takachi posted:
So where's the joke?
That's why Nya-chan called him psycho.
Also, I don't see how it represents anything about homosexuals, if anything it represents a male desire for sexual intercourse/masturbation, likely driven by high-level of androgens.
Except you're forgetting that homosexuals are often stereotyped as very sex driven and dangerous to be around, exactly because there's the assumption that all they can think about is fucking every person of the same gender they see and it takes all their effort to suppress those urges to avoid turning into uncontrollable rapists. Exactly how he's portrayed here. While men are often portrayed to always wanting/thinking about sex, they're never demonized to such degree and portrayed as if their simple existence is a danger.
We haven't seen Gin's friend from other sides much, so I have no idea how one can make a fair evaluation/judgement of his true character given such a narrow perspective.
And that's exactly the issue. He barely gets any spotlight/character and yet the one thing author goes out of their way to portray is how much he agonizes about not being able to fuck Gin. That's exactly portraying homosexuals as 1 dimensional stereotypes.
Are you saying all manga that you read portrays the LGBT characters as weirdos or terrible people and not the other way?
I never said so, but you need to be incredibly ignorant to think that it never was a common issue in the media. For very long time LGBT people were rarely portrayed in media and when they did, they were almost always portrayed as a villains. For the longest time, being gay/lesbian etc. was considered a villain trait, because only those characters exhibited those traits. It got better overtime, but tendency to portraying LGBT characters in negative light is still pretty common one. We barely have characters that have other role first and foremost and are LGBT second (it's just part of their identity). Most of the time, those characters are written as LGBT first and their being LGBT is entire focus on their character. I'd say it's a long way before LGBT characters are normalized in media as just people first.
Actually, why of all things do LGBT characters have to be portrayed as saints? That is plain, boring, cardboard, and unrealistic. Can't they just be portrayed as humans? With their positive and negative sides regardless of their sexuality and identity?
You're missing the point, since nobody even argued they're supposed to be only saints and you clung to it for some reason. Anyway, I actually share your perspective on that. I think LGBT characters should be portrayed both ways. The issue is, historically they were only portrayed in negative way for very long time, so now people try to overcorrect it by never portraying them in negative way at all. While getting more positive representation is a good thing, studios etc. who try to score on woke points, now pretty much mandates that you can't see LGBT characters doing anything considered bad, ever. So it's nice LGBT characters are not delegated to being bad guys by default anymore, they're only being portrayed in good light and any show that have LGBT character shown doing something bad is automatically criticized by people who lived through those dark times. So we have issue with this work exactly because it seems to be doing the same thing those old shows did, by portraying all LGBT people only in bad light.
plot devices driving the story, which does indeed end up being artificially exaggerated. And that is fine as it creates the situations in which the characters act to express some of their traits in front of the reader.
You say it's "only initial premise and way to get story going". I say "the fact you need to do it in order to get story going in the first place is the entire issue".
EDIT/ bubbleteabird My point exactly.
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