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So, the girl is only pretending to be a thrall of the vampire girl? I called it!
Because that was the most adorable route!
EXACTLY, I've thought this way the whole time, and this chapter just confirmed it, she's into goth things and Vampire-sama being there felt like fate to her, and she went along with it because it let her experience the things she loves most. :D
Not sure how this chapter confirms anything. Still looks very brainwashed, sudden fixation after a bite? She realized all that epiphany just after seconds of encounter?
More like that’s just how vampire magic works, draw out their strongest feelings toward you
Lotta people expect (perhaps even require) F/F relationships in fiction to be morally pure due to the absence of men, so here too they convinced themselves from chapter 1 that the mind control was going to be a fakeout. So now they look for signs that suggest that the human girl has bamboozled the vampire (which might be true to some extent), and ignore the data points that suggest that the enthrallment was successful.
I admit I may have the opposite disposition (I tend to look for signs that the yuri is 'impure'), but I think vampire yuri is one of those areas where the more neutral observer who understands that enthrallment is a classic vampire ability -present in famous early examples of vampire fiction- would err on the side of questioning the consent of any human characters when enthrallment is invoked. Combine that with an author who has a history of writing dubcon in yuri, and the odds of the enthrallment being a total dud are not looking good.
last edited at Apr 6, 2025 9:13AM
So, the girl is only pretending to be a thrall of the vampire girl? I called it!
Because that was the most adorable route!
EXACTLY, I've thought this way the whole time, and this chapter just confirmed it, she's into goth things and Vampire-sama being there felt like fate to her, and she went along with it because it let her experience the things she loves most. :D
Not sure how this chapter confirms anything. Still looks very brainwashed, sudden fixation after a bite? She realized all that epiphany just after seconds of encounter?
More like that’s just how vampire magic works, draw out their strongest feelings toward you
Lotta people expect (perhaps even require) F/F relationships in fiction to be morally pure due to the absence of men, so here too they convinced themselves from chapter 1 that the mind control was going to be a fakeout. So now they look for signs that suggest that the human girl has bamboozled the vampire (which might be true to some extent), and ignore the data points that suggest that the enthrallment was successful.
I admit I may have the opposite disposition (I tend to look for signs that the yuri is 'impure'), but I think vampire yuri is one of those areas where the more neutral observer who understands that enthrallment is a classic vampire ability -present in famous early examples of vampire fiction- would err on the side of questioning the consent of any human characters when enthrallment is invoked. Combine that with an author who has a history of writing dubcon in yuri, and the odds of the enthrallment being a total dud are not looking good.
When I said 'this chapter confirms' the theory, I didn’t mean it as a definitive statement just that I was enthusiastic about the idea, I apologize I realize that wasn’t very clear. I’m not against the concept of "pure" or "impure" yuri. I was simply putting a theory out there based on what I was able to analyze from the chapter.
I noticed that Aihara has a liking for gothic things, and when she was bitten by the vampire, she seemed unusually aware of what was happening. That opens up the possibility that she may have been playing along with vampire-sama.
Another theory is that the vampiric effect was present from the beginning, but Aihara remains self-aware, she just responds intensely when a command is given.
I’m not trying to convince myself that the mind-control aspect doesn’t exist, and I’m fully aware the author has explored dubcon themes in yuri before. I’m not trying to downplay anything that could reasonably be interpreted as such. I’m just genuinely invested in how the series might unfold and whether or not these theories will come into play. :)
last edited at Apr 6, 2025 11:49AM
So, the girl is only pretending to be a thrall of the vampire girl? I called it!
Because that was the most adorable route!
EXACTLY, I've thought this way the whole time, and this chapter just confirmed it, she's into goth things and Vampire-sama being there felt like fate to her, and she went along with it because it let her experience the things she loves most. :D
Not sure how this chapter confirms anything. Still looks very brainwashed, sudden fixation after a bite? She realized all that epiphany just after seconds of encounter?
More like that’s just how vampire magic works, draw out their strongest feelings toward you
Lotta people expect (perhaps even require) F/F relationships in fiction to be morally pure due to the absence of men, so here too they convinced themselves from chapter 1 that the mind control was going to be a fakeout. So now they look for signs that suggest that the human girl has bamboozled the vampire (which might be true to some extent), and ignore the data points that suggest that the enthrallment was successful.
I admit I may have the opposite disposition (I tend to look for signs that the yuri is 'impure'), but I think vampire yuri is one of those areas where the more neutral observer who understands that enthrallment is a classic vampire ability -present in famous early examples of vampire fiction- would err on the side of questioning the consent of any human characters when enthrallment is invoked. Combine that with an author who has a history of writing dubcon in yuri, and the odds of the enthrallment being a total dud are not looking good.
When I said 'this chapter confirms' the theory, I didn’t mean it as a definitive statement just that I was enthusiastic about the idea, I apologize I realize that wasn’t very clear. I’m not against the concept of "pure" or "impure" yuri. I was simply putting a theory out there based on what I was able to analyze from the chapter.
I noticed that Aihara has a liking for gothic things, and when she was bitten by the vampire, she seemed unusually aware of what was happening. That opens up the possibility that she may have been playing along with vampire-sama.
Another theory is that the vampiric effect was present from the beginning, but Aihara remains self-aware, she just responds intensely when a command is given.
I’m not trying to convince myself that the mind-control aspect doesn’t exist, and I’m fully aware the author has explored dubcon themes in yuri before. I’m not trying to downplay anything that could reasonably be interpreted as such. I’m just genuinely invested in how the series might unfold and whether or not these theories will come into play. :)
Personally I don't like mind control not because of purity and so fourth but rather simply personal reasons. That said I'm entirely aware it's an aspect of vampire media, and I'm curious to how this will play it. Also I think it's fun when a character is playing along but not actually mind controlled, they retain their agency, on top of creating an interesting dynamic with the other character. That's just my preference and the kind of outcome I enjoy most.
When I said 'this chapter confirms' the theory, I didn’t mean it as a definitive statement just that I was enthusiastic about the idea, I apologize I realize that wasn’t very clear. I’m not against the concept of "pure" or "impure" yuri. I was simply putting a theory out there based on what I was able to analyze from the chapter.
I noticed that Aihara has a liking for gothic things, and when she was bitten by the vampire, she seemed unusually aware of what was happening. That opens up the possibility that she may have been playing along with vampire-sama.
Another theory is that the vampiric effect was present from the beginning, but Aihara remains self-aware, she just responds intensely when a command is given.
I’m not trying to convince myself that the mind-control aspect doesn’t exist, and I’m fully aware the author has explored dubcon themes in yuri before. I’m not trying to downplay anything that could reasonably be interpreted as such. I’m just genuinely invested in how the series might unfold and whether or not these theories will come into play. :)
I was mostly referring to comments earlier chapters received and fandom tendencies in general, so I did not mean to personally criticize you or anyone else. You also said nothing hurtful, so an apology was not necessary! But I appreciate that you clarified your thoughts.
I felt like it was fair to take some shots at this tendency in fandom to project purity on yuri (and then being outraged when it's dispelled) in relation to this series because hypnosis and mind control are very rarely present in works uploaded to this site, and I assumed that a lot of people here are unfamiliar with it as a taboo theme, and expecting a fakeout, are inclined to ignore the warning. But yes, not everyone who speculates about a fakeout is compelled by the 'yuri=pure' bias.
Thinking about it a little more, I honestly expect to eat my words earlier. Not because the evidence for a fakeout is compelling, but because to imagine even a dubcon yuri afficionado like Teren Mikami committing to mind altering effects (even partially or by leaving the exact extent of it ambiguous) feels a bit naive. If this story crosses over to erotica like Arioto did, then the odds improve a little, but otherwise... Well, maybe it's okay to hope for a miracle.
Personally I don't like mind control not because of purity and so fourth but rather simply personal reasons. That said I'm entirely aware it's an aspect of vampire media, and I'm curious to how this will play it. Also I think it's fun when a character is playing along but not actually mind controlled, they retain their agency, on top of creating an interesting dynamic with the other character. That's just my preference and the kind of outcome I enjoy most.
People have the right to dislike anything for any reason of course, I just don't get what someone who doesn't like mind control as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction would get out of a story clearly invoking mind control in this context (not just as a throwaway gag but as part of the basis of the relationship) and then walking it back completely.
In my case, mind control when it's merely imperfect creates a unique opportunity to play with a character's agency, both as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction and in general. A character, knowing that their head was messed with, trying to puzzle out which of their thoughts and motivations are their own and which are not, is fascinating to me.
But if the mind control is just straight up, 100% ineffective... There are ways for that to make a character dynamic interesting in some genres, like if this asymmetry of information between the characters carries serious stakes or is mined for comedy, but in a "self-indulgent" yuri manga like this, I find it kind of stale. And this vampire girl is already so loser-coded, I don't see the appeal in defanging her completely by revealing the vampire ability she's been trying to use is a joke too. Even the most famous 'loser girl magnet' Hitori Gotoh is allowed to be good at one thing (besides attracting girls).
last edited at Apr 8, 2025 1:05PM
When I said 'this chapter confirms' the theory, I didn’t mean it as a definitive statement just that I was enthusiastic about the idea, I apologize I realize that wasn’t very clear. I’m not against the concept of "pure" or "impure" yuri. I was simply putting a theory out there based on what I was able to analyze from the chapter.
I noticed that Aihara has a liking for gothic things, and when she was bitten by the vampire, she seemed unusually aware of what was happening. That opens up the possibility that she may have been playing along with vampire-sama.
Another theory is that the vampiric effect was present from the beginning, but Aihara remains self-aware, she just responds intensely when a command is given.
I’m not trying to convince myself that the mind-control aspect doesn’t exist, and I’m fully aware the author has explored dubcon themes in yuri before. I’m not trying to downplay anything that could reasonably be interpreted as such. I’m just genuinely invested in how the series might unfold and whether or not these theories will come into play. :)I was mostly referring to comments earlier chapters received and fandom tendencies in general, so I did not mean to personally criticize you or anyone else. You also said nothing hurtful, so an apology was not necessary! But I appreciate that you clarified your thoughts.
I felt like it was fair to take some shots at this tendency in fandom to project purity on yuri (and then being outraged when it's dispelled) in relation to this series because hypnosis and mind control are very rarely present in works uploaded to this site, and I assumed that a lot of people here are unfamiliar with it as a taboo theme, and expecting a fakeout, are inclined to ignore the warning. But yes, not everyone who speculates about a fakeout is compelled by the 'yuri=pure' bias.
Thinking about it a little more, I honestly expect to eat my words earlier. Not because the evidence for a fakeout is compelling, but because to imagine even a dubcon yuri afficionado like Teren Mikami committing to mind altering effects (even partially or by leaving the exact extent of it ambiguous) feels a bit naive. If this story crosses over to erotica like Arioto did, then the odds improve a little, but otherwise... Well, maybe it's okay to hope for a miracle.
Personally I don't like mind control not because of purity and so fourth but rather simply personal reasons. That said I'm entirely aware it's an aspect of vampire media, and I'm curious to how this will play it. Also I think it's fun when a character is playing along but not actually mind controlled, they retain their agency, on top of creating an interesting dynamic with the other character. That's just my preference and the kind of outcome I enjoy most.
People have the right to dislike anything for any reason of course, I just don't get what someone who doesn't like mind control as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction would get out of a story clearly invoking mind control in this context (not just as a throwaway gag but as part of the basis of the relationship) and then walking it back completely.
In my case, mind control when it's merely imperfect creates a unique opportunity to play with a character's agency, both as a relationship theme in lesbian fiction and in general. A character, knowing that their head was messed with, trying to puzzle out which of their thoughts and motivations are their own and which are not, is fascinating to me.
But if the mind control is just straight up, 100% ineffective... There are ways for that to make a character dynamic interesting in some genres, like if this asymmetry of information between the characters carries serious stakes or is mined for comedy, but in a "self-indulgent" yuri manga like this, I find it kind of stale. And this vampire girl is already so loser-coded, I don't see the appeal in defanging her completely by revealing the vampire ability she's been trying to use is a joke too. Even the most famous 'loser girl magnet' Hitori Gotoh is allowed to be good at one thing (besides attracting girls).
To each their own. From what I'm understanding here you have your reasons for enjoying mind control and themes around it, which fair enough. I'm merely saying that I personally dislike the removal of agency so I prefer it when it's a fake out, for simply personal reasons and so I'm not here to argue about it being unethical was my point. I'm here to see what happens with the story and where it goes, not to tell the author what they should write, or other people what they should like. I'll leave it at that.
I find Aihara’s backstory really interesting, given everything but not quite what she wants, almost coerced to this idea of resigned acceptance and lack of agency. This feeling of very many but not much.
Is there a term for this? It feels like a relatively common problem but I don’t remember seeing it anywhere else.
Oh boy here we go, I knew based on the title we'd be going this direction but blehhh
Wakana is down catastrophic for her childhood friend too, I see, I see.
Girl you can't just go comparing a girl to a cassowary. That is rude!
I like the new girl
For once I would like to read some yuri manga devoid of a short haired angry bitch trying to ruin things.
For once.
Apparently has no agency, but also has the vampire and childhood friend both in a destructive orbit around her. She likely has an accurate read on her childhood friend who has been crushing from a distance as well as knows what buttons to press to get the vampire on her back foot.
last edited at Apr 18, 2025 7:32PM
The new girl is cute
Gonna bet Ruruna won't turn her into a thrall.
So Wakana wasn't actually under thrall. Interesting. This story has been really funny. I'd probably will keep reading this although now after chapter 7 I feel there's a chance it's going to be harem like people predicted. I have nothing against yuri harem and I read some works on it but it's just not my preference for yuri. Added maybe with whiplash from liking isekai genre world building and getting disappointed most of the time with it turned into harem.
Huh...Interesting series, cute silly and light hearted so far. I hope to see more XD
Check author: Minori Chigusa and Teren Mikami???? Hmm...Wonder why this manga is has both of these authors listed, minor system error mistake on this site or are they working together to make this series (Like one of them being the artist while the other being the author/idea plot person??)
You know I enjoy most of Teren Mikami's series very much [Excluding for 100 days...Don't ask me why I don't like that series, I don't want to argue with people and give a 10 pages paper explaining my thoughts. Most people seems to like it and some dislike it. I respect other people tastes, I just personally didn't enjoy it...]
Our vampire MC...She is basically a girl failure vampire noob despite living for close to 400 years...I am amazed by her innocence and ditzy personality despite living so long (Including her meager lack of social and economic power...You would think you have at least a few $100,000s saved up from working part-time jobs for 40-50years while using fake IDs then changing your identity every dozen years when moving to new locations to avoid suspicion...Our Vampire MC must have slept for like 100s years to be so innocent and silly or was sheltered under vampire society before trying to go off on her own...Meh we are probably overthinking this like some comments said before...Author put that big number in to make it look cool and didn't think too hard on how a 400years of living would affect someone's personality. XD)
Wakana...Yes she is being somewhat mind-control...Technically under Thrall (10% thralled and 90% desire and free will...Rich girl is not some mindless puppet that cannot act on her own)...but also technically not in my opinion and some opinion of other people...Basically Wakana is following our Vampire MC out of her own free will power...I am pretty sure by all the previous comments everyone already guessed that. Our Vampire MC is a newbie at biting humans and turning them into her thralls...Basically she know the basic theory but has none of the practical experience (Knowing how to drive a car but no driving experience. I feel like there is a 'minor' compulsion force but Wakana can probably fight against it or easily use the order to her advantage.)
Our poor stupid silly girl failure vampire MC...She just wants to be popular kid and live a rich girl happy lifestyle..Look at the run down apartment she is living in!!! (Main Reason she want to go to school and reason why she choose Rich girl as her first victim[Hopefully only victim]- basking in the attention of other students while rich girl/Wakana is fawning over MC).
10,000 years imprisonment for biting a human and turning them into a thrall...Wow...That is fking harsh sentence...How long do vampires even live? Vampires do not want to deal with humanity + Vampire hunter that badly huh...Such a harsh punishment is probably to set a example to avoid a possible conflict again...Guess they are struck drinking Tomato juice, hunting animals and human blood packs from hospitals...
Okay...Hopefully Yui isn't going to join MC's possible future harem as a thrall and it's will be just a cute pure silly lovely dovey romance story between Ruruna and Wakana...I place my bet on it!!! Yui finds out but will not become a thrall (Instincts tell me I might be wrong but I betting that I am not~ XD)!!!
With the parents being doctors there's 1% chance she's in the plot to help "cure" the enthrallment (by manga-logic if the parents are docs the kids now medical things, so). But that'd probably be too much story so ... I rather expect her to end up getting bitten too.
Huh...Interesting series, cute silly and light hearted so far. I hope to see more XD
Check author: Minori Chigusa and Teren Mikami???? Hmm...Wonder why this manga is has both of these authors listed, minor system error mistake on this site or are they working together to make this series (Like one of them being the artist while the other being the author/idea plot person??)
Teren Mikami is exclusively a writer and Minori Chigusa is doing the art.
Also side note, we made a minor mistake regarding the new character's name, it's read as Yura instead of Yui, which has now been fixed.
last edited at Apr 19, 2025 4:02AM
Hm. Wakana appears to sincerely believe that Ruruna's bite is capable of putting people under thrall. It seems that she might not be aware that she isn't under thrall herself.
“All she did was call me ‘master’ in the classroom and show off a little when we were together”
Oh yes, because randomly calling a girl you’ve never spoken to “Master” and being close with her is completely normal human behavior… dummy
Ruruna is FUCKED man! No one is gonna forget a scene like that, they prolly think she’s a bully or something
it's read as Yura instead of Yui
Split the difference and call her Yuri.
start of the harem?