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Surprise(2)
joined Jun 17, 2021

Everybody is like, "underage"?
And I must admit, it crossed my mind for a moment as when Lily died is a major plot point to her story.

But I'm also just like, these characters are from a comedy about zombies who literally fall apart at the most inconvenient times, so all I can think during their sex is, something's probably going to fall off (I was thinking skin sliding off, but there's also the obvious).

Eri
joined Aug 30, 2020

Everybody is like, "underage"?
And I must admit, it crossed my mind for a moment as when Lily died is a major plot point to her story.

But I'm also just like, these characters are from a comedy about zombies who literally fall apart at the most inconvenient times, so all I can think during their sex is, something's probably going to fall off (I was thinking skin sliding off, but there's also the obvious).

Congratulations on Lily's surprise orchiectomy!

Arqxpgpd_700w_0
joined Apr 2, 2018

I'm somehow surprised that Lily has grown into a "member" despite her gender. ⁄⁠(⁠⁄⁠ ⁠⁄⁠•⁠⁄⁠-⁠⁄⁠•⁠⁄⁠ ⁠⁄⁠)⁠⁄

And I also can't stop looking at the character without remembering that recent controversial tweet from a certain author of the famous literary phenomenon that you already know who she is. (⁠ب⁠_⁠ب⁠)

Alterist Uploader
joined Jul 27, 2020

@CaioGuedesAUT funnily it was that tweet that made me remember that I had yet to upload this to Dynasty. I had refrained for....well what's self evident in this comment thread.

Alan%20pequeno
joined Jun 20, 2022

Man yall finding way too much trouble in this, I'm just so glad to have a realist trangender yuri work here, this made my day so much thanks for uploading @Alterist S2

and also the tags are perfect as they are right now. This is a nsfw transgender yuri, it's not futanari, not girl with dick, not any of that bs. Just. Transgender yuri. Some of yall really just trying to be transphobes in disguise huh

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joined Jun 25, 2019

not girl with dick

Well, technically yes. It's a girl with a dick, call a cat, a cat.

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joined Oct 30, 2021

That has never made any sense to me. Imo separating yuri and futanari is just confusing and doesn't accomplish anything

I'd weigh in on the side that futa and yuri should generally remain separate with considerations for if a work is clearly aiming to be yuri genre fiction. With rare exceptions, such as the Love Live Sunshine doujinshi by Mikan mentioned above, futa has been historically and still is a very distinct, very fetishized genre consumed as het porn. Basically, futa is a commercial genre of het porn and it's weird to tag it as yuri.

I disagree bc futanari is mainly a depiction of perfect human hermaphrodites, that can be consumed by both girls and boys equally, also if futanari cant be considered yuri so it shouldnt be the strap on... And dont even try to use the "but it isnt a real dick" bruh its the representation of one used by lesbian or het couples that are into pegging.

Also i cant speak for lesbian couples, im just an average het dude, but regarding futa as "mainly for het consumption" when most of the men i see online are very against the idea of futa issssssss.... XD

joined Sep 15, 2019

I disagree bc futanari is mainly a depiction of perfect human hermaphrodites, that can be consumed by both girls and boys equally, also if futanari cant be considered yuri so it shouldnt be the strap on... And dont even try to use the "but it isnt a real dick" bruh its the representation of one used by lesbian or het couples that are into pegging.

Also i cant speak for lesbian couples, im just an average het dude, but regarding futa as "mainly for het consumption" when most of the men i see online are very against the idea of futa issssssss.... XD

If you can't speak for lesbian couples then why speak at all? There is absolutely a massive difference between a strap-on (a piece of plastic that in most cases doesn't even resemble a dick) and an actual dick.

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joined Oct 30, 2021

I disagree bc futanari is mainly a depiction of perfect human hermaphrodites, that can be consumed by both girls and boys equally, also if futanari cant be considered yuri so it shouldnt be the strap on... And dont even try to use the "but it isnt a real dick" bruh its the representation of one used by lesbian or het couples that are into pegging.

Also i cant speak for lesbian couples, im just an average het dude, but regarding futa as "mainly for het consumption" when most of the men i see online are very against the idea of futa issssssss.... XD

If you can't speak for lesbian couples then why speak at all? There is absolutely a massive difference between a strap-on (a piece of plastic that in most cases doesn't even resemble a dick) and an actual dick.

Cause im not speaking for lesbian couples... But illuminate me, what makes a strap-on that much different in purpose in sex vs a dick... Cause seriously i cant think of one

joined Sep 15, 2019

Cause im not speaking for lesbian couples... But illuminate me, what makes a strap-on that much different in purpose in sex vs a dick... Cause seriously i cant think of one

Your original post was about why strap-on is considered yuri but futanari is not. Yuri is between two women, a futanari is neither a woman or a man.

But in any case a strap-on is not a "representation" of a dick, it's a sex toy. Some dildos do look like actual penises but I can honestly say I don't know a single lesbian that uses one of those.

Fb_img_1636852439556
joined Oct 30, 2021

Your original post was about why strap-on is considered yuri but futanari is not. Yuri is between two women, a futanari is neither a woman or a man.

Correction, a futanari is an individual with both male and female sexual organs, their gender identity is still one of the both common Boy or Girl. Your take disapproves the idea of transgender women x ciswomen relationships as yuri bc of the common presence of a dick :v

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joined Sep 27, 2017

@CaioGuedesAUT funnily it was that tweet that made me remember that I had yet to upload this to Dynasty. I had refrained for....well what's self evident in this comment thread.

There are people that definitely appreciate and enjoy the work, so I would say don't sweat it. There is of course controversy in the comments, but remember the majority of people reading the work aren't commenting. A lot of those people enjoy the work and appreciate the upload, and so I say it's better to upload it and let the rest sort it's self than not uploading it all in my opinion.

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joined Aug 12, 2020

I am confused

Basically it's a question of whether NSFW works involving trans characters should be tagged as Transgender+NSFW+Yuri/Yaoi/Het (assuming there's no seperate yuri/yaoi/het pairing in the same work) or as simply Transgender + NSFW. We could potentially add tags for transcentric subgenres (eg. Trans-yuri) as better indicators of content, but there might not be enough works to warrant those just yet.

I don't like the "Transgender + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" tag combo because it could mean the work has transgender relationships or both transgender and cisgender relationships. The reader has no idea, especially since the vast majority of Yuri/Yaoi/Het tags on Dynasty Scans are cisgender.

The fact that Dynasty Scans went with "Transgender' + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" and not "Transgender + NSFW" means we value defining the gender of the relationships high enough to tag it. In that case I think it is perfectly fine to let the reader know if the relationships are cisgender or transgender with tags. I would go with these tags:

"Yuri" "Yaoi" "Het" = cisgender relationships

"Trans-yuri" "Trans-yaoi" "Trans-het" = transgender relationships

"Transgender' + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" is playing genital roulette.

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joined Jun 21, 2021

"Transgender' + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" is playing genital roulette.

being trans by itself is no indication of what kind of physical makeup the charcters may have.

This isn't a dedicated hentai site where it might be worth having specific related tags and getting that hung up over genitals.

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

This thread is a disaster.

Like, yeah, I love going full tag nerd as much as anyone! ...Over on Danbo.

Frankly, until someone uploads something that creates the NEED for this debate, I don't see the point. "What ifs" and "this could happens" are fine in a theoretical discussion around resolving an existing ambiguity are cool, but defensive ontology development always comes with steeply diminishing returns.

Seriously, if you can't figure out from the tags and the barest hint of context that the book - one that's clearly featuring two girls, one of whom is known to be trans, and the tags put them in an intimate situation and you know the trans girl probably still has her OEM genitalia - involves a penis at some point, I'm not sure there's any helping that sort of derangement.

joined Jul 11, 2019

yes....

Smallerpfp
joined Nov 26, 2019

how the fuck is "transgender" + "yuri" less descriptive than "trans yuri" would be. Those are functionally identical tagging standards.

Arqxpgpd_700w_0
joined Apr 2, 2018

@CaioGuedesAUT funnily it was that tweet that made me remember that I had yet to upload this to Dynasty. I had refrained for....well what's self evident in this comment thread.

There are people that definitely appreciate and enjoy the work, so I would say don't sweat it. There is of course controversy in the comments, but remember the majority of people reading the work aren't commenting. A lot of those people enjoy the work and appreciate the upload, and so I say it's better to upload it and let the rest sort it's self than not uploading it all in my opinion.

I agree with your statement, it's not up to us to talk about such a controversial subject here. Despite reality showing us such terrible things, what matters is that we have fun reading a light and peaceful story, no matter if it's real life controversy or fiction.

joined Jan 6, 2017

Come on, please add some tag for those who can' t satnd male sexual organic in yuri. I was really depressed by this.

There were no male sexual organs in this.
And if you can't figure out that Transgender + Yuri + NSFW might mean that it's gonna feature a dick or two then that's on you

OrangePekoe Admin
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joined Mar 20, 2013

Mod Note

Yeah, better late than never. Disregarding the earliest iteration of the tags on this doujin, we're happy with them as they stand now*, and have no current intention to add new tags or change the general ethos for tagging such works in the future. Given the nature of the thread, there is neither any intention to delete posts already made. However, this is not the appropriate place for strong tag discussions. I'd ask that any further thoughts on that issue be made in the Help thread. Thanks.

*Tags at time of posting: Age gap Lily x Yuugiri Lolicon Lots of sex NSFW Transgender Yuri Zombies

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joined Oct 20, 2017

"Transgender' + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" is playing genital roulette.

Genital roulette. Haven't heard of this game before, sounds like it would go hard

joined Jan 6, 2017

"Transgender' + Yuri/Yaoi/Het" is playing genital roulette.

Genital roulette. Haven't heard of this game before, sounds like it would go hard

Or wet, depending which genitals you get

joined Oct 25, 2010

I’m happy just reading about the wonders that come from ooshima Tomo and the stories and artwork! I’m not a big fan of futa, but it wasn’t that obvious!!

Seira%20the%20boss
joined Jun 25, 2017

This is cute. Definitelly better than 80% of the futanari doujoins I read recently - yes, I think this is indeed yuri as Lily said she is a girl and is doing her best for that dream

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