Nah I prefer China to the US, China has it's problems but it hasn't killed millions of civilians in stupid wars
How many Chinese rebellions, civil wars and warlord eras have been some of the bloodiest conflicts in human history again?
Hella many. Not really surprising given the sheer size and pop count of the place already in year Stick and Stone plus a certain alarming tendency to rapidly grow uncomfortably close to its hard Malthusian limit during the stabler periods - so whenever things went to shit for whatever reason (as they cyclically did) megadeaths duly followed.
Just for one example the low estimate for the An Lushan rebellion (755-763 CE) is a whopping thirteen million total - respectably close to the freaking First World War, considering.
For another between the last 156 CE census of the soon-to-collapse Eastern Han dynasty (the death spiral began with the Yellow Turban revolt in 184) and the first census of the Western Jin after reunifying the country at the finale of the Three Kingdoms period in 280 CE the recorded population went from ~56.5 million to mere ~16.2 - an about two-thirds loss. While some is certainly due to the simple inability of the much-damaged administrative apparatus to find and record every subject under the circumstances it's clear a century of warfare, social collapse and the usual attendant famines and epidemics had caused death on a scale that beggars belief.
For a third Mao's Great Leap Forward (1958-62), basically a straight up policy fuckup with no ill intent (quite the contrary), resulted in a famine whose estimated death toll starts at 18 million and goes up to 45.
Moral of the story: when the scale is as staggering as it now tends to be with a realm as large as China, so duly is the butcher's bill when things go sideways.
And THEN you have fun shit like the Qing's outright genocide of the Dzungars in the 1750s or similarly brutal treatment of the Jinchuan Tibetans some decades later because haha fuck mere barbarians amirite? The only reason the death counts for those are low is the simple fact there weren't that many of either group to slaughter in the first place, these being harsh and sparsely populated marginal zones.
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