It would be nice to have manga examples of femme/butch, femme/femme, and butch/butch relationships. Here’s my contribution:

Sasameki Koto: femme/butch.

Hold on, which one was but butch in Sasameki Koto? The feminine girl with the long hair and fragile feelings who happened to be good at martial arts? Or the forthright, openly lesbian pretty blonde girl? They both came off pretty femmey to me.

Perhaps the beta couple? Tomoe seemed like a soft butch to me while Miyako was a short princess.

I guess the aggressive karate girl who got in trouble near the end and got together with her childhood friend in the epilogue?

LOL why did they made senbei?

I agree to an extent. Most yuri I find on here (and other places) the couple is femme/femme. And really, same with most lesbians in movies, tv, etc etc.

I feel like manga and especially anime are particularly guilty of a hyper-focus on femininity in both romantic and non-romantic scenarios. "Cute girls doing cute things" didn't become a... "thing" for no reason.

Like even when there is a character that's not feminine, she often has an arc about her insecurity over being "boyish" or "not cute", often resolved by assurance that even if she isn't girly in the same ways as her friends, she's just as cute!~ As opposed to sometimes accepting that maybe she really isn't the same, and that's okay.
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Also can we stop thinking every lesbian couple needs to be femme/butch? thanks

I agree to an extent. Most yuri I find on here (and other places) the couple is femme/femme. And really, same with most lesbians in movies, tv, etc etc.

This is true. There is nothing wrong with 2 femmes but I feel it is overdone and depending on who is writing it, it's probably to appeal to straight men and not actual gay women. Still I see more people make a fuss over 2 butch women in a relationship and I wish it would stop. Butch women do not need to be stereo typically pretty to be valid and loved.

Fucking THANK YOU. Everyone just seems to hate letting tomboys be tomboys. Does this character have short hair or is she even the slightest bit not hyper feminine? Better add an entire arc about her ACTUALLY wanting to wear frilly clothing and be super girly. Madokami forbid she not be a hyper submissive bottom either.

Love the [[not yaoi]] tag.

But seriously they look like dudes ngl

I can't believe I'm seeing what you're saying... I thought dynasty was a place where we were free of labels and gender designations based on physical appearances. Why do people always insist on dividing up and placing characters into predefined roles, rather than just treat them as people? Why can't we be better...?

What will they do in the event of a princess carry? They're both princes, it's a paradox!

They will exist in a state of quantum superposition in which each is both simultaneously carrying and being carried until they are observed, at which point the observer will collapse the wave function and the winner will be decided by a coin toss.

Honestly, I'd take "some stuff happened and now they're dating" over "they've been in love with each other for dozens of chapters yet nothing's allowed to happen" (like in the artist's other manga) any day.

Doesn't "some stuff happened and now we're dating" adequately describe about 90% of highschool relationships?

Also, my sense of humor is objectively the worst.

Also, my sense of humor is objectively the worst.

(https://i.imgur.com/BFbk6tI.png)

Hey I was going to make two prince joke...

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critical support for tomboys and butches

Never seen rice crackers for valentines before

What ever happened to this?

I hope the author didn't cancel this. I really like it so far

This is absolute gold and I am so happy to have been able to read it. Even if this is it (and I hope it's not) these few pages made me incredibly happy to read.

This is a masterpiece. Not only we need more tomboy x tomboy content, but the way they're both trying to protect the other is so funny and cute.

I agree to an extent. Most yuri I find on here (and other places) the couple is femme/femme. And really, same with most lesbians in movies, tv, etc etc.

I feel like manga and especially anime are particularly guilty of a hyper-focus on femininity in both romantic and non-romantic scenarios. "Cute girls doing cute things" didn't become a... "thing" for no reason.

Like even when there is a character that's not feminine, she often has an arc about her insecurity over being "boyish" or "not cute", often resolved by assurance that even if she isn't girly in the same ways as her friends, she's just as cute!~ As opposed to sometimes accepting that maybe she really isn't the same, and that's okay.
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Also can we stop thinking every lesbian couple needs to be femme/butch? thanks

I agree to an extent. Most yuri I find on here (and other places) the couple is femme/femme. And really, same with most lesbians in movies, tv, etc etc.

This is true. There is nothing wrong with 2 femmes but I feel it is overdone and depending on who is writing it, it's probably to appeal to straight men and not actual gay women. Still I see more people make a fuss over 2 butch women in a relationship and I wish it would stop. Butch women do not need to be stereo typically pretty to be valid and loved.

Fucking THANK YOU. Everyone just seems to hate letting tomboys be tomboys. Does this character have short hair or is she even the slightest bit not hyper feminine? Better add an entire arc about her ACTUALLY wanting to wear frilly clothing and be super girly. Madokami forbid she not be a hyper submissive bottom either.

I hate Itsuki's arc from Heartcatch Precure because it's this but even worse. Itsuki THOUGHT she had to "be" a boy fot the sake of her family, because her older brother was constantly sick and she thought she had to inherit the family dojo in his place, but she actually wanted to be feminine. The most annoying part is her family was completely fine with her being feminine and not inheriting the dojo and just never bothered saying anything.

I still wonder what happened to this

now that's my dose of serotonin

I'm a big fan of tomboy x tomboy and butch x butch... I really like this one, they're so cute to each other <3

Some of the best ideas are so short-lived :')