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5000 comments later what did I miss guys =D yea way too much negativity the recent development was done well I can't wait to finish this manga!
Yuzu is way too selfish on this one. She came out of the closet and forced Mei to do so. This isn't something you do for someone. This is a personal choice and even though it went very well, she shouldn't have done that.
Plus, she is forcing this relationship. Mei chose another path, and Yuzu doesn't respect that. Love doesn't justify all means. Let's imagine Mei is coming back to Yuzu, I don't think she will be thrilled AT ALL that Yuzu say all of those things.
The fact that everyone is supportive is great but I really don't like how it happened. This is either poorly written or it will backfire at Yuzu (and even though Mei had been hard on her, she would deserve it this time).
Mei did not chose another path. it got forced onto her by her heartless grandfather.
Mei did not chose another path. it got forced onto her by her heartless grandfather.
Cant believe people still honestly believe this. I guess you have to if you want to keep thinking that Mei is a good person.
I think this chapter is ridiculous. How come their parents just accept the fact that their daughter dating her own step sister.
Is not so shocking, they didn't grow up together, they're the same age too and is not like they had any vote in the matter of living together... If you're told "You can't fall in love with this person but you'll live together from now on... By the way, she is super pretty!" I guess you'll be like "Oh, okay ... noted!" ??
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Mei did not chose another path. it got forced onto her by her heartless grandfather.
Cant believe people still honestly believe this. I guess you have to if you want to keep thinking that Mei is a good person.
But it is true. Ever since she was a child he put pressure on her, telling her how much her father sucks and how he wants her to take over the academy and keep the "family tradition" (which is no tradition since he is the first one owning the school).
Im fucking excited to see what happens. Ive been following this for ages but now I think Im really into it again.
Well, this is gonna end in like 2-3 chapters. Timeskip and resolution after dealing with all tasks. Lame.
But it is true. Ever since she was a child he put pressure on her, telling her how much her father sucks and how he wants her to take over the academy and keep the "family tradition" (which is no tradition since he is the first one owning the school).
It isnt true. He didnt put pressure on her when she chose to stay behind when Shou decided to leave. Gramps didnt even raise her. Mei still lived in her dads house by herself. We have never heard of gramps opinion on Shou.
^But they started "dating" in volume 4 :)
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31
I took a look at the raw for the page, and what Matsuri says on panel 3 is (more or less):
"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone,
but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."Just a small detail, I guess.
Wow, seriously? Damn. I don't understand, how come the translation doesn't show that? I always complain Saburouta is vague, but maybe it's the translations after all. I mean that basically settles the matter. So sad for Harumin :-(
I don’t ever read Citrus raws, so I’m not sure how the translation has been for the other chapters, but the line above specifically mentions “Yuzu-chan”, so I don’t even know how it came out so vague in the end product (￣▽￣)
So folks in Reddit are commenting something interesting.
Tthat we cannot be sure about whether Harumin likes Yuzu or not, because Matsuri didn't even hear the whole thing and it was vague anyway (as evidenced by Nene wanting to go closer so they could hear the whole convo).
But what DID for sure happen is that Matsuri jumped to the conclusion Harumin does likes Yuzu, and now might think Yuzu has already or is in the process of accepting Harumin's feelings. So she now sees Yuzu as a rival, which is why she mentioned that Yuzu is already "raising the flag of victory" (remember she sees love as a game). And she is plotting revenge, either because: (1) she thinks if Yuzu and Harumin are together, and so she is free to have revenge on Mei as a venting target for her frustration at not getting Harumin, or (2) because she thinks by pushing Mei and Yuzu to be together again, she can have a chance with Harumin.
My opinion as HaruminxMatsuri shipper: the plot twist here is that Harumin's face was sad because she likes Matsuri but due to her "on the fence" personality is not going to be out about it like Yuzu. It was a face of "damn, I don't have the guts to be this brave". Matsuri will try to nuke everything, end up getting a confession from Harumin and save YuzuMei inadvertently in the process :P
Well, this is gonna end in like 2-3 chapters. Timeskip and resolution after dealing with all tasks. Lame.
Given that you just wrote that ending in your head, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Well, this is gonna end in like 2-3 chapters. Timeskip and resolution after dealing with all tasks. Lame.
Given that you just wrote that ending in your head, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Will see.
Well, this is gonna end in like 2-3 chapters. Timeskip and resolution after dealing with all tasks. Lame.
Given that you just wrote that ending in your head, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Predictive lamenting—it’s like opiates only way better. (Evidently.)
Well, this is gonna end in like 2-3 chapters. Timeskip and resolution after dealing with all tasks. Lame.
Given that you just wrote that ending in your head, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Predictive lamenting—it’s like opiates only way better. (Evidently.)
What hath science wrought?
I think this chapter is ridiculous. How come their parents just accept the fact that their daughter dating her own step sister.
Because they're caring and understanding parents, and they've been pretty liberal (even bohemian at times) for the entire comic? And because a stepsister isn't a blood relation, so it isn't incest, and there's nothing wrong with being gay, and you can't help who you fall in love with anyway. I'd probably move them to separate bedrooms, but I wouldn't have a problem with it if it were a kid of mine.
Honestly, the common trope here is the parents find out and react badly, but that wouldn't have made sense at all given the way they comport themselves. I'm exceptionally refreshed to see GOOD parents in a Yuri story for once.
Yuzu is way too selfish on this one. She came out of the closet and forced Mei to do so. This isn't something you do for someone. This is a personal choice and even though it went very well, she shouldn't have done that.
Plus, she is forcing this relationship. Mei chose another path, and Yuzu doesn't respect that. Love doesn't justify all means. Let's imagine Mei is coming back to Yuzu, I don't think she will be thrilled AT ALL that Yuzu say all of those things.
The fact that everyone is supportive is great but I really don't like how it happened. This is either poorly written or it will backfire at Yuzu (and even though Mei had been hard on her, she would deserve it this time).
Agree with this.
We don't actually know what Yuzu said, though. She could easily have admitted her feelings and attraction to Mei without stating that Mei likes her back. I doubt it, but it's possible. Of course, there is the fact also that she's a kid and doesn't know a damn thing about gay culture, so it's likely she doesn't even know that she "came out", or that outing Mei is bad. But Mei isn't any less selfish. She made all of these decisions without even talking to Yuzu about them, and left her feeling desperate, broken, lonely, and helpless as a result.
But you expect that when kids are stepping into their first romance. They're young and stupid. They aren't supposed to be role models.
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I think this chapter is ridiculous. How come their parents just accept the fact that their daughter dating her own step sister.
I mean, you could apply the same logic to any other story out there. How come no one bats an eye to how much of a shit parent Goku is? Because its a manga about super powerful aliens. Same thing in Citrus, its a manga about fake incest where the parents barely said anything at all or made an appearance.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31
I took a look at the raw for the page, and what Matsuri says on panel 3 is (more or less):
"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone,
but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."Just a small detail, I guess.
Wow, seriously? Damn. I don't understand, how come the translation doesn't show that? I always complain Saburouta is vague, but maybe it's the translations after all. I mean that basically settles the matter. So sad for Harumin :-(
I don’t ever read Citrus raws, so I’m not sure how the translation has been for the other chapters, but the line above specifically mentions “Yuzu-chan”, so I don’t even know how it came out so vague in the end product (￣▽￣)
So folks in Reddit are commenting something interesting.
Tthat we cannot be sure about whether Harumin likes Yuzu or not, because Matsuri didn't even hear the whole thing and it was vague anyway (as evidenced by Nene wanting to go closer so they could hear the whole convo).
But what DID for sure happen is that Matsuri jumped to the conclusion Harumin does likes Yuzu, and now might think Yuzu has already or is in the process of accepting Harumin's feelings. So she now sees Yuzu as a rival, which is why she mentioned that Yuzu is already "raising the flag of victory" (remember she sees love as a game). And she is plotting revenge, either because: (1) she thinks if Yuzu and Harumin are together, and so she is free to have revenge on Mei as a venting target for her frustration at not getting Harumin, or (2) because she thinks by pushing Mei and Yuzu to be together again, she can have a chance with Harumin.
My opinion as HaruminxMatsuri shipper: the plot twist here is that Harumin's face was sad because she likes Matsuri but due to her "on the fence" personality is not going to be out about it like Yuzu. It was a face of "damn, I don't have the guts to be this brave". Matsuri will try to nuke everything, end up getting a confession from Harumin and save YuzuMei inadvertently in the process :P
If this wasn't Citrus of all things, I'd be inclined to agree with you, LOL... But remember that Matsuri is some kind of super keen, ultra-observant hyper-genius. Ever since she was introduced, she has always been seemingly aware of everything going on beneath the surface, even if just vaguely. Most likely, she's always known that Harumi had (or has) romantic feelings for Yuzu. Nene wanted to get closer because she ISN'T an ultra-observant hyper-genius like Matsuri is, and ISN'T aware of anything that's going on. Hell, she most likely isn't even aware that something could be going on between Yuzu and Mei, even though the rest of her friends might've had an inkling about it.
Frankly, Matsuri sees everything like a game, due to her being an avid gamer, LOL. Matsuri is 99% already aware of the talk that Yuzu had with Harumi. The only way to get Harumi to make that kind of pained expression is by finding out that her love will never come true, and the only way to make that happen is if Yuzu told Harumi about Mei, which is exactly what happened. "Raising the flag of victory" is most likely referring to Yuzu, who now looks more confident in her ability to find Mei after confiding in Harumi. Basically, Yuzu's celebrating prematurely, as if she had already won the battle (to bring Mei back) just by talking it out with her best friend. Because of this newfound confidence instilled in Yuzu, Matsuri wonders what Yuzu's next move will be.
About Matsuri's "revenge" though... My guess is that Matsuri can hardly wait for Yuzu to bring Mei back so she can get her "revenge" (probably just a prank). I think this is her mischievous and subtle way of believing that Yuzu has the power to do so. This is probably her way of silently encouraging Yuzu's plan from the shadows. ("Bring her back so I can toy with her!" kind of scenario, maybe?)
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Yeah I totally agree with you that what you describe is the likely scenario, as Matsuri has been like a Seer or Oracle from day 1 lol
It would only be what I said if there was a final plot twist in the series. Also because in chapter 37, Harumin tells Matsuri the following: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch37#6. I think someone on Reddit mentioned in the raw she says something like "you are not always right".
Yeah I totally agree with you that what you describe is the likely scenario, as Matsuri has been like a Seer or Oracle from day 1 lol
It would only be what I said if there was a final plot twist in the series. Also because in chapter 37, Harumin tells Matsuri the following: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch37#6. I think someone on Reddit mentioned in the raw she says something like "you are not always right".
That's such a minor scene, I don't believe it implies anything about Matsuri's perceptiveness. Also, if we are to assume that Matsuri has feelings for Harumin (and as a Harumi x Matsuri shipper, I sure hope so), she most likely has observed Harumin's behavior the most out of anybody and knows her best out of the rest of the cast members. I'm definitely willing to bet that she knew what the talk between Yuzu and Harumin was about in the latest chapter.
Also, here's what I would've translated the last two panels of page 5, and the first two of page 6 to (not much different than what's been released though, lol):
Matsuri: Personally, I thought he genuinely wanted to get along with me...
Matsuri: So, you know...
Harumi: Well... Everybody's different, and they all have their own ways of thinking.
Harumi: Besides, that's just your opinion, isn't it?
She doesn't say anything like "you are not always right."
Yuzu is way too selfish on this one. She came out of the closet and forced Mei to do so. This isn't something you do for someone. This is a personal choice and even though it went very well, she shouldn't have done that.
Plus, she is forcing this relationship. Mei chose another path, and Yuzu doesn't respect that. Love doesn't justify all means. Let's imagine Mei is coming back to Yuzu, I don't think she will be thrilled AT ALL that Yuzu say all of those things.
The fact that everyone is supportive is great but I really don't like how it happened. This is either poorly written or it will backfire at Yuzu (and even though Mei had been hard on her, she would deserve it this time).
Agree with this.
We don't actually know what Yuzu said, though. She could easily have admitted her feelings and attraction to Mei without stating that Mei likes her back. I doubt it, but it's possible. Of course, there is the fact also that she's a kid and doesn't know a damn thing about gay culture, so it's likely she doesn't even know that she "came out", or that outing Mei is bad. But Mei isn't any less selfish. She made all of these decisions without even talking to Yuzu about them, and left her feeling desperate, broken, lonely, and helpless as a result.
But you expect that when kids are stepping into their first romance. They're young and stupid. They aren't supposed to be role models.
Sounds like a toxic relationship. :(
Anyway, I love Citrus, I still do, even though it left me frustrated at times. I've watched the anime before reading the manga. I just wish that Mei would be the one who takes the initiative to go after Yuzu this time, instead of Yuzu always going after her.
I just wonder, with so many of you here not being satisfied with the storyline now, is there anyway that we can reach out to Saburouta and tell her our opinions? Like via Twitter or something? If this is a TV show, she would get burnt on Twitter! LOL.
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I love Citrus but I do wish the author will make more chapters more that can make our hearts beat just like one of the first chapters before
With how Shou and Ume was portrayed in Citrus, did anyone really expected them to disown Yuzu after coming out to them?
Anyway, I don't know how to interpret Harumin's expression when Yuzu told her that she loves Mei as a lover. She somewhat looked disappointed for a second then she instantly changed to her usual self. I know I'm overthinking things but I hope it's a hint that Harumin isn't straight at all. Saburo Uta should really create a spin-off with Harumin as the lead.
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Yeah I totally agree with you that what you describe is the likely scenario, as Matsuri has been like a Seer or Oracle from day 1 lol
It would only be what I said if there was a final plot twist in the series. Also because in chapter 37, Harumin tells Matsuri the following: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch37#6. I think someone on Reddit mentioned in the raw she says something like "you are not always right".
That's such a minor scene, I don't believe it implies anything about Matsuri's perceptiveness. Also, if we are to assume that Matsuri has feelings for Harumin (and as a Harumi x Matsuri shipper, I sure hope so), she most likely has observed Harumin's behavior the most out of anybody and knows her best out of the rest of the cast members. I'm definitely willing to bet that she knew what the talk between Yuzu and Harumin was about in the latest chapter.
Also, here's what I would've translated the last two panels of page 5, and the first two of page 6 to (not much different than what's been released though, lol):
Matsuri: Personally, I thought he genuinely wanted to get along with me...
Matsuri: So, you know...Harumi: Well... Everybody's different, and they all have their own ways of thinking.
Harumi: Besides, that's just your opinion, isn't it?She doesn't say anything like "you are not always right."
Sighs. Well I don't know what to say, both my ships sunk in the same chapter damn it LOL HaruYuzu and HaruMatsu never gonna be a reality at this rate (if Harumin doesn't like Matsuri already, there is no way she will develop feelings for her by the end of the story in any satisfactory way). Guess I am here now only to see Mei get bitchslapped hard by Matsuri then, because she has turned into such a boring emo character that I also want revenge. I mean at least this one thing Saburouta has to give us.
Like, am I the only one who literally could not give a sh*t if Mei and Yuzu end up together? I don't know why, in the beginning of the story I really cared but after Mei's letter it was like a cold shower I never recovered from.
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