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joined Aug 19, 2019

Ah yes new character to add to the collection!

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joined Oct 22, 2018

A new girl joins the harem...

I'm not sure how to feel about this

LilyScentedBubbleBath
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joined Sep 15, 2020

Goddamit Nakano, you were supposed to be better than this!
Control that adorkable smile of yours or you're gonna be pummeled by pussy >:T

joined Jun 8, 2020

tsk tsk tsk... girl, you never learn, eh?!!!!

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joined Aug 29, 2019

@BV
I also didn't want her to join the fray of relationships... but it looks like this could be super fun, and I hope that's all it'll be. If she becomes a permanent intrusive part of the relationship diagram it might be more annoying than fun.

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joined Mar 15, 2017

nakano aka the resident seductress no one is immune to her charm

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joined Jun 19, 2014

Guys, I have to get this off my chest. I’m in love with Nakano too.

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joined Aug 29, 2019

Guys, I have to get this off my chest. I’m in love with Nakano too.

I mean, how could you say no to that face?

Vashu
joined Apr 2, 2017

yeah new girl should uh, have a classmate interest and then try and get relationship advice from our "virtuoso" nakano. would be pretty funny instead of uncomfy.

joined Jul 19, 2020

i like this but, y does it feel like the author has no motivation n is being forced to bring chapters out maybe its just me

last edited at Mar 5, 2021 1:18PM

Yuriprofilepiccropped
joined May 27, 2019

Usually a harem story will have the first girl basically be the designated "true end", so to speak. This is interesting because you basically get a "first pair" of Sakurako and Nagisa.

Also, being poly, I can personally vouch that timid, soft-spoken types are great at collecting partners. That "I want to take care of them" factor is very powerful.

Madame_Firenze
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joined Jul 17, 2015

Damn Nakano is such a pussy magnet

Abbysmug
joined May 15, 2020

Also, being poly, I can personally vouch that timid, soft-spoken types are great at collecting partners. That "I want to take care of them" factor is very powerful.

Wait a minute, I’m a timid, soft-spoken type... is this why people in my friend group keep crushing on/confessing to me???

joined Jan 13, 2019

oh no oh no oh no author, im begging you, please dont make horny jokes with the middle schooler. Please do not

Ewe
joined Jan 22, 2017

When life gives you tanned tomboys, you root for them.

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

Nobody can resist the sheer potato magnetism Nakano constantly exudes.

Gay%20panic
joined Sep 11, 2020

oh no oh no oh no author, im begging you, please dont make horny jokes with the middle schooler. Please do not

Agreed.

Nakano's Lesiban Magnet Powers have activated once again but possibly in the worst possible way?

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joined Jan 4, 2021

So this is basically a harem manga in disguise

Lojsdbe
joined Sep 16, 2019

oh no oh no oh no author, im begging you, please dont make horny jokes with the middle schooler. Please do not

Considering her idea of conflict resolution is hide-and-seek, I’m going to guess Hikaru is going to be used for jokes about childhood crushes and general innocence (especially is regards to the horny antics of just about every other character here). I doubt she was introduced just for the author to make the exact same types of jokes every other character has already been making.

So this is basically a harem manga in disguise

At this point it’s about as disguised as a pine tree in a desert and I am here for it.

last edited at Mar 5, 2021 5:21PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

oh no oh no oh no author, im begging you, please dont make horny jokes with the middle schooler. Please do not

Considering her idea of conflict resolution is hide-and-seek, I’m going to guess Hikaru is going to be used for jokes about childhood crushes and general innocence (especially is regards to the horny antics of just about every other character here). I doubt she was introduced just for the author to make the exact same types of jokes every other character has already been making.

So this is basically a harem manga in disguise

At this point it’s about as disguised as a pine tree in a desert and I am here for it.

This. I think people are freaking out over this (notably fictional) younger girl crushing on her, and are making a big deal out of nothing.

i like this but, y does it feel like the author has no motivation n is being forced to bring chapters out maybe its just me

I don't understand how it feels like this at all. The author is constantly making short Yuri comics and art on Twitter. To me they're very clearly having fun with this series and everything they work on.

last edited at Mar 7, 2021 3:56AM

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joined Aug 12, 2019

Damn Nakano is such a pussy magnet

it's damn effective

Vashu
joined Apr 2, 2017

The "fiction doesn't affect reality" "debate" has been so poisoned by jack thompson satanic panic crap from the 80's and 90's. we know quite obviously fiction doesn't make you literally recreate whatever happens therein, but that doesn't mean there's 0 impact. If there was why the heck would anyone do literary analysis on anything (or for that matter write/make anything)?

The fiction people make is informed by their real experiences, biases, tastes, beliefs, etc. in which they present in some form, and the reader attempts to matches their own, to relate. Whether that's merely finding a subject entertaining, which is informed by those kinds of things, or aligning with those biases, tastes, beliefs etc. explicitly, it's still reflective of what is acceptable/agreeable etc., particularly if its meant to titillate or agitate (such as propaganda). When you sexualize minors in fiction (which hasn't happened in this manga, yet), or romanticize relationships between minors and adults, it is imparting a judgement, it is indulging if such judgement is "it's taboo". Just start asking why. Why does the author make it? (real world consequences?) Why do people read it? Why does it entertain? Why would someone want to read a chapter titled, "enjoying the scent of high school girls", a sentence that if said in public might have police sent your way by most people? Indulging in a "taboo" is disagreeing with how that thing is perceived by people and that can be as much as "just portraying it". I get it, high school is nostalgic for memories and first romances, immaturity can be funny, fucked up shit happens to kids, there's plenty of reasons to write about those kinds of things in regards to kids. They appeal to frustrated/sad/busy adults, and maybe can make things better for future kids, show how bad things are, or whatever purpose you ascribe. As soon as that delves into sexual stuff, those aims or designs are betrayed. An autobiography doesn't need to go into explicit narrative detail about teen sex, you'd be concerned for that person's health / be grossed out.

This story is pretty clearly dealing with late bloom sexual awakening of its protag via explicit sexual cues and how that affects your potential first relationships. For a minor to be introduced as a parallel, does not bode well. However, it seems she is more ingratiated because of Nakano's charm and the flirty atmosphere, which is a much safer route (i forget if she ever heard any of the main people or if she just had the complaint brought). It could be a "look what nakano missed out on coming to terms with her sexuality by not ever being around gay people at that age, how would she have been emotionally/personality wise?" deal. That tract can reasonably be entertained with no need to be sexual, depending on the person that can play such a small role in the way their attraction works, so why not play safe? why go there and invade, encroach on indulgence? If it's really such a hard idea to get, ask yourself if you'd want your own sexual awakening portrayed in a fictionalized film in explicit detail, done so by pure coincidence. It'd be embarrassing, disturbing, and extremely uncomfortable, even though it's a fictional character, to you and the audience. It's a topic better suited for subtlety. When this stuff happens in western media, like Big Mouth or Sex Education, it definitely gets more obvious when the actors, whose job it is to convince you they are a teenager or are actually teenagers down to every detail, play these things out. What is getting encouraged, what is being particularly enjoyed? Who is making it, who is it for?

Every little bit contributes to the very real and prevalent problem of pedophilia, and a lot of manga plays a role in enabling it.

I'll defer to this response if ever the issue comes up elsewhere. I'm tired of responding to the same bad faith, ignorant arguments.

last edited at Mar 5, 2021 9:34PM

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joined Aug 29, 2019

writes relatively thought-out response
deletes it
Naaaaah, not worth it. Others will take care of it and I should avoid arguments on the internet anyway.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

The "fiction doesn't affect reality" "debate" has been so poisoned by jack thompson satanic panic crap from the 80's and 90's. we know quite obviously fiction doesn't make you literally recreate whatever happens therein, but that doesn't mean there's 0 impact. If there was why the heck would anyone do literary analysis on anything (or for that matter write/make anything)?

The fiction people make is informed by their real experiences, biases, tastes, beliefs, etc. in which they present in some form, and the reader attempts to matches their own, to relate. Whether that's merely finding a subject entertaining, which is informed by those kinds of things, or aligning with those biases, tastes, beliefs etc. explicitly, it's still reflective of what is acceptable/agreeable etc., particularly if its meant to titillate or agitate (such as propaganda). When you sexualize minors in fiction (which hasn't happened in this manga, yet), or romanticize relationships between minors and adults, it is imparting a judgement, it is indulging if such judgement is "it's taboo". Just start asking why. Why does the author make it? (real world consequences?) Why do people read it? Why does it entertain? Why would someone want to read a chapter titled, "enjoying the scent of high school girls", a sentence that if said in public might have police sent your way by most people? Indulging in a "taboo" is disagreeing with how that thing is perceived by people and that can be as much as "just portraying it". I get it, high school is nostalgic for memories and first romances, immaturity can be funny, fucked up shit happens to kids, there's plenty of reasons to write about those kinds of things in regards to kids. They appeal to frustrated/sad/busy adults, and maybe can make things better for future kids, show how bad things are, or whatever purpose you ascribe. As soon as that delves into sexual stuff, those aims or designs are betrayed. An autobiography doesn't need to go into explicit narrative detail about teen sex, you'd be concerned for that person's health / be grossed out.

This story is pretty clearly dealing with late bloom sexual awakening of its protag via explicit sexual cues and how that affects your potential first relationships. For a minor to be introduced as a parallel, does not bode well. However, it seems she is more ingratiated because of Nakano's charm and the flirty atmosphere, which is a much safer route (i forget if she ever heard any of the main people or if she just had the complaint brought). It could be a "look what nakano missed out on coming to terms with her sexuality by not ever being around gay people at that age, how would she have been emotionally/personality wise?" deal. That tract can reasonably be entertained with no need to be sexual, depending on the person that can play such a small role in the way their attraction works, so why not play safe? why go there and invade, encroach on indulgence? If it's really such a hard idea to get, ask yourself if you'd want your own sexual awakening portrayed in a fictionalized film in explicit detail, done so by pure coincidence. It'd be embarrassing, disturbing, and extremely uncomfortable, even though it's a fictional character, to you and the audience. It's a topic better suited for subtlety. When this stuff happens in western media, like Big Mouth or Sex Education, it definitely gets more obvious when the actors, whose job it is to convince you they are a teenager or are actually teenagers down to every detail, play these things out. What is getting encouraged, what is being particularly enjoyed? Who is making it, who is it for?

Every little bit contributes to the very real and prevalent problem of pedophilia, and a lot of manga plays a role in enabling it.

I'll defer to this response if ever the issue comes up elsewhere. I'm tired of responding to the same bad faith, ignorant arguments.

Well maybe don't respond to me, and instead go solve real world problems that impact actual children, instead of taking manga with stylized art as a "serious problem". Yes you're tired of responding to people like me, but I'm also tired of responding to people like you, funny how that works.

Also don't forget all the real world violence that fictional media also enables. All the step-sibling incest the porn enables. All the...so on and so fourth. It's always the same old argument. Thousands of real world pedophiles that know nothing about manga get away with sexual abuse on a daily basis, but surely manga like this is a problem. It's impossible to ever take arguments like yours seriously, just as you don't take mine seriously.

last edited at Mar 5, 2021 10:17PM

Vashu
joined Apr 2, 2017

exactly bad faith as i said. i did not say this manga was guilty of it yet, and I didn't go excusing other media, in fact i actually included two different kinds that also contribute, i didn't say anything about violence not contributing, i think it does (look at decades of propagandist cop serials and how people worship cops and wanted to kill/wished death on protestors last summer, there's so much bloodthirst out there and unquestioning loyalty to the military) . I know porn contributes to rape and incest and sex trafficking. Yeah the old boomers in congress and pals of Epstein know nothing about manga/anime, that doesn't discount the large majority that do, or else know of american/western media that treads the same water, be it books, films, TV shows, etc. (I responded to that bc thats a new one).

its just so goddamn obvious that fiction is not a vacuum. Hell, you read the harry potter books and suddenly rowlings terfism is the logical conclusion of the values espoused in the book, that you can never escape your station of birth.

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