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joined Jun 19, 2013

I look forward to more of our cute modern Japanese engineer who was able to get all of these modern amenities working in the Middle Ages.

I would not have guessed this was yuri if it wasn't for the tag. I didn't see a hint of attraction between the two, even while they were bathing.

this is what I’m afraid, that there is 0 yuri and only slice of life between friends :( really hate the usage of Yuri tags for friendship or subtext

The original gives it the Yuri tag on Comic Walker, so we'll see how it goes.

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joined Jun 19, 2013

I know what dysphoria feels like, and don't assume I don't. My life vastly improved when I addressed my dysphoria, but it didn't mean I disconnected entirely from my AGAB.

Okay, but you are not Hodaka lol. They're looking pretty thoroughly disconnected already.

I still disagree with you, especially because I think whatever's going on with the curse is going to be addressed in some fashion and make Hodaka's choices more complex as to what he wants to be. Also, what you wrote screams "binary trans experience", so if you're not enby yourself I want you to think long and hard why you decided that another person in the trans umbrella had to have a lecture on dysphoria.

My gender is none of your business lmao. I didn't lecture you about anything, I laid out my reasoning for why I read the character the way I do, which required drawing connections between various aspects of dysphoria with the character's emotions.
I don't know what you mean in particular by "binary trans experience" (if such a thing exists outside of your assumptions I've never seen it nor heard anyone personally testify to it, the very existence of trans people is a violation of gender boundaries, that's why the radfems struggled so badly with the concept of trans people), but it's certainly not what I described as my impression of the character, let alone "screamed" it. What kind of 'binary gender' uses they/them pronouns?

This isn't worth the effort. I'm done.

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I know what dysphoria feels like, and don't assume I don't. My life vastly improved when I addressed my dysphoria, but it didn't mean I disconnected entirely from my AGAB.

Okay, but you are not Hodaka lol. They're looking pretty thoroughly disconnected already.

I still disagree with you, especially because I think whatever's going on with the curse is going to be addressed in some fashion and make Hodaka's choices more complex as to what he wants to be. Also, what you wrote screams "binary trans experience", so if you're not enby yourself I want you to think long and hard why you decided that another person in the trans umbrella had to have a lecture on dysphoria.

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There's been multiple recent manga published in mainstream sources like Ayakashi Triangle and Zenbu Kimi no Sei that deliberately subverted their cishet potential to be brazenly queer instead. All the details align with Hodaka being genderqueer, they've even told Chihaya "I get to be a girl and I get to be with you, two birds with one stone!" to reassure her they're fine with the curse. As far as I'm concerned we should already be avoiding he/him pronouns based on the text in front of us without even reading into meta things like the aquarium date, and it would be very foolish to assume "oh he'll just end up a guy in the end".

ps: if you haven't read it, Zenbu Kimi no Sei is complete on Mangadex and is very similar to this except they're BOTH constantly switching and it's more comedic focused. If you like this manga you'll probably like that one :)

I doubt he'll end up as "just a guy" in the end, but I still think it's pre-emptive to avoid using he/him when the text has also made it obvious he's still uncomfortable with being transformed into a woman and that there's more to work on there in how he views it. And I definitely read the reassurance there as him jumping to trying to make her feel better despite how he feels uncomfortable.

Like, even if he ends up being 100% a trans woman, this is still something thrust upon him that he's trying to figure out, and we don't know how the cards will fall, especially because I'm almost certain the source of the curse will be addressed. I feel like he might end up bigender in the end, feeling both equally a man and a woman.

Also, as someone who is a nonbinary butch, I'm kinda annoyed at a common presumption that entering an enby space always means detachment from your AGAB. I still identify as a woman and use she/her even tho I'm absolutely also nb. Hodaka's gender identity being more complex than "just a guy" doesn't mean being a guy won't be an important component of the end result.

Hodaka is completely dissociated from their AGAB though, did you miss the whole "have I ever really liked or enjoyed anything before now" angle? They don't seem to have any ties to it whatsoever except the inertia from being raised that way and the expectation that their girlfriend presumably wants a boyfriend. Currently there's confusion between "is this new ability to enjoy literally anything caused by grenderbending or is it caused by being in love" but it's not exactly normal to not even like food and then suddenly you get a first girlfriend and it tastes good now lol. Dysphoria is one of the few things in life for those who have it that makes every single aspect of life worse, including raw physical sensations. There's others like severe depression but severe depression is not normally cured so quickly, whereas if you genderbend your average egg they'd start feeling like life is wonderful pretty much instantly lol

I know what dysphoria feels like, and don't assume I don't. My life vastly improved when I addressed my dysphoria, but it didn't mean I disconnected entirely from my AGAB.

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joined Jun 19, 2013

There's been multiple recent manga published in mainstream sources like Ayakashi Triangle and Zenbu Kimi no Sei that deliberately subverted their cishet potential to be brazenly queer instead. All the details align with Hodaka being genderqueer, they've even told Chihaya "I get to be a girl and I get to be with you, two birds with one stone!" to reassure her they're fine with the curse. As far as I'm concerned we should already be avoiding he/him pronouns based on the text in front of us without even reading into meta things like the aquarium date, and it would be very foolish to assume "oh he'll just end up a guy in the end".

ps: if you haven't read it, Zenbu Kimi no Sei is complete on Mangadex and is very similar to this except they're BOTH constantly switching and it's more comedic focused. If you like this manga you'll probably like that one :)

I doubt he'll end up as "just a guy" in the end, but I still think it's pre-emptive to avoid using he/him when the text has also made it obvious he's still uncomfortable with being transformed into a woman and that there's more to work on there in how he views it. And I definitely read the reassurance there as him jumping to trying to make her feel better despite how he feels uncomfortable.

Like, even if he ends up being 100% a trans woman, this is still something thrust upon him that he's trying to figure out, and we don't know how the cards will fall, especially because I'm almost certain the source of the curse will be addressed. I feel like he might end up bigender in the end, feeling both equally a man and a woman.

Also, as someone who is a nonbinary butch, I'm kinda annoyed at a common presumption that entering an enby space always means detachment from your AGAB. I still identify as a woman and use she/her even tho I'm absolutely also nb. Hodaka's gender identity being more complex than "just a guy" doesn't mean being a guy won't be an important component of the end result.

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I'm in love with her teacher too.

I would do anything for Maria-sensei.

Or let her do anything to me.

Maria-sensei R-18 doujin when?

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“First time reading hentai buddy?”
Why are you acting smug for being desensitized to porn? Not something you should be proud of lol

“there's no good or bads when it comes to porn, it flips your switch or it doesn't”
That is literally what determines what is “good” porn and what is “bad” porn. Assault is wrong no matter the context. Porn or not you can still point out how immoral something is

Dynasty isn’t even like nhentai, no one comes here specifically for hentai. It’s mainly regarded as a yuri site (and even then, there’s not just yuri on here)

nhentai is filled with degen stuff, dynasty isn’t. The fact there’s no porn pop ups or ads is proof enough that dynasty is diff from other porn sites.

There's a big, big difference between a kink, even an immoral and/or violent one, and actually wanting to do the real thing. I'm into CNC and heavy degradation, but there's no way I'd ever want to rape someone or truly make them feel worthless. It's one thing to read a fake story about it, or to play act things out partner consensually after heavily discussing it, but IRL? It's sickening to read a news article about shit like that.

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I legit think we're gonna end up with Maria vs Riri where Riri wins, because when there's a choice between an innocent love interest and a sultry one the innocent one almost always wins. Unless it's Macross.

Anyway, let's go Team "really liked our female teachers growing up and then realized it was being gay when we got older, thereby cementing it as a kink" aka Team Maria

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This manga makes me feel seen as an NB butch, even tho I want a breast reduction at most.

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Honestly the thing that stuck out to me the most as being "this is a surface level look at Medieval Europe" is that the MC's name is Rachel but everyone treats her relatively normally. At that time, it would have been a VERY Jewish name and the only reason I can think of why a Christian would have it is her parents or grandparents converting. And even then, the name should totally be cited as part of why the villagers are suspicious of her, but it's not mentioned.

There's times and places where Jews were tolerated in Europe, and they were pretty much always seen as "better than pagan at least" as far as I know. It certainly wasn't nonstop pogroms, although I don't know where 1350s Holy Roman Empire fell on the tolerance scale. But assuming Jews are tolerated as long as they provide a community service is probably the default in more times and places than not for historical Europe. Rachel seems to have found a niche for herself that's clearly beneficial to the local lord in some way and she couldn't do much better than that to secure a place here. The villagers are very unlikely to rise up and burn her without the local authorities instigating it.

Edit: given the state of education and cultural spread it's also entirely possible that while a Jewish person would recognize Rachel as a Jewish name, that specific cultural association would be completely lost on Christian peasants.

While true, others have pointed out that post-plague really wasn't that time. Also, I think my point is more "if they're suspicious of outsiders, wouldn't one of the first remarks about it be that her Jewish name make her extra suspicious?" Or, at the very least, it would be seen as an odd name.

I'll note, by the way, that I highly doubt she's Jewish and would almost certainly be from a convert family, especially because she's a baker. In traditional Jewish law you're supposed to clean your entire house and work space of natural leavening agents before Passover, so she would have to clean her bakery from top to bottom and then not bake for about a week. And even if she was the least observant medieval Jew, she probably wouldn't skimp on the "don't make leavened bread" part. Understandable in a Jewish community, but not good business in gentile one, especially because German areas traditionally eat special breads before and during Easter.

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Honestly the thing that stuck out to me the most as being "this is a surface level look at Medieval Europe" is that the MC's name is Rachel but everyone treats her relatively normally. At that time, it would have been a VERY Jewish name and the only reason I can think of why a Christian would have it is her parents or grandparents converting. And even then, the name should totally be cited as part of why the villagers are suspicious of her, but it's not mentioned.

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100% agree with everyone here about how refreshing it is that the prince character actually wants to be butch. When I was young I settled for the scraps of "wants to be feminine, forced to be masculine and secretly hates it" but now I'm too old to settle for such weak representation.

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smirks in Light Novel reader

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So sad we'll probably never get more on this because Microsoft closed the studio for no reason.

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I can't even see the qrts because Twitter is so broken now.

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Now I'm curious, how do Japanese folks find new books in bookstores if things aren't genre sorted? I'm guessing that the imprint serves as a shorthand for genres, like how Harlequin is all romance novels? How does that work for huge companies that publish tons of different genres?

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This one sucks

Fetishizing (Futa instead of trans)

Other stuff I think you have a good point, but as an AFAB butch with bottom dysphoria I usually feel extremely distanced by how transwomen treat their penises, even if they're not dysphoric about them. I vastly prefer futa/omegaverse because it often mirrors how I feel about it more closely.

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'd think that some people esp. there are just very into the idea that a woman (without quotations, talking from our perspective) can dominate and impregnate a man. Or a man another man. Or woman to a woman. In ABO world, "men" aren't the only ones to dominate the world, alpha "women" can also do that since there doesn't seem to be any difference - I've seen a story where 5 omega-bullying beta men ran from one alpha woman in terror. This probably genuinely feels empowering to some, despite or regardless of how rapey it is. There's a lot of our-world yuri in this site and everywhere with very clear "this girl is the man" and "this girl is the wife" as if nothing changed in any dynamic with same gender relationship, after all.

It's late so this might be a bit rambly.

For me, it's not about the rapey stuff. It's that in ABO-verse, alpha women have dicks and can (usually) be masculine without repercussions. For me as an nb butch, that's actually hitting my gender euphoria. I read a lot of f/f ABO (and g!p) and it's really the only time I've felt like I've seen myself in fiction.

I really feel like even in many story dynamics where you have this girl is the man and this girl is the wife, it never really presents female masculinity as a real option, just an aping of het dynamics. One girl is more "tomboyish" than the other, but still acceptably within the bounds of femininity: they wear dresses at formal events, enjoy a bit of make-up now and again, etc. In ABO, it feels like that's not what it is, that it can be the protective, nurturing, soft parts of masculinity without being divorced from the rough and powerful (the sex).

First time I see glands mentioned in an ABO story so I have no idea what MC is supposed to be looking for, but I asume blonde girl is hiding them, somehow.

I assume pheromone glands, they're usually on the neck, In some stories betas can produce pheromones as well, but this story seems to be going for alpha/omega pheromones only.

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zooms in on tattoo Oh god it's a fucking Mucha pinup Ms. Frizzle and I love it.

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I hadn't considered this perspective, which is totally me showing my own arse here. I apologize, I was stuck inside of my own perspective a bit.

TBH I think it's not one a lot of people, trans or cis, think about. The gender binary is often rerealized, imo, to include trans people, but enbies just can't fit neatly into it at all. For most people, I'd say this is subconscious, just as subconscious heteronormativity still exists even in very queer people.

However, I did not intend to suggest that "writing women with dicks who aren't AMAB trans" is the issue, although I understand how I left that impression. There's clearly nothing inherently wrong with trans bodies, I'm just unhappy when they're used exclusively as fetish material. A woman with a penis doesn't have to be AMAB trans (no matter how hard I personally might find it not to try to map my own experience onto them), it's more important that they are a fully realized character.

I do get that, ABO etc can still definitely fall into the 1D character fetishization trap. There's definitely even ABO written by wlw that falls into that trap, tho I don't read it.

I was specifically using "trans feminine" and "trans masculine" here instead of "trans woman" and "trans man" in an attempt to more broadly include nonbinary identities, but I did not meet the mark. Even then my comment is still a bit reductive, I know, but getting things perfect is a bit out of my grasp, still.

Also, it seems like everyone's genitals aren't actually relevant to the manga, which is nice. I apologize for my part in continuing a discussion on that, as though it's okay to talk about other people's parts like this.

Honestly, I don't consider myself trans, really, my enbieness feels like its own category (tho many NB people feel their enbieness is trans, ofc). And tbh, it's hard to get the every shifting world of gender completely right, what's important is willingness to learn and update your perceptions.

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In this type of fictional setting I'd assume trans people could exist but also totally new types that are girls with dicks?

Yes, clearly trans people could still exist. But choosing to create a type of character who has a trans body, and then writing about those characters while ignoring trans people, sends the message that trans people aren't worth considering, and our experiences aren't worth writing about, and that it's acceptable to consider our bodies as sexual objects without having to accept our basic humanity (since so much ABO stuff, and also futa, is straight up smut). It isn't difficult to look at real world fetishization of trans bodies to see how this dynamic is harmful.

I get that, but me and a lot of the writers I follow who write ABO are AFAB nb people that still identify with the female end of the spectrum in some way. We don't want an AMAB, trans woman experience, because we don't have dicks and we want them. Hell, I read futa, and still read a lot of g!p, because those are also bottom euphoric for me.

While I get being frustrated at trans fetishization in general and also some of the rapey themes that can come in ABO, I'm tired of people saying "writing women with dicks who aren't AMAB trans" equals transphobia. Writing like that basically the only way I've ever seen my ideal gender in media.

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Although I will note that if it's the penis thing (i.e. she doesn't have one), that seems particularly dissonant with actual trans feminine experience. So if that ends up being what "defective" means I'll choose to headcannon Akina as trans masculine, makes much more sense.

Case in point, Akira matches pretty closely to how I feel about my gender, and it frustrates me that "trans masculine" is the only possiblity you could think of to match what the manga says.

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I'm which ever one that dislikes to be put up in categories like this.

Hell my gender identity is butch and I hate this "you gotta be a wlw type" thing. Also damn that biphobia.

That being said, the mention of studs makes me think it was a black lesbian who wrote this, so I looked into it. Seems I'm right as the original is by Natalie Simone around 2000 and was wasn't meant to be serious: https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/6057636-dyke-categories

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Omegaverse discussion 15 Mar 17:56
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The F/F omegaverse is actually really interesting because I know a ton of nb wlw use it to deal with gender dysphoria (raises hand), Supercorp ABO fanfics especially. I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea and it can be badly done (Omegaverse Sisters, etc), but it's actually really been a balm on my soul. F/F omegaverse also seems to be much less rapey and if there is rape in the story it's usually very "we know we're here for the noncon kink we're not kidding ourselves".

-Alphas have knots on the penis. I dont know why this was the one wolf anatomy thing they decided to keep but whatever.

I guess some people find it/idea hot?

For me it's the idea of being intimately linked to a partner and also because ABO knotting is meant to keep semen inside the receiving partner (ala reality) / usually coincides with increased fertility. I'm in that early-30s biological clock phase and the idea of making sure your semen stays in so that your gf/wife can get pregnant is insanely hot..

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Took me a second to realize why Amity is covering her neck in the last panel. Apparently Luz is a bit more hardcore with her kisses when they get older!

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Just something for those that may not know: "The moon is beautiful" thing is a reference, tho one I only know incidentally. In the Meiji era saying "I love you" to a partner was still somewhat bold in terms of frankness, so Natsume Soseki once opined to a student that it was better to translate "I love you" from English into "the moon is beautiful, isn't it?" in Japanese.