Either way... Mirror season has started, and... goddamn this feels easy, I am used to fighting a lot tougher teams, but when a Yachiyo hits my Nanaka with a full puella combo and that's not even half of my Nanaka's HP, that feels so good, and I can feel the ear-to-ear Cheshire cat-tier smile forming on my face...

Way to flex, my lvl 75 Moemura/Kyoko and the only lvl 100 I have, Kaede, would beg to disagree. XD I have 40% win rate so far, which only happened by refreshing match ups five times. I think I'm just going to focus on getting as many medals as possible and say fuck it to trying to rank anywhere. XD

Why won't the game give me my sheep horns. That's all I need to max out Tsuruno's magia level and thus get her doppel. :(

On another note today I spent four tickets. Two on the light banner which I got a copy of Hazuki, one on the dark banner where I got Emiri and another on the general banner where I also got a copy of Hazuki. With both of those copies of Hazuki I was able to get her a second slot and also have one left over. I then maxed her level out and put all mats except for the rainbow orbs which I have none of right now.

As for the mirrors ranking I decided to give it a try and won my first two rounds that I attempted using the team of: Ashley, Ultimate Madoka, Moemura, and Mayu. It's not as hard as I though it'd be, but then again, I'm picking the weaker opponent and am not really getting a good score for winning. Regardless it's nice getting double the mirror coins you normally get for wins (and losses).

Just in case, there's no difference for currency who you fight. You always get 6/3 for win and 3/1 for a lose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magiarecord/comments/gkjb6d/manaka_kurumi_5star_uncap_new_4star_girl_tsumugi/

Kurumi uncap on JP + a girl that is basically Uwasa Ruby Kurosawa

https://www.reddit.com/r/magiarecord/comments/gkjb6d/manaka_kurumi_5star_uncap_new_4star_girl_tsumugi/

Kurumi uncap on JP + a girl that is basically Uwasa Ruby Kurosawa

Ha. The only thing I've done with that one is be vaguely irritated by the fact that I draw her so often she's basically already 4 slotted and still level 1

Yeah, while I was preaching going all in, I agree with Nevri that if you are struggling it is legitimately best to just take easy wins for low points and instead focus on the shop, specially the tix, there is no real benefit in Mirror rank other than being a shiny badge, so it is more of a "if you can do it great" kinda situation.

Kurumi uncap on JP

I went "literally who" for a moment there before going "Isn't Manaka the one getting her 5*? is that Manaka's surname? checks phone Oh it is...", I am way too used to think of these girls by their first name...

I suppose that puts her in the list for me to focus on raising Magia, she will be after Meru... right now I am focusing on Kako then Meiyui...

Well I bought the platinum pack today and decided on Ren even though I have a decent number of dark magical girls already. The other ones I was eying were: Mitama (for void element), Rena (for tsundere and joining her wife Kaede), Karin (because she's cute), and Alina (for the crazy factor). Ultimately Ren won and thus is able to join her girlfriend Rika in my team.

Edit: I finished all of my PVP battles for today with a mere 17K points. Not too bad since I picked only the weakest opponents (most of whom had Iroha in their team).

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Ultimately Ren won and thus is able to join her girlfriend Rika in my team.

Cute. That's the only ending this game needs.

I've finally caught up with the main story chapters released in NA so far. I'm actually really excited for chapter 10 now. I've seen people say the story's not as good as the original, and I had moments too where I was wondering when they'd get to the next plot point already or "the amount of fighting they're doing is ridiculous" or whatever, but overall, I like the main direction it's going in. Maybe I'm not genre-savvy enough, but the end of chapter 9 genuinely took me off guard.

The difficulty spike during the boss battles was a nice touch. If I hadn't used a bunch of whale supports, I would have had no chance of clearing those battles with my current team.

By the way, are we supposed to be talking about Magia Record doujin in here or does that not matter? XD

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By the way, are we supposed to be talking about Magia Record doujin in here or does that not matter? XD

I don't think it matters.

riverFlower posted:

By the way, are we supposed to be talking about Magia Record doujin in here or does that not matter? XD

Technically it's thread for doujinshi related discussion, not anime or game, but since the one shadesofgreymoon made before didn't take off and I don't think we're bothering anyone, especially since outside of discussing parings I guess, nobody really comments on actual doujinshi tags, I think it's fine. It's a whole lot better than having wall of text discussions under images, that's for sure.

Also

I've seen people say the story's not as good as the original, and I had moments too where I was wondering when they'd get to the next plot point already or "the amount of fighting they're doing is ridiculous" or whatever, but overall, I like the main direction it's going in.

I have a lot to say about story and have some issues with it, but overall I actually really like the general take on it. I think it's very underrated, especially now thanks to anime butchering it completely.

The difficulty spike during the boss battles was a nice touch. If I hadn't used a bunch of whale supports, I would have had no chance of clearing those battles with my current team.

Had to replay some fights, because her megucas killed enemies before she could connect Y-Yes

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@riverFlower There's no other place to discuss the game since no official works have been uploaded (due to licensing?) so this threads probably the best place to talk about the game.

I need more MomoMita, KaeRena, IroSana, and Amanecest. There's never enough of those ships.

^ I'd personally rather get more doujins of IroYachi. We got so many images of them, yet only two doujins. I'm especially interested in the anthology mentioned in the comments of this image

Here's an interesting bit of news... there was a previous browser-based Madoka game called Madoka Online which can be considered MagiReco's predecessor, Madoka Online was shut down after 998 days of activity, yesterday MagiReco reached 999 days, passing its predecessor in age, and today, MagiReco is 1000 days old, here's a piece of celebratory art I've come across, but how is that for a milestone?

I have a lot to say about story and have some issues with it, but overall I actually really like the general take on it. I think it's very underrated, especially now thanks to anime butchering it completely.

I feel MagiReco in particular has the usual gacha story issue of starting really slow, the story doesn't quite kick into gear until chapter 6 even if it was clearly going somewhere before, but once it does it gets fairly solid, I particularly love chapter 8 for using its medium to its fullest, as chapter 8 only works as well as it does because this is a gacha, and we were already introduced to most characters appearing in the chapter in earlier stories or events, so they don't have to spend any time introducing them there, one particular detail I stood out with myself is that when you meet Masara, she is very visibly angry, and since I already knew the character well enough, my first thought was "Wait, shit, is Kokoro okay?" since Masara so rarely displays emotion, and then then that turns out to be the exact issue in that scene.

Had to replay some fights, because her megucas killed enemies before she could connect Y-Yes

My issue consistently been when I doze off and forget to Connect at all, and I am left with staring at the result screen and only thinking "...wait."

Though I agree there is a difficulty spike even if it is by no means out of hand to me, chapters 8 and 9 are notably harder than chapter 7, and some fights were legitimately tricky when i was clearing Challenge mode.

I need more MomoMita, KaeRena, IroSana, and Amanecest.

For KaeRena at least, I could recommend you this artist, she uploads a lot of sketches, but her focus is primarily KaeRena with some occasional AliKari(and MomoMita at least once), she also draws the fluffiest Kaede in the world, just look at her!

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@BV I was browsing Pixiv and found this which has nearly 140 pictures of YachiIro including a few with science/magic babies in them.

@Veya, your team can do the challenge mode versions of chapter 8 and 9? My team often struggled against the normal version of some of the later fights in particular the fights against the Rumor of Fendt Hope

I have challenge mode completely cleared, so yes I can, though I also don't feel I was doing anything special, most of the time I was just throwing OG Homura or Madokami at the problem along with some suitable Support and watching it solve itself, 4 slots on them is a helluva drug, and it helps that the Uwasa of the chapter is particularly weak to Homura, being Light element and having wide areas making it weak to continuous Blast stun spam.

I guess having 4 slots for a natural 4 star unit would make it somewhat easier than what I did. From what I remember I tried a magia focused team with 4s Rika, Mifuyu, Kokoro, 2s Ultimate Madoka (or was it 2s Mayu?) and a random accel gorilla (usually either another Rika or Mifuyu). The problem I found was I couldn't charge my magia gauge fast enough while dealing with both damage and status effects the boss dealt. Now that my Mifuyu is 2s and I've got 5 doppels (soon to be six once Iroha's uncap comes) I suppose it'd be easier. Maybe anyway?

Also I totally forgot about existence of the original Madoka Online. Thanks for reminding me about it. It was interesting to read the wiki articles about how the game played and compare it to the current one (Magia Record).

Edit: Today's matches in Mirrors Ranking went mostly well. I only lost one battle with an enemy team composed of: Tsuruno, Yachiyo, and Ashley. Had just defeated the enemy Ashley but then Yachiyo used ignore defense plus a blast combo killing all of my team except for my own Ashley.

Further edit: Almost done with getting mats to get my Ren to 5* just need 2 more sheep horns and 6 more plaque cords. Am farming the appropriate stages according to the wiki, although it'll probably take a few pots to get all the needed mats (without using my daily coins). After that I'll need to wait till the right day to farm dark xp cards since I've used most of my stock up.

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@riverFlower There's no other place to discuss the game since no official works have been uploaded (due to licensing?) so this threads probably the best place to talk about the game.

Wait official works? Oh you mean things like the manga adaptation of MR? I got excited for a moment wondering if there were official MR works outside of the main story lol.

Had to replay some fights, because her megucas killed enemies before she could connect Y-Yes

That was only me chapter 6 and below. XD

I guess having 4 slots for a natural 4 star unit would make it somewhat easier than what I did.

4 slot, max memoria, maxed out nat 4* unit blow pretty much all story content released so far out of the water. The support Ashley I used took down the Uwasa of the Queen Bear in one turn once there was a Puella combo.

Rant incoming, just cause I do like the story a lot. Chapter 6-9 definitely all had multiple moments I loved and that I found impactful.

Chapter 6: Iroha getting angry because of Yachiyo's survivor guilt leading to her pushing them away and taking a stand??? Still the most emotionally raw scene in the main story for me. I like how it gets lampshaded too right after they leave the museum, by Iroha ruefully admitting she'd said a lot of cool stuff right before they almost got killed by Holy Mami. Also the chapter with an example of good gameplay/story integration, because I at least really felt the weight of needing to beat the Uwasa given what it would prove to Yachiyo. In addition, this chapter proved to me that that IroYa is canon. I mean Iroha is literally the only person out of the team who doesn't get brainwashed, partly because she trusted Yachiyo's judgment. And then when Yachiyo finally calls Iroha by her first name, my internal monologue was a series of keyboard smashes.

Chapter 7: Tsuruno finally having a place she could relax. How her having a blank face became a plot point/expanded on was something I liked, just cause I'd never thought of it that way before. Chapter 7's map layout was clever and really gave a sense of reality to the city, fleshing it out. I'd never thought about what schools they went to or where they came from, but that chapter recontextualized all of it to show how those were important in shaping their backgrounds, perspectives, and who they have relationships with. I didn't think that the writers would have thought it through in such detail. I love how they purposefully introduced Kanagi as a total badass.

Chapter 8: Chapter 8 was so tedious honestly, that was my least favorite chapter to play through because there were so many battles, and the story was mostly about setting them up to all get dragged into the conflict or lines about them fighting. Also I didn't fully get how Yachiyo got through to Mami. I don't actually get what they connected on, so that part wasn't fully believable. But that it did bring in all of the other magical girls in the entire city definitely upped the stakes, in addition to introducing Walpurgisnacht.

Chapter 9: And then Chapter 9 more than made up for anything chapter 8 lacked. Still a lot of dialogue about fighting, but the way everything they do falls exactly into what the Magius are looking for was great. Mifuyu sacrificing all her power and potentially life to destroy the Uwasa, only for that to be what the Magius wanted, was quite tragic. Ui being revealed as Eve was wtf.

So I vacillate between feeling the way the stakes are raised sequentially is like a typical action story and too boring to feeling punched in the gut by character motivations and actions. This isn't even half of what I could say, but rant over.

Veya posted:

as chapter 8 only works as well as it does because this is a gacha, and we were already introduced to most characters appearing in the chapter in earlier stories or events, so they don't have to spend any time introducing them there,

True, though of course it assumes you own all those girls and/or read their episode stories. For example Rika's conversation with Ren doesn't make much sense when you don't know Rika's story and you won't realize the brilliant role switch unless you read Ren's story. On that note I was really annoyed that while they were showcasing all those characters, we never got to see Mito, Seika and Leila and when they did finally show up, it was only blink and you'll miss it 1 scene without any dialogue. I was really disappointed by that, because Seika is my spiritual animal.

one particular detail I stood out with myself is that when you meet Masara, she is very visibly angry, and since I already knew the character well enough, my first thought was "Wait, shit, is Kokoro okay?" since Masara so rarely displays emotion, and then then that turns out to be the exact issue in that scene.

Yea, I noticed it too. I was like "Wow, Masara is actually pissed off."

My issue consistently been when I doze off and forget to Connect at all, and I am left with staring at the result screen and only thinking "...wait."

Hahah xD Honestly, the "connect" thing might seem to be easy enough at first, but when you play it with 5 meguca team (like I do) to farm their episode lvls, it can be often pretty hard to connect, if you're not careful and kinda makes first time auto option useless, when you can't just let AI do the job (since AI sucks so much).

Though I agree there is a difficulty spike even if it is by no means out of hand to me, chapters 8 and 9 are notably harder than chapter 7, and some fights were legitimately tricky when i was clearing Challenge mode.

Only fights I felt were any harder were the ones against all 3 magius and it was only "I didn't one shot them with 1 Puella Combo". I finally started doing challenges (had never time to do it, thanks to NA temp, only recently finished all episode stories, for that same reason) and I'm at chapter 3 or 4 and so far I just let auto do the job and didn't feel especially "challenged". I was honestly sure they'll be really hard from first quest...

riverFlower posted:

Had to replay some fights, because her megucas killed enemies before she could connect Y-Yes

That was only me chapter 6 and below. XD

During first fight against Queen Bear I had 1 slot Momoko with bond memoria and her Puella charge combo dealt barely any dmg. So I was like "wow finally something harder". Next turn I got blast Puella combo on 4 slot Nanaka, so I used both Yachiyo memoria and Kyouko memoria (max lvl and limit), thinking she should do decent damage with that. She killed it...

Chapter 6: this chapter proved to me that that IroYa is canon.

I mean. Iroha pretty much proposed marriage to Yachiyo, saying she'll stay with her forever so...

Chapter 7: Tsuruno finally having a place she could relax. How her having a blank face became a plot point/expanded on was something I liked, just cause I'd never thought of it that way before.

Yea. I didn't expect it either. I just assumed it was because she was brainwashed, so when it turned out it was actually her relaxed face it was a unexpected twist.

Chapter 7's map layout was clever and really gave a sense of reality to the city, fleshing it out.

While the usage of map was nice, what killed it for me was the insanely slow pace they were releasing those at. Normally 1 episode has like 6-9 parts, so releasing 2 at the time was fine, but here they had 1-2 missions and they still were releasing them only 2 at the time so it made it really drag for me. Releasing chapter 8 and 9 in 2 parts fixed this issue for me.

Chapter 8: Chapter 8 was so tedious honestly, that was my least favorite chapter to play through because there were so many battles

I mean. Every mission has a fight, whatever it's related to story or a random one. I think you felt that, because we were fighting zombie Feathers for like 90% story and they actually were a bit harder than usually spamming annoying skills every turn and it was 3 waves of them so the repetition is probably what made it feel tedious. I know it made me feel so.

, and the story was mostly about setting them up to all get dragged into the conflict or lines about them fighting.

I personally liked it specifically, because it stopped being just Yachiyo team vs Magius and everyone got dragged into it. Also seeing other megucas interact with the cast was half the fun of this chapter. Second half was seeing them react to the truth, and while they didn't go into it nearly as hard as I hoped they would, they still delivered for the most part.

Also I didn't fully get how Yachiyo got through to Mami. I don't actually get what they connected on, so that part wasn't fully believable.

Because she didn't. She simply used all her strength and forcefully separated Mami from Rumor, when their magic clashed. Mami's true feelings only poured into her after that and she finally understood what Mami was going through. So it completely disregarded everything that was established when fighting Tsuruno and how you need to really understand other person in order to separate them from Rumor and how simply brute-forcing it won't work. That's why I was incredibly disappointed with that resolution, because after Tsuruno, I was sure they were setting it up for Madoka and co. to be the ones to fight Mami and free her. If I was rewriting the story, that'd be the first thing I'd changed.

Chapter 9: Mifuyu sacrificing all her power and potentially life to destroy the Uwasa, only for that to be what the Magius wanted, was quite tragic.

I was honestly surprised with it, because one thing that I accepted every since I started playing MR is that nobody will ever die, because they can't, because it's gacha game. I'm honestly curious how they'll handle it, but i'm feeling some bs coming and Mitama will fix her gem or something.

Ui being revealed as Eve was wtf.

This one confused me so much, because it doesn't make any sense based on what we know and how I thought they're going to handle it, so until we'll get explanation on that, I'm going to hold back on commenting on it.

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While the usage of map was nice, what killed it for me was the insanely slow pace they were releasing those at.

Oh, absolutely, Chapter 7 was a drag and every time we got a tiny bit of it, and it wasn't over, I started spamming our Discord server with "I want to get off Mr. Chapter 7's Wild Ride...", frankly I wish they hadn't messed that up so badly as well because otherwise we could have got the end of chapter 10 towards the end of April, in other words, we would've been able to fight Walpurgisnacht on Walpurginacht.

Chapter 8: Mami stuff

Okay so, here's the real reason the Yachiyo vs Mami fight happened... because people wanted it, no, seriously, that's the entire reason, they are both the eldest of their respective teams, people had been making fanart of the two fighting since the game launched, when push comes to shove, that entire scene is fanservice, and being able to identify it as fanservice, I allowed myself to get lost in the scene and enjoy it for what it is, and it is really fucking cool, probably the coolest fight scene in the game thus far, even if it is not great plot-wise.

That's not even the first time they've done this to Mami, fanservice is also the entire reason why Homura vs Mami happened in Rebellion, from a meta-narrative perspective, just that there was a better plot justification for that fight so you don't think about it as much.

Chapter 9: Ui stuff

As someone who knows everything that happens in the story up to current JP story release... I will say it makes sense, and it is frankly while there is nothing that foreshadows "Eve is Ui", there is a very big piece of foreshadowing to "Ui is involved with the Magius", where in chapter 5, Ai says that "as an Uwasa", she knew Ui, the big twist is the nature of the involvement.

Kuro's so useless... I just threw a few pvp matches by making a team composed of just Kuro and nobody else and went into a ranked battle. She sure did get stomped under Alina's boot super quick.

Veya posted:

Okay so, here's the real reason the Yachiyo vs Mami fight happened... because people wanted it

Oh don't get me wrong. I knew that was part of the reason. I mean I even commented in the anime thread that as much as that scene didn't made sense, it still is awesome idea and I'd want to see it animated. Still we easily could get it and the proper conclusion if you handled story properly.

I will say it makes sense, and it is frankly while there is nothing that foreshadows "Eve is Ui", there is a very big piece of foreshadowing to "Ui is involved with the Magius", where in chapter 5, Ai says that "as an Uwasa", she knew Ui, the big twist is the nature of the involvement.

Oh I don't doubt (in fact I hope that) it makes sense. Actually I knew Ui is involved with Magius since the prologue of the game (that's why I'm conficled whatever omitting it in manga/anime was good, because it build more mystery, or bad, because it removed information that any game player would have). In prologue we see Ui giving the "can be saved" speech to Homura, which at the time I thought will be entire hook of the game (I could rant about my mixed feeling how Homura's involvement was handled), so we as players knew that Ui is connected to Magius in some way. Later when we learned her existence was erased and Rumors were introduced, I started connecting dots that consensually or not, Touka and Nemu turned Ui into Rumor, similar way Tsuruno, Mami and Alina were fused with one, but Ui's seems to be permanent and cost of it was erasing her from existence. My suspicious were confirmed when Ai (that conversation is another whole rant) said she knows Ui, but as Rumor. So it was pretty clearly that Ui was turned into some Rumor that purpose is gathering magical girls in Kamihama (at first it seemed like just any magical girls, but then later it was said that Magius supposedly only recruit girls who know the truth, so maybe she only appears to them? Like why she only appeared before Homura?). As soon as we saw Eve in chapel, I figured she was responsible for Doppel effect, but I still thought she and Ui were 2 separate things. Ui was a Rumor to gather magical girls in Kamihama, to recruit them to their cause and Eve was the way they would reach salvation. So when it was suddenly revealed that Eve is Ui, I'm not sure how that works anymore, because it'd suddenly imply Eve has like 2, maybe 3 purposes? She handles Doppel effect and also gives girl's dreams about Ui to lure them into Kamihama? She was deliberately stated to be a witch and not Rumor, so her having that kind of power seems kinda contradictory. Also rumors don't change and have 1 set in stone purpose so Ui could only always lure girls into Kamihama, but I guess once they'd hatch Eve and spreed Doppel over the world, it'd become irrelevant as they no longer need to recruit people. In general I kinda feel like that was always my issue with this story mystery. There are hints for it, but they're so far spread and often seemingly forgotten it barely works as mystery and there are some redherrings/dropped points too. I personally can't decided if it's actually good or not. So yes, I was trying to piece that clusterfuck since day 1 and the further we go into story, the less sense it makes to me, so I'm seriously waiting for some damn explanation already. I had few spoilers for ending and was always under the impression that ultimately Iroha will find Ui and rescue her or whatever (especially since her meguca form will be added to the game), but now that she was turned(?) into some abomination I'm honestly not sure if it's possible anymore. On one hand, if Ui is pretty much dead it's sad, but fitting with Madoka tone (and kind of people Magius are), but on the other hand, man it's fucked up and I'd feel bad if Iroha won't be able to save Ui.

Sakura Cartelet posted:

Kuro's so useless... I just threw a few pvp matches by making a team composed of just Kuro and nobody else and went into a ranked battle. She sure did get stomped under Alina's boot super quick.

Em, did you expect her to do anything other than lose? Especially when you used only her against mirror teams?

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Something about story we haven't been commenting on though, is Another Story, which while much shorter than the main story, since it mainly serves to fill the gaps with the Mitakihara team, it actually has some of my favorite story moments, with my top favorite being AS Chapter 6 where after learning the truth about Soul Gems and witches, as well as learning they had lost Mami to the Magius due to brainwashing, Madoka and Sayaka are freaking out(Homura less so cuz she already knew, but y'now...), but once Madoka calms down enough, she has this massive burst of confidence, and that girl starts acting like the protagonist like she never had before and takes a position of leadership, goes on a massive speech that manages to calm down Sayaka and put her back on track, and we even get a few reactions from Homura as she gets to be reminded why she loves Madoka all over again, and while the next chapter shows this is all very overwhelming to her, she is holding on the best she can... I dunno, there is something about Leader Madoka that just gets me really pumped and excited...

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Yea, that's something I don't think most people think of appreciating. Thanks to the way OG animu works we never really see Madoka acting like actual magical girl, so the fact we get to experience it properly in game is actually really nice.

Veya posted:
Em, did you expect her to do anything other than lose? Especially when you used only her against mirror teams?

No I expected her to lose simply so I would avoid gaining too many points for the next round. Hopefully I'll end up fighting some easy opponents then.

Oh sure, cos Kuro losing fights is kinda her entire purpose, so it's kinda weird calling her useless for doing that xD