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joined Jan 2, 2022

Chapters like this is really confusing because it goes against the original plot of the story. Authors seem to always struggle with stories where video game characters become sentient. Why is Olivia given such a deep emotional background here when she is a video game character? Did her creator right this backstory? Do the players seem this in game? If not it doesn't make much sense.

I wish there was a manga where a video game character comes to life or a person goes into a video game that actually deals with the real implications of what that would mean. Like the MC trying to teach a character something beyond what their programming allows. Or the video game character having an existential crisis with coming to terms that their whole life is just a bunch of codes created by someone else. That would be far more interesting and more believable imo.

For example imagine if Machino's harem had to question if they like her or if they're programmed to like her, since they are just characters in a game. That their relationship with her isn't special and whoever plays the game would have the same relationship with them.

I would understand this if Machino was in the game proper, but the opening chapter has the characters literally jumping out of the game. If anything were to suggest that these characters are not bound by their game, it would be that.

Also, it's kind of a spoiler, but Not Your Typical Reincarnation Story has what you're looking for, but it's a novel, not a video game, and it's het.

Chocolate Cake
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joined Jul 1, 2025

Yeah, it still feels like it's more Sofia vs Olivia than a harem (and unfortunately, I know very much for whom I am rooting). Maybe the two remaining servants will turn things around but that's to be seen...
And honestly, the story already handwaved the whole matter of how constricted they must be as fictional characters so if they don't elaborate on that again, it's whatever really. The whole "instantly beloved by all" thing is fishier but I can't say I haven't seen it in real life on a smaller scale. Perhaps not everyone is completely on board with it even but doesn't want to speak up and thus, it looks like the unanimous consent to Olivia. Although I have to say I like the unhinged theory more.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Chapters like this is really confusing because it goes against the original plot of the story. Authors seem to always struggle with stories where video game characters become sentient. Why is Olivia given such a deep emotional background here when she is a video game character? Did her creator right this backstory? Do the players seem this in game? If not it doesn't make much sense.

I wish there was a manga where a video game character comes to life or a person goes into a video game that actually deals with the real implications of what that would mean. Like the MC trying to teach a character something beyond what their programming allows. Or the video game character having an existential crisis with coming to terms that their whole life is just a bunch of codes created by someone else. That would be far more interesting and more believable imo.

For example imagine if Machino's harem had to question if they like her or if they're programmed to like her, since they are just characters in a game. That their relationship with her isn't special and whoever plays the game would have the same relationship with them.

That's an interesting idea for a story, though I personally prefer this type that treats characters in fictional worlds like they're actually people beyond the curtain of the game. It's more fantastical sure but I'm also not looking for realism with a story like this, and I think the idea of having characters in games and other media having their own existence and lives beyond what we see is popular for good reason in my opinion. As it allows for more imaginative freedom when thinking about the world and the characters.

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joined Mar 13, 2020

unhinged theory incoming

it's weird that the nobles instantly accepted and praised sophia as the rightful heir to the kingdom without a fight - that she's so universally, almost unnaturally beloved by the people. So i started thinking:

Sophia is actually going to be the main antagonist that used some kind of "charm magic" to manipulate the entire kingdom to be under her thumb. She was said to have brought peace to the kingdom through the "persuasive power of her kindness" which could sound a little ominous if you look at it a certain way. Remember that Sophia was also adopted, not born, into the royal family as well.

Maybe Olivia is the only one who passively resisted it because of her own unnatural magical aptitude. It would also explain Sophia's somewhat unnatural degree of kindness towards Olivia if there's an ulterior motive behind it - Olivia outright spurns and scorns Sophia, who seems unbothered and continues to try to persuade her into friendship. Sophia could just be a saint... or maybe she's trying to win over the person she can't magically charm onto her side.

she also could be seen as the one who caused the isekai thing too back in chapter 1 - the dialogue box specifically asked "Sophia wants to meet with you. Will you go?" which could be interpreted such that Sophia is the one who instigated the entire incident.


also, in a meta sense, it's kind of odd to me that the author seems to be building up Olivia as the main heroine of the story and not Sophia. We're learning so much about Olivia's inner struggles, her history, etc... and yet almost nothing about Sophia beyond the surface level qualities that pretty much were shown since the first chapter, despite the first volume focusing solely on Sophia. The above would also explain why the story is going in that direction.

On one hand: Ok, not a never-heard-of trope but it would make the story more interesting
On another hand: Noooo, don't do this to my good ol' sol harem

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joined Mar 27, 2018

It can still be a SoL harem. Sophia ostensibly saved the kingdom so she isn't necessarily evil or anything... however she may have done it. The fundamental element of her personality in this scenario is her need for control.

As for the direction of the story, it could just be written that Sophia starts acting a possessive and obsessive over Machino once Machino gets closer and closer with Olivia. She's already my favorite but that would make her even more peak.

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joined Aug 11, 2022

Hmm....Yeah I can see why Olivia might be a bit butt-hurt about Sophia...especially since Sophia is adopted and has no magic but Sophia (Max charisma stat, luck stat and + Cuteness stat= best mood makers and stats IRL). It sad but social interaction and having a charming smile does makes people more polite, feel good toward those people with happy kind smiles...or at least towards people who can at least fake it XD

Standard nobility feeling of responsibility (Feeling lots of pressure, guilt and duty), our Lady Knight heroine seems like a decent person and friend to Olivia, though unable to get through to her, fed up at the end...but that fking pay cut...Ouch...pay-cut is still going even now!? I thought it would just be a few months to a couple years, that hurts me mentally lol.

EDIT: actually, Sofia had no language problems when she first came to Earth, so scratch that? I guess it's one of those things we're not meant to think too deeply about. I was thinking Olivia had to do accelerated language learning aided by magic or something...

Technically they can easily 'speak' the same language...Reading and writing the same language on the other hand...check ch.2 to 4, princess had trouble reading the cook book and did the cooking by looking at the pictures plus writing notes in her own language which MC cannot read. Olivia on the other hand...She has a job, use a PC and can easily read Japanese stuff lol.

Shrug Meh, not a big deal and likely something we should not think too deeply about.

also, in a meta sense, it's kind of odd to me that the author seems to be building up Olivia as the main heroine of the story and not Sophia. We're learning so much about Olivia's inner struggles, her history, etc... and yet almost nothing about Sophia beyond the surface level qualities that pretty much were shown since the first chapter, despite the first volume focusing solely on Sophia. The above would also explain why the story is going in that direction.

Huh I just assumed Olivia was getting more focus due to Cat-Sensei appearing and stealing the spotlight, Princess got 5 chapters to herself with the MC while our tsundere-chan got her time with MC cut a bit short and lessen due to Cat-Sensei appearing
...interesting 'theory' though, perhaps Sophia might actually have some kind unique charm magic that she is not aware about...or perhaps she is actually aware about it (Secretly hiding an second real calculating personality)...
Does whole big reveal....
-Whole 10-20 chapters passed and it is revealed about Sophia's 'true nature'-
-Sophia has the rest of MC's heroines/harem tired up to a rocket while she faces down the MC-
Sophia: So my beloved Machino...would you still love me if you knew I knowingly manipulate everyone excluding Olivia and you into loving me using min-
MC: Absolutely!!!
Sophia: e-...Sometimes I can't believe I fall in love with such a moron -blush-...I don't know whether to strangle you as a punishment or hug you...probably both. You better have prepare a good speech about why I shouldn't send the rest of my rivals into space to keep you all for myself as my cute little pet...
MC panicking and getting to roll a crit 20 triple on her speech while getting all the right dialog options:

Chapters like this is really confusing because it goes against the original plot of the story. Authors seem to always struggle with stories where video game characters become sentient. Why is Olivia given such a deep emotional background here when she is a video game character? Did her creator right this backstory? Do the players seem this in game? If not it doesn't make much sense.

I wish there was a manga where a video game character comes to life or a person goes into a video game that actually deals with the real implications of what that would mean. Like the MC trying to teach a character something beyond what their programming allows. Or the video game character having an existential crisis with coming to terms that their whole life is just a bunch of codes created by someone else. That would be far more interesting and more believable imo.

Shrugs Eh...beats me, though why do you assume video game character aren't allowed deep backstories though? Though...This is assuming they are just one and zeros 01010101010, made up of data instead of just alternative reality people...though then that gets into the fking headache of how the MC was able to interact with them and basically spend almost a year worth of memories with them (Wishing star...Random act of random God) XD

...Then you also have to factor in that the author likely has a schedule to keep pumping out chapters, probably not newbie author but likely is not some pro author can accurately create amazing detail artwork + Backstories just from a few limited pages. Eh, I seen better authors but I seen worse authors. From your comment you seem to think the author could have wrote this chapter better or something, Shrug, probably could have but eh, no one is perfect I guess?

I mean MC max out all 5 heroines in 3 days but normally would take about at least 1 week (pulling all nighters 3 days), so this could mean MC would be spending about estimated at least (5 to 10) hours each days (5 hour free time and 2-4 hours taken from her sleep).

Her friend was surprised by MC maxing out all heroines affection so this is assuming you can't beat the game just by spending -2 to 4- hours per day casually. So this is assuming at least 5 to 10 hours per day, 15 min to max 30+ hours of total play time if you factor in attending school, time for eating, bathroom and homework. So estimated about perhaps estimated half that is reading the interaction with each heroines while the other half of the time might + possible admiring the game artwork, GC image collection and possible mini games during the game story.

For example a normal novel has a word count about 40,000 to 70,000 words (This can range from 1 hour to 3 hours depending on if your a slow reader or faster reader.) So even assuming MC took a whole 2 hours of reading interaction with each heroine [The rest mini-games, other npc character and lore building aspect of the game] then I think you can get a somewhat decent flesh out character personality.

Though all these meaningless stupid random calculation I did is just based on just assuming MC played at least a total of 15-30+ hours total in those 3 days (enough text to include character personality and interactions if you exclude text not including any of the heroines like basic lore backstory, mini-games and random npcs.)...Not like we have access to the game sadly lol...XD

Also Actually there are dozens of manga that does the whole video game or novel character come to real life scenario...IT crazy how many books, novel,videos games are there out in the world....sadly though if your looking for yuri in them though...you might be counting less than 3-4, perhaps 1-2 at most if your lucky, perhaps we might get lucky and someone will make more yuri types involving those scenarios 20-30 in the future...Example of them: Re-Creators (Yeah...you did not want to get into a brain battle with your own creation...your creation is way smarter than you and you will end up died...Like if that crazy psychopath Light from death note had a chess battle or death battle involving using their brains...his author would be dead.) The Flash (in certain storylines): The DC Multiverse, some comics flash travel to IRL and has to grapple with this concept. Overlord also counts 'technically' too...MC finding it interesting how his NPC friends are developing and choosing stuff on their own, (NPC remember all the previous player interactions before the isekai.)

There is also a villainess manga where the little sister of the so-called Villainess finds about how their story and life is kind of made like a otome-game and she is basically like FK U to all the developers when she finds out trying to rush the game before the release (Release involved her older sister [Villainess dying in every route]) and trying to find a way to save her older sister. The head lead developer being annoyed by the writer of the game making long complex backstory for villainess and involving little sister character too, MC basically has REZero ability with some game point aspect

plus probably at least a few more stories where video game character come to IRL....then start to freak out and react either negative or come to accept it somehow by keeping their morality.

Though your suggestion about MC (Machino)'s harem finding out about the game world aspect was something 'probably' others and I talked about in few of my posts and was afraid about happening (potential drama)...it would still be funny, amusing and interesting sight to see such a scenario happen....Though The Sophia/princess would just shrug and be fine with it lol.

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joined Feb 5, 2020

ow oww ow ow ow.. i don’t need Olivia to be endgame, I just want her to be happy.

Gt00pn-odpc
joined Sep 30, 2017

Don't remember if I said this before, but Olivia is stealing the show for me.

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joined Apr 30, 2020

Poor Olivia... If only Machino knew early on. Hopefully the Machino rizz will save the day just like before.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Ooof. Olivia is just a lonely gifted kid who fell completely for an utter airhead.

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joined Jun 19, 2013

Technically they can easily 'speak' the same language...Reading and writing the same language on the other hand...check ch.2 to 4, princess had trouble reading the cook book and did the cooking by looking at the pictures plus writing notes in her own language which MC cannot read. Olivia on the other hand...She has a job, use a PC and can easily read Japanese stuff lol.

I'm pretty sure Olivia was the first to arrive by a long shot and is certainly the most motivated to "shine brightly" so Machino could find her. She has a leg up with her studying ability so I imagine her first few days were literally spent in a library learning how to read and how the world works. After all, she magically speaks Japanese so she could start with the hiragana in toddler's books ("いぬ" over dog picture, "inu" is the word for dog, therefore い=i, ぬ=nu) and work up from there, and a library conveniently has computers she could learn to type on (even they're just for finding books).

There is also a villainess manga where the little sister of the so-called Villainess finds about how their story and life is kind of made like a otome-game and she is basically like FK U to all the developers when she finds out trying to rush the game before the release (Release involved her older sister [Villainess dying in every route]) and trying to find a way to save her older sister. The head lead developer being annoyed by the writer of the game making long complex backstory for villainess and involving little sister character too, MC basically has REZero ability with some game point aspect

Do you remember the name of that manga? I'm googling the key words but having trouble finding something with a villainess's little sister saying "screw the programming".

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joined Mar 21, 2025

Reverse isakai is really not something often seen, so I’m definitely reading this one!
And I wonder if it’s still on Yuri Hime? The tag-link that says it belonged to Yuri Hime stopped after 2024.9, so I wonder which issue it’s from…

Loving their adaption to the real world! Although the title really give me a bad feeling about how this will progress…

Good story!

joined Aug 11, 2022

For Olivia her time with the MC was a relationship build almost close to a year and that event scene where they made a promise was a very very important event and time in her life (Gaining a person that cares about her and gaining some strength to try to move past her past child trauma.)

...But for the MC...It Was a Tuesday (Digital fake random cookie for people who got the meme and reference).

Yeah...MC better remember her 'promise(Game event)' and chase after her Ojou-sama tsundere waifu and give her a lot of head-pats, hugs and etc.

It takes a lot of work to mange and make sure everyone is happy if your harem, MC!!! Don't slack off and make sure all your member of your harem are happy and emotionally stable lol XD

...Also wow...MC's game character in the game is bullsh*t OP...if it was MC's real brains and self which is similar to most of the people's brain and bodies in this thread they probably won't be getting A++ grades and making amazing magic invention lol~]

Do you remember the name of that manga? I'm googling the key words but having trouble finding something with a villainess's little sister saying "screw the programming".

My Beloved Sister Was a Villain, so I Defy the Scenario God Has Ordained I think it was called? It's alright, not the best but not the worst.

Miowink
joined Aug 21, 2020

It's peak I'm afraid

I wanna see more, this manga keeps being so much better than I thought it would be with that premise

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