Just to clarify, although the chapter strongly implies that Mei has, or will have, an arranged fiancé, nobody has explicitly said so yet, correct? Himeko's lack of response on page 7, the subtext of the cafe owner's phone call, and Mei's reticence at the end all seem to point in that direction, but at the moment there's no actual evidence that "Mei's fiancé" is anything but an assumption by Shiraho and Matsuri.

Of course, when you think about it, just because Professor Slimeball McRapey was sent on his way doesn't mean that Mei's side of the family hasn't continued to expect her to eventually marry some more suitable prospect.

And they're unlikely to look favorably on "going off to be a lesbian with my stepsister" as an alternate life plan, either. (Although it works for me.)

If you don't like it don't read it, go and read some weekly Korean manhwa shit and tell me about that art.. saburouta s art is one of the best out there whether you like it or not and before you judge the half done pages try and understand why this happened. Maybe she was sick,busy, maybe she was forced to deliver before finishing it.

If you lack the reading comprehension skills to coherently follow my full post, then don't attempt answering to it and consequently risking yourself looking like a fucking idiot, which hey, you just did!

Who the fuck even brought up Korean shit? What the hell even suggested to you I was into manhwa to begin with, where did that come from, the depths of your ass? That being said, I actually do dislike manwha, or at least, as far as I've been with it, I find it painfully underwhelming, just like your post in its entirety. "One of the best" ahaAHAHAHAAHA AHA Oh you were serious.

To everyone else, I guess it's what I said then, it's mostly about the character design.

chill mate

to be fair he was a bit hostile, but that was a bit over reacting.

I'm on the camp of thinking the arts good. I don't generally spend enough time on a page to critique art in a manga. Like a guy already said, as long as it doesn't interfere with the reading it's good enough. I really like clean lines and smart use of toners. the inking is well done in my opinion considering that i like sharper lines as well.

Even then, demeaning the guy for him to consider this art to be one of the best is uncalled for. It's by far the most subjective comment they made. For one there's no such thing as "one of the best", people can only mean "one of the best i've seen", how are you to even comment on that not to mention art itself is entirely subjective opinion. Who are you to tell someone that what they perceive as good isn't? People can find accidental paint splatters amazing.

All'n'all that was unwarranted, and this blurb was excessie

So basically, Ume and Sho got married in order to help support their daughters? That...explains a lot about their general relationship, actually. It explains why Yuzu's mom is so chill with being the wife of someone who's never around and why Mei's dad is still traveling around, despite being a married man again. It also explains the very sudden marriage.

If the plot would allow it, I'd actually like to see more on that developed. It seems like a pretty interesting arrangement.

If you don't like it don't read it, go and read some weekly Korean manhwa shit and tell me about that art.. saburouta s art is one of the best out there whether you like it or not and before you judge the half done pages try and understand why this happened. Maybe she was sick,busy, maybe she was forced to deliver before finishing it.

If you lack the reading comprehension skills to coherently follow my full post, then don't attempt answering to it and consequently risking yourself looking like a fucking idiot, which hey, you just did!

Who the fuck even brought up Korean shit? What the hell even suggested to you I was into manhwa to begin with, where did that come from, the depths of your ass? That being said, I actually do dislike manwha, or at least, as far as I've been with it, I find it painfully underwhelming, just like your post in its entirety. "One of the best" ahaAHAHAHAAHA AHA Oh you were serious.

To everyone else, I guess it's what I said then, it's mostly about the character design.

chill mate

to be fair he was a bit hostile, but that was a bit over reacting.

I'm on the camp of thinking the arts good. I don't generally spend enough time on a page to critique art in a manga. Like a guy already said, as long as it doesn't interfere with the reading it's good enough. I really like clean lines and smart use of toners. the inking is well done in my opinion considering that i like sharper lines as well.

Even then, demeaning the guy for him to consider this art to be one of the best is uncalled for. It's by far the most subjective comment they made. For one there's no such thing as "one of the best", people can only mean "one of the best i've seen", how are you to even comment on that not to mention art itself is entirely subjective opinion. Who are you to tell someone that what they perceive as good isn't? People can find accidental paint splatters amazing.

All'n'all that was unwarranted, and this blurb was excessie.

He just tries to be edgy and shit all over something a lot of people like. I don't like many things either but I don't go on forums to bad mouth them cause I respect the fact that people like it.

Even then, demeaning the guy for him to consider this art to be one of the best is uncalled for. It's by far the most subjective comment they made. For one there's no such thing as "one of the best", people can only mean "one of the best i've seen", how are you to even comment on that not to mention art itself is entirely subjective opinion. Who are you to tell someone that what they perceive as good isn't? People can find accidental paint splatters amazing.

All'n'all that was unwarranted, and this blurb was excessie

Had he opened up his excuse of a response with anything but loose comparisons and less of a butthurt toned offended victimized tantrum, when I clearly stated I wasn't preventing anyone from liking anything but was instead rather curious on the opposite take of my personal opinion/taste, maybe my hostility wouldn't have been called for.

And really, after that explosion of verbal diharrea from them, did you really expect me to take that subjective yet-not-put-very-subjectively statement seriously? I thought it was hilarious, so I made sure to include my giggles on it. I never claimed people can't like things, even if in my book they're bad. Quality discourse and reading comprehension were never the spotlight in Citrus discussions, I guess.

Even then, demeaning the guy for him to consider this art to be one of the best is uncalled for. It's by far the most subjective comment they made. For one there's no such thing as "one of the best", people can only mean "one of the best i've seen", how are you to even comment on that not to mention art itself is entirely subjective opinion. Who are you to tell someone that what they perceive as good isn't? People can find accidental paint splatters amazing.

All'n'all that was unwarranted, and this blurb was excessie

Had he opened up his excuse of a response with anything but loose comparisons and less of a butthurt toned offended victimized tantrum, when I clearly stated I wasn't preventing anyone from liking anything but was instead rather curious on the opposite take of my personal opinion/taste, maybe my hostility wouldn't have been called for.

And really, after that explosion of verbal diharrea from them, did you really expect me to take that subjective yet-not-put-very-subjectively statement seriously? I thought it was hilarious, so I made sure to include my giggles on it. I never claimed people can't like things, even if in my book they're bad. Quality discourse and reading comprehension were never the spotlight in Citrus discussions, I guess.

They wrote one or two passive aggressive lines at best
Your condescending hostility however, was overblown and pointlessly aggro, it was far from justified

But Citrus's drama is pretty much similar to Korean manwhas' drama.

They were most probably talking about the art, not the quality of the drama.

Who the fuck even brought up Korean shit?

They brought it up to, I think, compare Citrus' art to something less polished in their eyes. Also, to be fair, the tone of your original post is already antagonistic and you're basically shitting on the manga while saying "meh, I'll give you that one good point". And when somebody call you out on your attitude for mocking a fan reaction, you also turn yourself into a victim "but they're just butthurt fans, it's not my fault. I even said they're free to like their shitty crap manga" - I'm exaggerating on purpose there.

Don't play dumb, you're shitting on something people like, hiding it behind legitimate critics, of course there's going to be offense taken. And then you end up on yet another provocation, but I guess it's just for shit and giggles.

Otherwise, when somebody calls something good, that means they like it, nothing to do with objectivity. Unless you're talking about something being technically good, for which you can point out errors in proportions and stuffs, which aren't standing out in my eyes. So yeah, like probably the majority of people who love Citrus, I like the characters designs the most and the way the emotions are portrayed are good : they're compelling and help me feel the emotions and the distress the characters are experiencing in the story. The art allows me to experience the story to its fullest, which is good since it is its purpose. And yes, there are more beautiful art out there, mostly outside of yuri where the drawings are mainly utilitarian, except the bodies and the faces, i.e. the characters.

Of course, like most of the works out there, there's going to be errors, the author is only human; but since they don't stand out for me, as I said, it's enough so that I consider Citrus' art good overall. On the specific case of the sketchy art, I'll just quote the best janitor ever "Schedule conflict"; Saburouta had a volume to finish and an anime to work on.

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Everyone's hopped up mad about the new fiance development, but honestly it seems (1) pretty realistic and (2) not really a retread of old material, given that the old fiance was way back at the start when they just met. Not only are they different people now, but their relationship is definitely in a very different place which offers new ground to cover. Making no assumptions first since we haven't actually confirmed his existence, but if there is a fiance I'm fairly confident saburouta won't play out the exact same story beats twice so im looking forward to seeing how the arguably more mature and understanding yuzu/The braver mei handle this one. I can see why people might be irritated since it, on the surface, it does look like "just" a plot retread.

Low-key best part of the episode was Matsuro being so upset tho. She's usually screws around so much it's nice to see she was genuinely invested in seeing yuzumei be happy together.

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Oh my god tiny Yuzu is so cute

I "Citrus sucks" is the current fashion, but for crying out loud this is getting out of hand again. I'm seeing way too much pointless nastiness and I'd really like not to have to step in. So if people could show at least the tiniest bit of self-control I'd be ever so grateful.

As to the art, even the top yuri artists fuck up. Mira is terrible at proportions sometimes. Morinaga Milk sometimes turns her characters into cyclops when in profile. Morishima Akiko's characters have rubber arms at times. There's a whole chapter of Kurogane Ken's Hoshikawa Ginza District 4 that's got no inks or tones. Takemiya Jin is perfect and has no flaws, shut up

Artists have their weaknesses, off days, and times when they have scheduling conflicts and can't polish everything the way they should. It's nothing unexpected, even from the top of the field, except Takemiya Jin, didn't I tell you to shut up

Absolutely. And concerning Saburouta, let's remind us that she had the volume extra (10 pages to draw), all the bonus content (color cards ...) exclusive to some shops (ComicZin, Gamers...), the extra leaflet offered with Toranoana (another 4 pages to do) and last, but not least, all the corrections she had to do for the volume 8. All the chapter 29 (adding layers of shades on the hair and the background for more than 30 pages) and many corrections in the other three chapters.

So yeah, it was almost expected she would not polish a chapter that usually she doesn't publish when a volume is released.

Volume 7 was delayed for one month probably because of scheduling problems. She could not delay this time because a sign event meeting with the fans was scheduled the 21th of october.

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It's pretty sure YH released the unfinished chapter despite SU not wanting that. It's pretty unprofessional to release an unfinished chapter, it would have been better not to release a chapter this month. I think this incident and that shit quality in NTR's anime show YH doesn't really give a fuck about its titles. Then again, not surprising, best yuri series aren't even published there

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Takemiya Jin is perfect and has no flaws, shut up.

Sorry to have to disobey--I adore Takemiya Jin, but the one problem I have in reading her is that sometimes there's not a lot of variance in the visual design of the characters, so I get confused about who is who more easily than usual (especially when I'm following a story/arc that's been spread over several different collections). That makes it harder for me to read a bunch of her work in a row, which I regret, because I adore Takemiya Jin.

of course mei had fiance in her sleeves, of course. I should have known.. how could I miss this fact, its like in front of my face all the time ??

matsuri!, this is ur chance! I really want the old matsuri back now

Takemiya Jin is perfect and has no flaws, shut up.

Sorry to have to disobey--I adore Takemiya Jin, but the one problem I have in reading her is that sometimes there's not a lot of variance in the visual design of the characters, so I get confused about who is who more easily than usual (especially when I'm following a story/arc that's been spread over several different collections). That makes it harder for me to read a bunch of her work in a row, which I regret, because I adore Takemiya Jin.

There's always gotta be one. Heretic!

The parents' relationship did seem super weird and i'm glad their agreement was covered in the extra.

Wait so, the "parents" don't actually even love each other? Their whole "become a family" thing came out of circumstance and it was just the mother's desire to take care of Mei.
In a way that's sweet, but I'm irritated that for some reason it's okay for the dad to be away because he's finding himself or whatever.

Wait so, the "parents" don't actually even love each other? Their whole "become a family" thing came out of circumstance and it was just the mother's desire to take care of Mei.
In a way that's sweet, but I'm irritated that for some reason it's okay for the dad to be away because he's finding himself or whatever.

He's a lousy excuse of a human being. Reminds me of Satoshi/Ash Ketchum's dad.

Wait so, the "parents" don't actually even love each other? Their whole "become a family" thing came out of circumstance and it was just the mother's desire to take care of Mei.
In a way that's sweet, but I'm irritated that for some reason it's okay for the dad to be away because he's finding himself or whatever.

I don't know, Ume seemed pretty much fond of Shou during their one interaction or when she talked about him. Perhaps she was just putting a front to reassure her daughter, but I think there are genuine sentiment there, hence why I'd be interesting by more extras or chapters covering their story.

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wait, so Mei have another fiance? or only one? I thought the teacher from chapter 1 was her fiance and it's already over? did i got it all wrong?

wait, so Mei have another fiance? or only one? I thought the teacher from chapter 1 was her fiance and it's already over? did i got it all wrong?

We don't know, that's how bad this twist has been written.

WHAT THE WHHHAAAATTT???!?!? Wow thought it's clear now but a fiance suddenly appears without WARNING!!! WHO DID ARRANGE IT AGAIN??!? O_O HaruminxMatsuri moments need to be leveled UP too... >~<

WHO DID ARRANGE IT AGAIN??!? O_O

If it is indeed happening, I'd say her grandpa or Mei herself.

Edit : That makes me think about people complaining that grandpa said Mei should follow her own way. I think he was definitely talking about her career choice, not her love life. I've read several versions (French, fan and official English), and I don't think the fact that Yuzu was dishevelled on Mei's bed was ever (fully) addressed.

I have the feeling that Mei talked about what Yuzu did out of sisterly love (save her from a bad marriage, trying to free her from her family's shackles), but the fact that Mei was sexually aggressing Yuu - or the other way around for grandpa - was probably swept under the rug... That would explain why he would still insist on her granddaughter getting a fiancé.

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I would say that Mei is aware that she's supposed to have a suitor like Himeko and Shiraho. But she doesn't know she has a fiance yet. The call the manager received implies that her grandfather or the real head of the Aihara family made a move. He could be the candidate and finally accepts.
Mei's distraught comes from Himeko's situation. It reminded her that she lied to Yuzu on her future. But i really don't see where people assume she knows she has an actual fiance. It is more the prospect of it. Because she knows her grandfather would not wait. She will probably spill the beans in next chapter. If she's already engaged, that would be a disgrace for her character. That's why i think she's more nervous because she didn't explain to Yuzu all the consequences of her decision to rule the school.

Himeko explains that very well. All rich girls who attend the Academy are supposed to have arranged mariages, that's the tradition as she said. Mei is fated to follow it if she wants to be the next headmistress of the school where the most powerful and prestigious families put their daughters.

My theory here that could bomb in next chapter is that Mei probably postponed meetings with different candidates until this chapter where, apparently, someone has been selected (the manager) and accepted. She trapped herself by sparing Yuzu and at the same time her grandfather (and those who decide in her family since her father lost this privilege). She was weak, not malicious or malignant.

Edit : @Klice : i read your edit. Some anon on /u translated the sentence that the Grandfather told. The official translation tells that she can do what she wants to do (implying forever).

Here what the anon told : "In Japanese it's clear the grandfather was not talking about forever, just for a while (しばらくの間)" So the "for a while" ended with the prospect of Mei having 17. I may add that the Aihara family, as the grandfather sees it, is very old-fashioned in a very traditional background in Japan. Having the future head of a school, where girls from the most prestigious families go, being lesbian and dating her stepsister cannot be accepted. So Mei will have to make a choice. Until now, she tried to have a foot in both camps. Once again, not out of malice.

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