Actually though. Redefining this as some sort of "rape". Yes. It is illegal (as a protective thing to not let abusive manipulation of people younger and naive to prevent sexual abuse), and is defined as statutory...but pretty obviously Toono wanted it too. She initiated the kiss, remember? She clearly reciprocated and agreed with it. In now way was this negative or abusive. (Don't misread my words...rape is a terrible, and one of the lowest possible, crimes a person can commit against a human being.)

I'm not happy with the sexual harassment moments myself, but if you want to get technical with me Toono gave consent.

Don't compare age gap and child pornography or rape. In no way are the two related.

If you don't believe the relationship can work, go read Hoshikawa. Awesome series.

I see where you are going. However, according to the law of many countries, this is still rape. Toono was influenced by the teacher through sexual harassment and inappropriate suggestions. If the teacher were to leave her alone, sex couldn't have happened.
Age gap could have worked without being called rape if the two parties did not have sexual intercourse or when both are in legal ages.
I normally like teacher/student relationship when both actually spend time (without sexual remarks) with each other and help each other out.
This one starts with the teacher advancing on Toono and did not stop until sex happens. Plus the student was a teenage and they got horny easily. You could manipulate them slowly with the correct techniques (which the teacher used).
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I'm not happy with the sexual harassment moments myself, but if you want to get technical with me Toono gave consent.

Children can't give informed consent because they're not developed enough to actually be informed. Further, this story is a case of an adult with authority over her pushing things on top of that. So the degree of free, informed consent is further suspect.

Don't compare age gap and child pornography or rape. In no way are the two related.

Umm...sex with a child actually is rape. So yeah.

Loli is rape fantasy, not too much way around that. Liking it doesn't really change a whole bunch there.

yeah people are getting too upset over this. sure the teacher was a little pushy but toono was kissing back so its all good

Lol ok. So if a video shows a young girl ( looking like this character) kissing a grown man. At first he forced on her but she kissed back later. Is it still rape? Dubious consent? Loli? Age gap?

When something is strange/wrong, it needs to be pointed out.
People might be over react in a manga but if no one said anything when it comes to fiction, I am sure more published stories and movies will have statutory rape

Im not going to send my daughter to this school for sure. This is rape. I like age gap story but when it involves sex say an adult and a child that is a big no no to me.

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yeah people are getting too upset over this. sure the teacher was a little pushy but toono was kissing back so its all good

Lol ok. So if a video shows a young girl ( looking like this character) kissing a grown man. At first he forced on her but she kissed back later. Is it still rape? Dubious consent? Loli? Age gap?

When something is strange/wrong, it needs to be pointed out.
People might be over react in a manga but if no one said anything when it comes to fiction, I am sure more published stories and movies will have statutory rape

well I'm biased against guys so yes it would be rape :p. but seriously she wasn't that young, like around 14. there was a little build up to toono liking her and she even started the kiss. I honestly don't think its that bad.

Umm are you all forgetting this is FICTIONAL AND NOT REAL LIFE?? Social justice warriors please leave.

Personaly i think the only crimes this manga pulled was being to bland and generic.

Personaly i think the only crimes this manga pulled was being to bland and generic.

THIS

I'm not happy with the sexual harassment moments myself, but if you want to get technical with me Toono gave consent.

Children can't give informed consent because they're not developed enough to actually be informed. Further, this story is a case of an adult with authority over her pushing things on top of that. So the degree of free, informed consent is further suspect.

Fun Fact. That's a political viewpoint rooted in a philosophical standpoint that is an open question without resolution.

Don't compare age gap and child pornography or rape. In no way are the two related.

Umm...sex with a child actually is rape. So yeah.

You obviously didn't read any of what I said. I literally, in the dictionary sense of the word, just wrote that it is considered statutory rape. What I'm getting at is that there is HUGE difference between a violent, degenerating, criminal act and something that could very well be mutually enjoyed and wanted.

Also age gap does not = sex. Age gap can be a romantic story that is devoid of lust.

Actually though. Redefining this as some sort of "rape". Yes. It is illegal (as a protective thing to not let abusive manipulation of people younger and naive to prevent sexual abuse), and is defined as statutory...but pretty obviously Toono wanted it too. She initiated the kiss, remember? She clearly reciprocated and agreed with it. In now way was this negative or abusive. (Don't misread my words...rape is a terrible, and one of the lowest possible, crimes a person can commit against a human being.)

I'm not happy with the sexual harassment moments myself, but if you want to get technical with me Toono gave consent.

Don't compare age gap and child pornography or rape. In no way are the two related.

If you don't believe the relationship can work, go read Hoshikawa. Awesome series.

I see where you are going. However, according to the law of many countries, this is still rape. Toono was influenced by the teacher through sexual harassment and inappropriate suggestions. If the teacher were to leave her alone, sex couldn't have happened.
Age gap could have worked without being called rape if the two parties did not have sexual intercourse or when both are in legal ages.
I normally like teacher/student relationship when both actually spend time (without sexual remarks) with each other and help each other out.
This one starts with the teacher advancing on Toono and did not stop until sex happens. Plus the student was a teenage and they got horny easily. You could manipulate them slowly with the correct techniques (which the teacher used).
....

Mhmm I agree with you. I saw it more as a problem of the author not expressing what she wanted the teacher to be characterized as though. Can't think of how to describe it right now...so I hope you'll just take my word for it.

I was more aggravated at the generalization of age gap as what I described. People taking up arms for a witch hunt.

Let me just confess my Art teacher female 24 and I was 12 did this to me, and at first I was scare but then fully enjoy it. So this wasn't rape. I knew I was a little lesbian back then and lord did I enjoy her honey...so yes...sexy teacher with short skirt. Any girl like me will go for it ;) we never got found out cause I move away and never saw her again. I did see her recently and she had a beautiful daughter she name after me ;) guess the dad never found out about us. There was guys alot the way who wanted it by force hate them she ask me, and I kiss her too so it's mutual. Not rape. I wasn't manipulated to do it. I did it cause I wanted her bad.

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this is boring.. bleh time to read bara!

Normally i like age gap stuff, even with sex, but this seem a bit off . Not only the teacher is a little bit pushy for sex, but obviously she's playing with her, so ... yeah.

mm I agree with you. I saw it more as a problem of the author not expressing what she wanted the teacher to be characterized as though. Can't think of how to describe it right now...so I hope you'll just take my word for it.

I was more aggravated at the generalization of age gap as what I described. People taking up arms for a witch hunt.

The teacher was characterized (in my opinion) as a predator/player. I think when I saw her kissing another student in the first few pages and then hit on the main girl the next page, I disliked her instantly. The author must have been confused when writing this story. They decide to make the teacher seem to be in love with Toono and chase after her despite the initial kiss with a different student.

Let me just confess my Art teacher female 24 and I was 12 did this to me, and at first I was scare but then fully enjoy it. So this wasn't rape. I knew I was a little lesbian back then and lord did I enjoy her honey...so yes...

Good for you? When I was 12, I was busy chasing after my guy friends playing tag and destroying my dad on PS1 games.
P.S: I would still call it statutory rape.... Yup definitely!

Normally i like age gap stuff, even with sex, but this seem a bit off . Not only the teacher is a little bit pushy for sex, but obviously she's playing with her, so ... yeah.

^ I felt the same way... I sort of skipped the sex itself, since the relationship felt too off for me to read through it.

Hmm... being a teacher in all-girl schools sure are fun.....

One of this author's works that I didn't actually like that much.

I felt like a creepo reading this. Glad I was the only one.

This should have a lolicon tag.

I like age gap which is actually a favorite genre of mine, but this taints the age gap genre in my opinion. Girl looks like she's in elementary or junior high school. I stopped reading at the kiss.

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I could actually predict all the Retarded and overly Hysterical comments over a stupid porn oneshot in this forum this time, so that must mean my powers as an oracle are manifesting themselves. Thanks for that, I suppose.

Besides which, the teacher really does appear to be either playing with her

She proclaims her love for this girl while she is alone in a room and talking to herself. Yup, she does appear to be only playing with her because that makes a lot of sense if you don't pay attention to the Blatantly Obvious.

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I would like to remind everyone that the age of consent in japan is like 13? so technically yes she did give consent, not that you guys will listen to me because "how dare this piece of totally harmful childporn be up here" even though its just agegap.

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I personally didn't get a weird creepy feeling from this or a lolicon feeling from it. She looked like a 1st year high school student to me so probably around 15 and the teacher maybe like 22. The age gap isn't too bad and even though it is technically illegal because she is having sex with a minor, I felt it was consensual. Toono looked like she had a good head on her shoulder and knew what she was doing so I didn't feel like she was "manipulated" into having sex with the teacher.

Overall, I feel like people are getting creepy vibes simply because the story wasn't written well.

What's up with people claiming that works like these are child porn nowadays? Since when a drawing is a child? Are we gonna start complaining about any work with violent content because is hurting fictional people too?

On the actual story, was cute but shallow, everything happened just because not by a natural development through the plot. Hope the continuation develops the characters better.

What's up with people claiming that works like these are child porn nowadays? Since when a drawing is a child? Are we gonna start complaining about any work with violent content because is hurting fictional people too?

fox news already does this

This story is a bit different even though the teach is a bit of a playgirl.