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Ioruu%20dr
joined Jul 13, 2014

W.T.F.
Seriously, Shou!?
Now it's incredible in a whole lot different kind of way

Upside-down-legomd
joined Jun 13, 2015

END?!? NO WAI

joined Sep 19, 2015

At this point, I'm just thankful it's over. It's like a huge burden off my shoulders.

Granted, now it's been replaced with the burden of waiting for epilogue chapters, but at least I can pretend that possibility doesn't exist for long periods of time.

What a life we live, huh.

Nezchan Moderator
Meiling%20bun%20150px
joined Jun 28, 2012

Nya-chan

We can also guess that BGS wasn't the right magazine for a yuri story and Shou had his hands tied and could not go the yuri route. It's a seinen magazine and maybe his editor refrained him from going gay romance.

I was thinking this myself, how much of the hand of the editor are we seeing in all this? It's unlikely Shou was just given a few pages per issue and told "go do whatever", so maybe some of the tone of the series was mandated.

k0f11

Well, I think it reflects reality just fine. Really, how many times do we get a happy ending in real life? Plus.. this "rushed goodbyes" happen a lot on a daily basis, life IS that fast, even more so when you have to work and do adult stuff like Ran and Keiko.

While I agree that the ending is suitable to a degree, I think it's a bit disingenuous to invoke real life when that's clearly not what the rest of the series was about. A great deal of the rest of it, how they reunited during a chaotic event just when Keiko needed a roommate, her ex just happening to frequent the one out of thousands of bars that Ran worked in, and so forth,

It still remains that while the ambiguity of their relationship not getting resolved is suitable and I'm fine with that, there is too much unsatisfying about the ending to consider it actually good.

Soo%20nice
joined May 10, 2013

Japanese people liked the end?

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Snowflakes%20icon
joined Jun 22, 2014

end? wtf, it can't end. I didn't allow this. WTF?

Yurikosmaller2
joined May 28, 2011

I feel he was trolling us all along.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

If we speak of realism, he could have ended the series with Kyouko being killed by a car when crossing the street. Realistic? Of course.

Truck-kun to the rescue.

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joined Aug 2, 2015

Called it

blatant_harvester
Snpl
joined Feb 16, 2013

Look at the bright side: this isn't Philosophia.

Copy90_90_zpscf246422
joined Sep 18, 2014

Look at the bright side: this isn't Philosophia.

Or Happy End. And at least it's finished unlike Flower Flower and Prism.

Together_forever
joined Jul 6, 2013

Look at the bright side: this isn't Philosophia.

Or Happy End. And at least it's finished unlike Flower Flower and Prism.

Except at least Prism ended on a good note. This didn't.

joined Oct 12, 2013

Flower Flower

;_;

AquarianDemocrat
Retry
joined Jan 23, 2012

Btw, I didn't read this I just wanted to drop in and remind people of something. Higashiyama Shou is not a yuri mangaka. 90% of what he writes is het lolicon hentai. Prism is not representative of what he normally does. I don't know if you can expect more yuri from him in the future, but, in any case, its not good to assume that whatever he writes is going to be yuri or even yuri-ish... because its usually not going to be. Cheers.

20220118_232511_50
joined Jun 3, 2015

I'm okay with this ending, it feels like Shou brought it as close to the yuri side of it as he could and left it there.

In a standard issue romance novel this is the part where Keiko goes offscreen for some reflection only to return after a timeskip to sweep Ran off her feet. She's even going back home to deal with that situation, it's just offscreen character progression all day every day. So, assuming whatever contract they were under with the magazine didn't let them go full yuri with it(it's still mostly a stretch/gag manga after all), it's a great setup for either a proper continuation or a a nice doujin to finish it all up.

That said if it is a time skip thing I hope it's a long one where we come back to a wife n wife type situation, the offscreen reflection thing is so overused I don't want one here. Skipping ahead further and tell the story through flashbacks just like it was done here would be nice.

Also, since I never got to say this earlier on in the thread: Ran was basically gay for Keiko from day one, trying to compete with Keiko's boyfriend is what got her into health/medicine, and trying to beat your love interests partner to win their affections by being better is crush 101.

Afueee
joined Apr 5, 2013

Btw, I didn't read this I just wanted to drop in and remind people of something. Higashiyama Shou is not a yuri mangaka. 90% of what he writes is het lolicon hentai. Prism is not representative of what he normally does. I don't know if you can expect more yuri from him in the future, but, in any case, its not good to assume that whatever he writes is going to be yuri or even yuri-ish... because its usually not going to be. Cheers.

Well, you said that because you didn't read it.

Being from the author of Prism and with the HUGE amount of subtext and shiptease, and the HUGE hints that Ran is gay the natural thing is having hopes for a yuri end.

Honmei Choco, for God's sake! Honmei Choco!!!

Dammit Shou!!! Dammit Keiko!!! Dammit the publisher!!!
If for a miracle someday I meet with Shou in person, I will greet he with a kick in the nuts.

joined Oct 12, 2013

Dammit Shou!!! Dammit Keiko!!! Dammit the publisher!!!

'Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.'

Untitled
joined Oct 4, 2014

THAT'S IT???
THAT'S IT???
SLAM FIST ON THE TABLE
REALLY?????

Nezchan Moderator
Meiling%20bun%20150px
joined Jun 28, 2012

Dammit Shou!!! Dammit Keiko!!! Dammit the publisher!!!

'Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.'

As I recall, five or more exclamation points together is a sign of madness.

Afueee
joined Apr 5, 2013

Dammit Shou!!! Dammit Keiko!!! Dammit the publisher!!!

'Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.'

In more ways than one!!!!!

SHOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!! (Please, hear it in your head using William Shatner's voice.)

PS: And of course, I use underpants in my head, if anyone was wondering. Like any civilizated person does.

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Utena-240x146
joined Sep 13, 2015

im just going to say this, WHO HUGGS THERE FRIEND NAKED. If Shou wanted to portray a platonic relationship he didn't need to add these types of details to his manga. If he left those subtle touches out, I wouldn't care as much if there relationship was just friendship. I understand people have different relationships. But, from my own experience with my friends, I don't play footsies with them underneath a table when having dinner. I also, don't play house with them or HUG THEM NAKED IN THE SHOWER. When it comes to friendship there are certain boundaries you don't cross. That's why its a friendship. The undertones are way too much for it just to be a friendship.

My poor heart is disappointed that it didn't turn full yuri but we were never promised that I guess. Im just gutted this could have been a really good yuri manga instead its just an okay adult life/ stretching manga thing.

joined Oct 12, 2013

im just going to say this, WHO HUGGS THERE FRIEND NAKED. If Shou wanted to portray a platonic relationship he didn't need to add these types of details to his manga. If he left those subtle touches out, I wouldn't care as much if there relationship was just friendship. I understand people have different relationships. But, from my own experience with my friends, I don't play footsies with them underneath a table when having dinner. I also, don't play house with them or HUG THEM NAKED IN THE SHOWER. When it comes to friendship there are certain boundaries you don't cross. That's why its a friendship. The undertones are way too much for it just to be a friendship.

My poor heart is disappointed that it didn't turn full yuri but we were never promised that I guess. Im just gutted this could have been a really good yuri manga instead its just an okay adult life/ stretching manga thing.

Shou a shit.

Femshep%20x%20liara%20avatar
joined Dec 8, 2013

Nya-chan

how they reunited during a chaotic event just when Keiko needed a roommate,

AH! You know, I totally forgot they reunited to become roommates at the beginning... perhaps Shou is gonna continue that theme with volume 4/the sequel? They reunite again after 2-3 years (so lonely ;-;) and become even closer, perhaps with a yuri end!!

My flame burns bright for their future. (oh god i actually said that)

joined Mar 25, 2013

This was volume 4. Or did you mean the volume 4 extra?

Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

FUCK YOU SHOU YURI IS DEAD AND ITS YOUR FAULT

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