Fuck, sabu is selling me the ship sayaka and her gf very well, really good ship, I want to see more

https://x.com/ichijinshaevent/status/1821380814954705333

Special merch for Yuzu and Mei's birthday.

The shirts are neat

I think Mei is just playing and she will leave Yuzu some day. I think she see Yuzu as a source of comfort for her but she not really in love with her the way Yuzu is in love with her in love with her. I mean she been with Yuzu so long so of course she will likes her in some way but I don't think she got any real feelings for. I don't say she will leave Yuzu for Arata but there is no doubt that she will eventually grow tired of playing her own "game" and will have to tell Yu the truth about how she truly feel.

They get married. We're just leading up to Mei and Yuzu's marriage. We already know how this ends. This is functionally an extended flashback. Just in case: if you haven't read the original Citrus, you should read that before this one.

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I think Mei is just playing and she will leave Yuzu some day. I think she see Yuzu as a source of comfort for her but she not really in love with her the way Yuzu is in love with her in love with her. I mean she been with Yuzu so long so of course she will likes her in some way but I don't think she got any real feelings for. I don't say she will leave Yuzu for Arata but there is no doubt that she will eventually grow tired of playing her own "game" and will have to tell Yu the truth about how she truly feel.

They get married. We're just leading up to Mei and Yuzu's marriage. We already know how this ends. This is functionally an extended flashback. Just in case: if you haven't read the original Citrus, you should read that before this one.

ABANDON MY OLD ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WERE SO TOXIC AND I WAS ATTACKED BUT WOW I CANNOT BELIEVE THE DELUSION ON HERE. MEI DON'T LOVE YUZU LIKE SHE LOVE HER. SURE SHE LIKE HER SHE DON'T HATE HER AND THEY MIGHT GET MARRIED BUT MEI AND YUZU WILL COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT MEI DON'T TRULY FEEL THAT WAY FOR HER. HARUM PROBABLY FEEL MORE AFFECTION TOWARD YUZU THEN MEI DO AND THATS JUST THE TRUTH

Yuzu will probably end up fall in love with Harum be honest but as we know Harum will sadly probably be with the Matsuri...

I think Mei is just playing and she will leave Yuzu some day. I think she see Yuzu as a source of comfort for her but she not really in love with her the way Yuzu is in love with her in love with her. I mean she been with Yuzu so long so of course she will likes her in some way but I don't think she got any real feelings for. I don't say she will leave Yuzu for Arata but there is no doubt that she will eventually grow tired of playing her own "game" and will have to tell Yu the truth about how she truly feel.

They get married. We're just leading up to Mei and Yuzu's marriage. We already know how this ends. This is functionally an extended flashback. Just in case: if you haven't read the original Citrus, you should read that before this one.

ABANDON MY OLD ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WERE SO TOXIC AND I WAS ATTACKED BUT WOW I CANNOT BELIEVE THE DELUSION ON HERE. MEI DON'T LOVE YUZU LIKE SHE LOVE HER. SURE SHE LIKE HER SHE DON'T HATE HER AND THEY MIGHT GET MARRIED BUT MEI AND YUZU WILL COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT MEI DON'T TRULY FEEL THAT WAY FOR HER. HARUM PROBABLY FEEL MORE AFFECTION TOWARD YUZU THEN MEI DO AND THATS JUST THE TRUTH

What in the world...

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I think Mei is just playing and she will leave Yuzu some day. I think she see Yuzu as a source of comfort for her but she not really in love with her the way Yuzu is in love with her in love with her. I mean she been with Yuzu so long so of course she will likes her in some way but I don't think she got any real feelings for. I don't say she will leave Yuzu for Arata but there is no doubt that she will eventually grow tired of playing her own "game" and will have to tell Yu the truth about how she truly feel.

They get married. We're just leading up to Mei and Yuzu's marriage. We already know how this ends. This is functionally an extended flashback. Just in case: if you haven't read the original Citrus, you should read that before this one.

ABANDON MY OLD ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WERE SO TOXIC AND I WAS ATTACKED BUT WOW I CANNOT BELIEVE THE DELUSION ON HERE. MEI DON'T LOVE YUZU LIKE SHE LOVE HER. SURE SHE LIKE HER SHE DON'T HATE HER AND THEY MIGHT GET MARRIED BUT MEI AND YUZU WILL COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT MEI DON'T TRULY FEEL THAT WAY FOR HER. HARUM PROBABLY FEEL MORE AFFECTION TOWARD YUZU THEN MEI DO AND THATS JUST THE TRUTH

What in the world...

Someone has gone too deep in delusion.

Jokes and memes aside, it is really weird how some people are so fixated on Yuzu and Mei fucking

I think because Citrus has/had this rep of this steamy taboo romance. So I think people believe it should have happened by now, a lot of the early expectation as far as I remember was basically what FlowerChild's works ended up being, where their manga focus on a messy highly sexual toxic relationship.

Plus various other long running Yuri manga have had some kind of sexual encounter, even if it happens off page, it's something that has definitely happened. Citrus for having this spicy rep surprisingly hasn't gone very far with it.

I understand that for sure and it's not a big deal anyway, but Citrus hasn't ever really been a spicy series has it? It was only so superficially for a bit. It had "spicy" scenes mostly earlier on but the tone and direction wasn't that way and it's been years since then so it's interesting that the expectation still lingers. Citrus seemed to be making a point earlier on about its characters' mental states and that was it. It's really been an "innocent" series even when those scenes were present.

The issue isn’t for me about “fucking” per se but about the trajectory of the characters, especially Mei. As has recently been pointed out, OG Mei was a Proper Japanese Lady masking a smoldering volcano of emotion—sexual desire, yes, but also, among other things, grief over the “loss” of her father. Her resistance to going all-in sexually with Yuzu was more about struggling to keep herself under control rather than about fending off Yuzu’s advances.

It’s easy to forget that the start of the benighted “Second Arranged Marriage” arc interrupted a Mei-Yuzu makeout session that both had been longing for. Ever since then Mei has consistently been transformed from a firecracker (h/t to Altair for the phrase) into a damp mop.

Had readers still been getting regular doses of those Mei-Yuzu hickey-leaving competitions of the past I’m pretty sure there would have been fewer laments about “when will they fuck?”.

Yeah the series feels inconsistent I think. There was moments that built it's rep as this steamier romance, but then there's other times where it feels nothing like that. The series is something I wouldn't exactly call "wholesome", but generally it's not fiery and sexually intense either. I think it leaves various parts of it's audience not really getting what they wanted or expected out of the series. Even years later people want what they liked about earlier parts to return, some of that passionate and intense emotion at least.

At this point, after the original Citrus ended with Mei and Yuzu getting engaged, I think the author made Citrus+ to show what life is like for a high school couple who's engaged. while also having a story going on with the plot devices and whatnot like in the latest volume (I think) the author added new stuff like involving Mei’s childhood guy friend to keep it interesting and to show yuzu sightly jealous side. and didn't expect much to come from this side series, but it still has those playful moments, like when Mei left a hickey on Yuzu. thats how I view Cirtus+ so far. but I can understand the 'leaves various parts of it's audience not really getting what they wanted or expected out of the series' part. Many viewers are still waiting for a peak because, in many yuri mangas, a peak is when the two characters in love show their passion through sex, like in the manga Come Rain or Shine. Like you said, Citrus isn't really a wholesome manga, so readers expecting more likely see it that way too.

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I’m going to go at this whole business a different way. Putting the debatable lewd/wholesome, “will they ever fuck?” issue to one side for a moment, OG Citrus started out being about plain-spoken, down-to-earth, heart-on-her-sleeve Yuzu opening up the prim and proper but deeply repressed Mei emotionally. The MCs’ big bonding moment was when Yuzu helped Mei confront her grief over the “loss” of her father and then to reconnect with him.

The MCs’ romantic relationship was focused on allowing Mei to tap into her true feelings (including her desire for affection and physical intimacy). Becoming romantically involved with a woman, let alone with her (new) stepsister, constituted a massive break with the traditional, highly conservative values of the Aihara family, values that had previously been the guiding principles of Mei’s life. That was Mei’s character arc.

Except at the end of the original Citrus all that family traditionalism was just handwaved away, and then Mei (who was essentially MIA as a character for the climactic arc of the series) instituted this “starting over” protocol for the MCs’ relationship, and she has since spent far more time scolding Yuzu, keeping her at arm’s length, or being totally clueless about how to even interact with a family member let alone a lover (the birthday fiasco being a prime example) than she has been shown behaving like someone in an intimate relationship with a person she lives and sleeps with. (Let me be clear: this is a critique of the author’s development of the character, not of Mei the imaginary person.)

There would have been ways to have shown Mei, having undergone a personal transformation because of Yuzu’s love, putting her new set of personal values into public action by changing the ethos of the Aihara academy. That may even be what the author thinks she’s doing. But with the removal of familial expectations as the source of the external conflict, Mei herself has been forced into the role of being the block to a fuller romantic relationship with Yuzu, and in Citrus+ she seems nearly as uptight and repressed as if the original series never happened.

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I see that we continue with the same debates and the ones we have left hahahaha. the reality to know what people's expectations were when citrus+ started and what the current reality is, you just have to go to the first comments in this forum when citrus+ started. comments like, "I want to see them fuck" "I want to see more physical intimacy" "I don't want to see more dramas, just fun" "I don't want new random characters to appear to create unnecessary dramas" "I want to see harumatsu canon" "I want a more stable periodicity" etc... the reality today is that physical contact between mei and yuzu is scarce, we have had more dramas than fun, random characters have appeared to create dramas, the harumatsu today is dead and buried and the periodicity of the play has not improved at all. ........ . On the other hand, there are people who have a contrary opinion and it is very respectable, that they are loving the story as it goes and there are also many comments. Lastly, I understand that there are people who are very big fans of haruyuzu, honestly they would be a very good couple, but it is curious how after of the 6 vol of citrus+ plus the 10 of the original series for many people meiyuzu has not caught on, and in part it is because MEI's character development is inconsistent and many times It generates more rejection than empathy with her. greetings

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Another month with a big fat NOTHING!!!!! End it. Kill it. Over and done with. Author is too busy living off the past to care about the future.

Another month with a big fat NOTHING!!!!! End it. Kill it. Over and done with. Author is too busy living off the past to care about the future.

Lol not only that, but it looks like there'll also be no new chapter next month, according to a preview from YH (https://www.ichijinsha.co.jp/yurihime/next/)

Another month with a big fat NOTHING!!!!! End it. Kill it. Over and done with. Author is too busy living off the past to care about the future.

Lol not only that, but it looks like there'll also be no new chapter next month, according to a preview from YH (https://www.ichijinsha.co.jp/yurihime/next/)

well it doesn't surprise me. the periodicity of citrus+ has plummeted. After going 6 months without releasing a chapter, I released one to close volume 6 and put it on sale and after that one would think that I would return a little to a more stable periodicity, but we are back to our old ways. But hey, if yurihime magazine is happy with this, then good for them. Citrus finished and this is a simple extra. Hello

finally caught up after taking a brief break

I completely get everyone's frustrations-- I remember first starting the OG Citrus series bc it was like the biggest "mainstream" yuri on the market, and at the time, OG Citrus was crazy with drama and pacing was great with the monthly releases.

New Citrus+ is definitely nice in the way that we know they get married eventually and we're just filling the gaps in between. My biggest gripe is although I was okay with Mei's characterization in the original, Citrus+ shows me that I legitimately dislike that their dynamic always kinda feels like Yuzu is on the short end of the stick. She's always apologizing, always taking blame, somehow being the only one explaining a thousand things when she's emotionally vulnerable --- like no joke... is she talking to some kind of wall....? like Yuzu is 95% of their emotional expression and emotional growth at times, and Yuzu isn't even my favorite character in Citrus.

I'll keep reading, but I feel like I share similar frustrations with some people here--- like I defended Mei during her "Meibot" accusations but jeez, sometimes I get why people think that!

Another month with a big fat NOTHING!!!!! End it. Kill it. Over and done with. Author is too busy living off the past to care about the future.

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

Another month with a big fat NOTHING!!!!! End it. Kill it. Over and done with. Author is too busy living off the past to care about the future.

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

good question. According to some comments that I have read out there, it is an asset of the Yurihime magazine, and that is why this periodicity is allowed and and the lack of information , which would not be allowed in another manga. Someone would have to explain to me how citrus+ can be an asset for the magazine, if in a magazine that comes out every month, in a year it has only had one chapter in publication in the magazine itself ....

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https://x.com/_saburouta/status/1837776717609336898

Sabu came back to live just to remind us that the entire anime (in japanese obviously) can be watched for free on YT

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

What are you talking about? citrus is one the biggest series not just on YH bu of the genre itself. That is precisely why sabu is allowed to do whatever she pleases.

https://x.com/_saburouta/status/1837776717609336898

Sabu came back to live just to remind us that the entire anime (in japanese obviously) can be watched for free on YT

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

What are you talking about? citrus is one the biggest series not just on YH bu of the genre itself. That is precisely why sabu is allowed to do whatever she pleases.

What's infinite channel? Never heard of them before but that's cool.

The channel of one of the producers of the anime. Funnily enough, they were also on the production committee of Watayuri

The channel of one of the producers of the anime. Funnily enough, they were also on the production committee of Watayuri

That's interesting. Thanks for the heads up.

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

What are you talking about? citrus is one the biggest series not just on YH bu of the genre itself. That is precisely why sabu is allowed to do whatever she pleases.

idk about that tho, i don´t think it reached yuru yuri levels of mainstream popularity and yuri itself it´s a really niche genre, so while yes some time ago it was really popular among a really small set of manga reader, i don´t think it has the cultural impact to just live of his past

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As of June 2024 Citrus has sold 4 million copies in 16 volumes (1.9 million just from Japan alone) and according to the most recent numbers we have, is the second best selling yuri manga. Only behind Saki and above Yuru Yuri

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As of June 2024 Citrus has sold 4 million copies in 16 volumes (1.9 million just from Japan alone) and according to the most recent numbers we have, is the second best selling yuri manga. Only behind Saki and above Yuru Yuri

I can get debating quality but Citrus is clearly very popular to this day. The other stuff is more interesting to me. For example, I love seeing 2DK and Fuzoroi no Renri up there. For some reason I forget how popular Murcielago is every now and then.

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Yuru Yuri is still top one yuri in Japan, damn.

As of June 2024 Citrus has sold 4 million copies in 16 volumes (1.9 million just from Japan alone) and according to the most recent numbers we have, is the second best selling yuri manga. Only behind Saki and above Yuru Yuri

I can get debating quality but Citrus is clearly very popular to this day. The other stuff is more interesting to me. For example, I love seeing 2DK and Fuzoroi no Renri up there. For some reason I forget how popular Murcielago is every now and then.
Nobody doubts that citrus is popular, I'm the first to "criticize" but I'm still here. Those data that you have provided are wonderful, but they also continue to talk about the past (in my humble opinion) because Treats citrus and citrus+ as a whole, when here we are talking about citrus+, not the original series. It would be interesting to see sales data separating the original series, and citrus+, as two series Independent (even if they are not). The reality is that one year we have only had one episode of citrus+ and history (in my opinion) has taken a bassoon. The future will.If you don't publish and months and months go by without information, and if you don't give something "attractive" to the reader, in the end people will end up getting tired. Greetings

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