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joined Jan 22, 2015

While I do need to re-read this chapter while sober, I must say hot damn that was one hell of a finale note reimei (author-sama) left us. I greatly appreciate authors who put this much thought into their works.

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joined Dec 29, 2020

The ending was quite rushed but I'm glad I read this work. While I love yuri and romance, it's nice to get some sort of aroace representation.

I wish there were more manga about aromantic people and their struggles in the world where romantic love is the norm. Since it truly is a struggle, understanding yourself and what exactly do you seek.

Jo
joined Jan 1, 2019

The problem with the ending is that Matoi is, subconsciously, unsatisfied with the non-physical/non-romantic relationship. She starts of the story thinking she may not have those kinds of feelings but it seems that they just hadn't bloomed until she met Yuriko. Six years is a long time holding back on what she wants, she may not have a strong drive for a physical(sexual)/romantic relationship but it is evident that she wants one.
There's more to their emotional states to be explored than to just randomly time skip SIX YEARS and have them living as neighbors, this needed another two or at least one more volume in order satisfy the audience with a resolved and fleshed-out ending. This was a good series but needed just a bit more development to make it better.

Golden Mertens
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joined Jul 9, 2021

Wait this is already the end?!, lol, last chapter I tought that we were just getting started

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joined Apr 22, 2017

I love this one! It's good to see aromantic and asexual get into the romance. Love the ending, love the author thought process, love the effort they put into creating the story they always want to read.

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joined Jun 3, 2014

I hate it here

same

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I love this one! It's good to see aromantic and asexual get into the romance.

Get into the what, now? The main thing they agree on is that it’s not a romance.

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joined Sep 1, 2017

I'm glad that Yuriko and Matoi found love in their own way, and seem happy together. However I'm unsatisfied. I feel like I just ate a bland meal, only to find dessert is unflavored ice cream. I'm not mad I read this. Everybody deserves to have their story told. I just wanted something out of it, that it just wasn't ment to give.

I think I would would have enjoyed the story much more, if Matoi's little sister turned out to be a yuri girl. Then Matoi and Yuriko could get their relationship, and I could get my traditional yuri fix all at the same time. Plus with Matoi 's sister's taste in men she would be better off with the ladies, anyway.

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joined Sep 14, 2014

felt like an axe haha, oh well, wasnt the best but i still enjoyed the trip through. wish they explored it a bit more

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joined Feb 19, 2016

That felt a bit abrupt, but I'm mostly happy to see a manga representing acespec in such a wholesome, understanding way. While it does feel weird they don't live in the same apartment together (that's just wasteful monetarily imo), I'm glad they stuck to their queer-platonic relationship.

The only thing that really leaves a sour taste in my mouth is where we left Rio. I had personally kind of hoped for an acespec QP/Poly sort of... thingy? for the three of them

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joined Nov 21, 2018

I liked this story more than I thought I would at the start. It may end on a bittersweet note, with Matoi having a Super Friend instead of a Girlfriend, but they're still together and it's clear Yuriko loves Matoi in her own way. For the same reason, I disagree with the notion that the Yuri or Romance tags need to be removed. Even if it didn't end with them as a couple, this was still a love story between two girls.

joined Sep 16, 2019

Hmm speaking as someone who is aroace (though I don't claim to be the most informed), this was okay, I guess? It's not something I would rec, but I don't hate it either. The two leads honestly don't have much going on for them. A goal or something for Yuriko would've been nice since it felt like she was just along for the ride. There was some missed opportunity for a proper conflict about Matoi being in love with Yuriko and her being unable to reciprocate, since it was just resolved with Matoi deciding to defer to Yuriko's wants. It generally felt like they kept making the perfect choices for each other, which is fine, but it doesn't make a very compelling narrative. Like, screw a up a bit!

I like best girl Rio as much as the next person, but I don't think a relationship between her and Matoi could've worked out in the long term. It looks like they want different things out of a relationship, with Rio favoring physical touch while Matoi seems indifferent to it. Although they could always talk it out, I guess.

joined Feb 10, 2022

It's a meh ending for me. Rio's one sided love didn't make sense other than pity her. Rio should have been a good friend and that's it. She didn't even appear in the end but anyway... Yuriko and Matoi just ended in a womance no more no less.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

It generally felt like they kept making the perfect choices for each other, which is fine, but it doesn't make a very compelling narrative.

Exactly, and that seems to be what a good chunk of readers basically want, or at least are happy enough to get—smooth sailing with thoughtful, considerate, well-intentioned characters making ethically responsible choices for themselves and for others.

That’s a wonderful world to imagine, but not very fertile ground for storytelling. As I said, this almost felt like an experimental trial run for stories with both MCs being aro-ace, and therefore with neither of them being positioned as troublesome, out of line, or just wrong in how they were feeling and acting. Such conflict as there was consisted of the MCs confronting their own feelings, then doing what was best for the other person.

henrytruongfe522
joined Jan 25, 2022

i don't know, i get a feeling like watching a Dog Fight where 2 dogs get thrown in a pit together and forced to fight in which one of them wants to fight but the other one keep running away. Then in the middle of the fight another dog get throwing in and it wants to fight too but neither of the others dog want to fight that dog but instead they keep the "chasing- fleeing" status going while the third dog watching them in sorrow. And in the end, the first 2 dogs which one of them still have the spirit to fight but can't because whether it start chasing the other dog that dog will start running away so they stop the chasing-fleeing situation and sitting next to each other awkwardly while the third dog magically disappear???
Yeah... all in all, it sucks.

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joined May 18, 2021

As an ace woman who has been in Matoi's shoes I feel called the fuck out lol. I thought it was interesting that Yuriko was willing to try and sleep with Matoi (at least that's how I read it) as a show of like. Letting her know how much she meant to her.

I'm glad that author stuck to the bit of "yeah, Yuriko IS aro/ace actually" because it's not a group that gets represented a lot. I'm surprised they didn't end up living together, but I suppose it works as a shorthand of "even years later they still aren't romantically together"

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joined Oct 30, 2021

Oh my god, they were not roommates. They were neighbours.

Images
joined Apr 4, 2012

what a disappointing ending

joined Oct 27, 2019

Aro/ace spec person here. I'll say that having romantic feelings for a person but no sexual feelings can be quite different than allo folk might expect. It's obviously different for each person but for me it's easy enough to just enjoy a close friendship without any expectations of romance down the line. I have a crush on a friend and they have a crush on me but for various reason we decided to just say friends. I still talk to them daily, share my feelings, say I love them (in a platonic sense), and just generally enjoy being around them. Those romantic feelings still exist but with such a strong friendship I just don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. That's just me though and I'm generally quite happy with the ending, even though it felt quite rushed.

I'll also say, the whole living separately was likely just the author using it as short hand for them not being in a romantic relationship. If they both lived in the same place it'd be a bit harder to convey in what ended up being 1 panel. That's not even to get into some people just might like a lot of personal space that can't be provided with just having separate rooms.

RyuMako-Himakurako
joined Dec 13, 2014

I feel bad about being this disapppointed because I'm aware that it's just another perspective on an aspect of life and I'm just not the target audience. But with that said I think that this work is very badly tagged, it almost shouldn't be tagged as "Yuri" and at the very least be tagged as "Asexual"

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joined Mar 16, 2013

I enjoy

Shiro
joined Oct 12, 2020

As a wise bald man once said:

"What a shitshow"

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joined Jul 23, 2021

Not bad. While it may have been lacking in conflict, it seems the author wanted there to be a story like this to exist in the world: a story about people of varying kinds of sexualities respecting each other's identity and not using it as a tool for drama/a tragedy where all characters had well intentions. From this work, I read a desire for wanting people to coexist with each other without wanting so much from another person - something they cannot possibly give you.

That said, Rio did get done pretty dirty. I mean is that seriously what her last appearance will be? A possibly jealous/wounded expression followed by an exit to right, never to be seen again?

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joined Nov 12, 2020

The ending definitely fits the bill of >> and have it end with not much explaining about certain aspects.

One wonders what happened to Rio...

joined Oct 30, 2018

Lackluster, had this not been tagged Yuri it would've never been read

last edited at Apr 30, 2022 12:25AM

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