

Having said that and after reading further into the series I also agree with others and believe the author is sincere, so I no longer have any of my previous concerns. It's cute, though it has some rougher parts so far. I'm more excited to continue now, even if it still has some aspects I'm not a fan of. I will say, though, that most of the Japanese comments I've seen who enjoy the series do not have the same perspective (for what it's worth). It does have an English release if people were unaware.

It's also complicated because the author said it looks like yuri but is not yuri, and repeated that twice. That could be because of how "yuri" is used in Japan and the sensitivity around it. Still, I thought it should be mentioned.

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Nq9nh0qj
joined Oct 25, 2023

It's not what the character says about themselves but how the author portrays it what is the problem. And so far nothing the character has said screams "I'm a girl!" at all, they don't see themselves as a girl.

"If only I could abandon this body and be reborn as a beautiful girl..."

"Goddammit! I hate this! Even though I finally look like my ideal self!"

Guess I'll bring this comment back to the current page from way back on page 2. These pages in particular clearly paint our MC as a trans woman. Whether the author made the character trans intentionally or by accident is something that will likely become more clear in future chapters.

joined Apr 16, 2022

I guess I don't understand what you mean by "aggressively." Especially Prunus Girl I'd say is extremely open to a trans reading.

All of those works say and reaffirm constantly that the crossdressing characters are males who identify as such. There's no ambiguity.
Those series are as open to a trans reading as every other story in existence

I would say that a story about a "male" who frequently or exclusively wears women's clothing and enjoys doing so is perhaps more open to a trans reading than most stories lol. But I'll stop pressing the point because, unlike the protagonist here, none of those characters explicitly express that they want to be a girl.

Even though the MC is definitely (intentionally by the author or not) trans, the narrative itself fails to satisfy the theming - because it doesn't present it as a serious potential arc the MC might go through, but rather something that they can make fun of.

There have been several people in this thread who've argued that the MC is not trans. Those are the only people I take issue with. If your concern is whether the manga will treat the trans themes well, I think that's valid. I personally don't expect it to be anything more than a dumb comedy lol so my expectations are calibrated accordingly.

joined May 21, 2016

I guess I don't understand what you mean by "aggressively." Especially Prunus Girl I'd say is extremely open to a trans reading.

All of those works say and reaffirm constantly that the crossdressing characters are males who identify as such. There's no ambiguity.
Those series are as open to a trans reading as every other story in existence

I would say that a story about a "male" who frequently or exclusively wears women's clothing and enjoys doing so is perhaps more open to a trans reading than most stories lol. But I'll stop pressing the point because, unlike the protagonist here, none of those characters explicitly express that they want to be a girl.

Even though the MC is definitely (intentionally by the author or not) trans, the narrative itself fails to satisfy the theming - because it doesn't present it as a serious potential arc the MC might go through, but rather something that they can make fun of.

There have been several people in this thread who've argued that the MC is not trans. Those are the only people I take issue with. If your concern is whether the manga will treat the trans themes well, I think that's valid. I personally don't expect it to be anything more than a dumb comedy lol so my expectations are calibrated accordingly.

Clothes don't define gender. The way one chooses to express themselves isn't exclusively related and does not limit the way one can identify themselves.
A man who wear feminine clothing is a man who wears feminine clothing.
Even the protagonist here doesn't want to be a girl, he wants to be a Yuri heroine, a Moe existence

JeansWithPockets
joined Nov 24, 2023

It does have an English release if people were unaware.

Could you link please? I searched for it but couldn't find one.

D05536d6-01d1-4527-9102-4cc772fad5ed
joined Jul 6, 2020

Its funny how much a single chapter of a pretty simple comedy is just breaking peoples brains.

People will twist themselves into all sorts of insane logical pretzels to avoid ever acknowledging a character as trans. We've now come to the radical conclusion that a "yuri heroine" actually cant be a woman, but is in fact a "moe existence". And of course we rehash the same tired arguments about how "erm akshully femboys are radical and cool and trans women are conformist/evil".

I for one am looking forward to more of this series.

joined Jul 26, 2024

Not that anyone asked my opinion, but... if a reader, based on chapter 1, is going to be extremely upset if the story doesn't develop a certain way or handle specific topics in a particular way, it would prudent to stop reading now. It's fiction; no one is forcing you to read this and suffer.

At the very least, come back after a dozen or so chapters are released and check if it's a good fit for you.

Personally I am comfortable both reading stories about people of different gender identities and orientations, as well as with quitting if it ever crosses the line for me on how it handles topics. A cis male teenager who aspires to be more like a kind and confident heroine would also be a development I'd appreciate seeing more in fiction, assuming that turns out to really be author's intent.

@SrNevik

Light spoiler stuff

Well, that's encouraging, but not necessarily surprising. I've found alignment on language issues and categorization isn't a good predictor people's level of prejudice toward minority groups. Some people are completely clueless, but listen and adjust their behavior. Other people's words are beyond reproach despite their harmful behavior when it counts.

My expectations of language alignment are even lower for a foreigner speaking a different language and coming from a different social context. Despite that, so far nothing has been mean. The humor more focused on the absurdity of the type of situations MC experiences, like being labeled "the legendary delinquent Oniwatari" when they are really a shy person who wishes they could put others at ease. MC has even been framed as someone who deserves to be protected. This type of design invites sympathy from the reader without making the topics feel too dark and discouraging.

If it continues with this tone, I won't have any issue with that aspect. Not everyone will be okay these situations being used for humor, but it's similar in structure to how many real people use humor to process difficult experiences.

Whether the story and characters will be good is another question. It's funny how little discussion of that there's been.

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joined Feb 25, 2025

It's also complicated because the author said it looks like yuri but is not yuri, and repeated that twice. That could be because of how "yuri" is used in Japan and the sensitivity around it. Still, I thought it should be mentioned.

I hope this doesn’t sound rude but what do you mean with the sensitivity around it in Japan?
I mean the term -in Japan- is used for any gxg relationship, from ambiguous relationship, close friendships to confirmed lovers. I would say that people in the west are far more restrictive with it.

So the fact that the author and readers don’t see this as Yuri means that they don’t see our FL as a girl. (and with readers I obviously don’t mean trans people tired of ambiguity or people genuinely worried about how the narrative is going to handle her transness)

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1pixel
joined Dec 3, 2010

My thought on this manga is:

-- it seems that through this manga, soul is made up as "man" or "woman". In this case, the 'girl's soul happens to 'trap' inside the man's body, and she happens to be a lesbian.

-- So when he becomes the ideal girl that he wants to be, he gets excited and happy because he can now become who he wants to be, but is shocked that there's still a male part that he couldn't get rid of.

-- I sincerely believe that this guy here has a "soul" of a girl who likes girl because he yearns to have a female body. If he's truly a cis man, instead of praying for a female body, he would be extremely proud of his body and his male part. He wouldn't need to change his body as a girl to fall for another girl.

-- And also, a cis "man" dislikes to have lesbians to have relationship because look at the real world: they would definitely complain that they are too lonely and that they don't have female companion because of...(Just my two cents)

-- Oh and according to observation through Twitter/X, a cis man would say something like "you didn't like men? That's because you haven't found the "one" yet something like that..and would work extremely hard just to "straighten lesbian" . But in this case, the protagonist said "he wants to be a girl so that he could fall for a girl ". I believe he has the "Yuri heart" in a male body

-- Yes, I think this manga does touches topic about trans. I think this might be how trans feel about their body.

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543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

It does have an English release if people were unaware.

Could you link please? I searched for it but couldn't find one.

Here it is. It's on Coolmic.

It's also complicated because the author said it looks like yuri but is not yuri, and repeated that twice. That could be because of how "yuri" is used in Japan and the sensitivity around it. Still, I thought it should be mentioned.

I hope this doesn’t sound rude but what do you mean with the sensitivity around it in Japan?
I mean the term -in Japan- is used for any gxg relationship, from ambiguous relationship, close friendships to confirmed lovers. I would say that people in the west are far more restrictive with it.

So the fact that the author and readers don’t see this as Yuri means that they don’t see our FL as a girl. (and with readers I obviously don’t mean trans people tired of ambiguity or people genuinely worried about how the narrative is going to handle her transness)

There are many instances I've seen where certain Japanese fans will have a, let's say, odd attitude about accepting trans women as part of yuri. My point was that the author might be sincere in their depiction of a trans character, but be wary of how they use the term "yuri," so as not to deal with any issues around audience expectations. Hence, the "it's not but it is" response they give. I'm not as concerned with random Japanese comments. They are not any better than random English comments.

This series is officially tagged as yuri on its home site, and the author seems to primarily make yuri series. Also, based on my reading of the future chapters, I would call this clearly yuri.

I've seen authors avoid using the term "yuri" in many series that are very obviously girls' love. Even "The Green Yuri" author has avoided using the term and discussed being uncomfortable with the expectations of it for her series. We would not question that one, right? I would not say the term is less restrictive in Japan; based on my experience, it's the opposite, because for some, it seems to come with some expectations beyond just involving women.

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joined May 21, 2016

Its funny how much a single chapter of a pretty simple comedy is just breaking peoples brains.

People will twist themselves into all sorts of insane logical pretzels to avoid ever acknowledging a character as trans. We've now come to the radical conclusion that a "yuri heroine" actually cant be a woman, but is in fact a "moe existence". And of course we rehash the same tired arguments about how "erm akshully femboys are radical and cool and trans women are conformist/evil".

I for one am looking forward to more of this series.

Being a woman is different from being a manga heroine. Someone desiring to become the character in a manga wants the experiences, pleasures and circumstance the character has, they don't want to change their identity they want to change their whole existence, they want to escape the real world.
Wanting to become a Moe girl is not the same as having an emotional, psychological, physical need to become the other gender, because that's who you truly are. A trans woman is a woman, someone who want to be acknowledge and perceived as a woman, because this is their true self. They don't want to be woman because "women are cool" or because they think this will improve their lives, they want that because if they can't be that they can't be themselves, it's the same need a cis man/woman have to be their own gender.
Saying that a character wanting to be a Yuri heroine is the same as them being trans dilutes and diminishes the meaning of transexuality, gender dysphoria and gender reassignment, it opens space for the idea that trans people aren't the gender they identify as they just want to be part of it for ulterior reasons.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Its funny how much a single chapter of a pretty simple comedy is just breaking peoples brains.

People will twist themselves into all sorts of insane logical pretzels to avoid ever acknowledging a character as trans. We've now come to the radical conclusion that a "yuri heroine" actually cant be a woman, but is in fact a "moe existence". And of course we rehash the same tired arguments about how "erm akshully femboys are radical and cool and trans women are conformist/evil".

I for one am looking forward to more of this series.

They don't want to be woman because "women are cool" or because they think this will improve their lives, they want that because if they can't be that they can't be themselves, it's the same need a cis man/woman have to be their own gender.

The series tries addressing this. I would just let chapters release and see how you feel then.

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joined May 21, 2016

My thought on this manga is:

-- it seems that through this manga, soul is made up as "man" or "woman". In this case, the 'girl's soul happens to 'trap' inside the man's body, and she happens to be a lesbian.

-- So when he becomes the ideal girl that he wants to be, he gets excited and happy because he can now become who he wants to be, but is shocked that there's still a male part that he couldn't get rid of.

-- I sincerely believe that this guy here has a "soul" of a girl who likes girl because he yearns to have a female body. If he's truly a cis man, instead of praying for a female body, he would be extremely proud of his body and his male part. He wouldn't need to change his body as a girl to fall for another girl.

-- And also, a cis "man" dislikes to have lesbians to have relationship because look at the real world: they would definitely complain that they are too lonely and that they don't have female companion because of...(Just my two cents)

-- Oh and according to observation through Twitter/X, a cis man would say something like "you didn't like men? That's because you haven't found the "one" yet something like that..and would work extremely hard just to "straighten lesbian" . But in this case, the protagonist said "he wants to be a girl so that he could fall for a girl ". I believe he has the "Yuri heart" in a male body

-- Yes, I think this manga does touches topic about trans. I think this might be how trans feel about their body.

You're too biased, there are many men into Yuri. 60% of the readers of Yurihime are men

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