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joined Jul 4, 2018

Where the lolicon tag, for one.
For two, man, thus was nice. Delinquents are nice :), in more than one way. May we possibly follow-up yuri18 with delinquent19?

Terumoko
joined Feb 18, 2013

Wow, didn't think so many people would like this. Personally, I really wasn't into it at all. I know it's a 4-koma and all, but the relationship made no sense and moved really damn fast. The characters barely felt like characters to me, and what little I did know about them didn't endear me to them at all. Main shy girl is oblivious and innocent to the point of being roped into a relationship in literally seconds with a complete stranger, yet she claims she loves her anyways. The delinquent girl is literally a rapist who seems to have done this with other girls in the past, even developing a liking for when her targets protest against her advances. I don't care who someone is, rape and sexual assault is not okay by any stretch of the imagination, and I'm no saint so even if someone tries to swear that shit off I could never forgive them. So many people are saying it's cute, and yeah, it's a short little comic that probably isn't meant to be taken too seriously or anything, but it's all so creepy and frankly disgusting to me.

I'm not trying to shit on anyone who does like this story. If you do, that's completely fine and I respect that. But to me, this was honestly a chaotic train wreck. Maybe I am taking this a bit too seriously, but that's just how I felt.

Jesus, thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills or something. Even disregarding the rape-y stuff, this is just a jumbled mess of a story with no sense of coherency. I mean, it's fun, but in the sense that something like The Room is fun.

Just want to add my voice to the critical examination of this mess. I tried to be ok with it, but even then the story/characters did nothing for me. It's like this thing needs to be dark comedy but doesn't understand and takes itself seriously. Anyway I wasn't violently offended or anything but it really wasn't very good for reasons mentioned. Shame because it wouldn't have taken too much more to make it enjoyable.

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joined Jun 11, 2016

Looks like Masahiro Sakurai decided to ditch Smash in favor of yuri! His presence in Smash will be sorely missed, but let's welcome this up and coming yuri author to our ranks (yes, yes, I know it's actually not the same person)

Damn, now I want to know what would happen if Masahiro Sakurai actually wrote a Yuri manga.

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joined Aug 16, 2018

I thought it was gonna be a gag thing then it got serious then it got adorable. 10/10

Redemption by love is like the most seriously adorable trope in the book of tropes.

And of course, to make the trope work, you need a character who needs to be redeemed. For example, someone who is bad, rough, violent, dominant and doesn't show proper respect to girls... that's the whole Heathcliff set, you can't go wrong with classics, lol. Once the heroine makes them see the light with the power of love, voilà: all the problems are solved and all's right with the world!

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

A little too much on the rapey-feelings since it is very probable that she did it to other girls... but aside from that one sentence that ruined it for me (That thingy about the "the more they resist" and so on...) it was sweet?

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

I personally don’t think the delinquent enjoying the resistance as a sign of her being a rapist. Isn’t this just a very normalish kink, like how a lot of people enjoy being dominated? We even see delinquent girl stop despite getting the resistance reaction she liked. Liking to dominate doesn’t mean she’s going to do it. Morals still rein a person in despite what their kinks are.

I understand that it’s pretty clear she’s been in relationships with other girls before, but I don’t think it there was solid indication that she raped every one of them. Not that there was any solid proof that she didn’t. It seems to me the other girls delinquent dated would have been older and more mature than the middle schooler girl, because delinquent was surprised when middle schooler girl didn’t know what sex was.

In the end it’s a 4-koma comic that doesn’t even make sense and their relationship is wack. orz

Consent is the keyword.
Yeah, we didn't see her actually do it. She stopped. And we really don't know what the situations were. Buuut, this still gives off a rather bad vibe...

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joined Nov 15, 2017

I personally don’t think the delinquent enjoying the resistance as a sign of her being a rapist. Isn’t this just a very normalish kink, like how a lot of people enjoy being dominated? We even see delinquent girl stop despite getting the resistance reaction she liked. Liking to dominate doesn’t mean she’s going to do it. Morals still rein a person in despite what their kinks are.

I understand that it’s pretty clear she’s been in relationships with other girls before, but I don’t think it there was solid indication that she raped every one of them. Not that there was any solid proof that she didn’t. It seems to me the other girls delinquent dated would have been older and more mature than the middle schooler girl, because delinquent was surprised when middle schooler girl didn’t know what sex was.

In the end it’s a 4-koma comic that doesn’t even make sense and their relationship is wack. orz

^this. I'd like to add that people make mistakes when discovering their sexual identity, and they shouldn't be judged for life over them. Do schools not make kids read The Scarlett Letter anymore? I personally enjoyed this a lot. And to those who say the story is disjointed; it's a 4-koma, what did you expect? This format doesn't really lend itself all that well to narrative pacing.

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Terumoko
joined Feb 18, 2013

The Winter of Delinquency continues! I love it

I'm pretty sure you meant to say "The Winter of Delinquentent"

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joined Feb 19, 2016

Yo what's up with all these Nee-sans taking this thing too seriously? Don't like something, move on chaps..

Heihtzz
joined Oct 16, 2016

Yo what's up with all these Nee-sans taking this thing too seriously? Don't like something, move on chaps..

If only there was some kind of place where we could discuss our thoughts on something with other individuals, regardless of whether or not the opinions we hold are positive or negative. Some type of forum...

go read white angels have no wings if u like dis

joined Jul 26, 2016

go read white angels have no wings if u like dis

...I'm not really seeing what the two are supposed to have in common.

Ryuko
joined May 1, 2018

Oh my god are y'all serious? Are you for real right now? I finish reading a wholesome, sweet, light-hearted love story and go to the comments to see other positive comments about it but some of you guys are flipping out and yelling RAPE??? i mean honestly, can you not enjoy something without thinking these things? Just... quiet down and be happy, jesus.

joined Jul 26, 2016

Oh my god are y'all serious? Are you for real right now? I finish reading a wholesome, sweet, light-hearted love story and go to the comments to see other positive comments about it but some of you guys are flipping out and yelling RAPE??? i mean honestly, can you not enjoy something without thinking these things? Just... quiet down and be happy, jesus.

It's kind of text y'know. (See also: the younger sister's immediate alarm upon learning of the relationship.) Takes active effort - or serious blinkers - to not be uncomfortable with that bit.

Capturar
joined Jun 27, 2018

The story is cute, yes. But the rape bit is really horrible.

I'm a rape victim. The whole thing about "I like it when they resist" is the stuff of my nightmares.

Capturar
joined Jun 27, 2018

Minagi's past "conquests" need not be rape, just her being aggressive and the girlfriend offering 'resistance' as it seems 90% of Japanese women do: "Oh no! Don't kiss me there! Or grab my butt! Oooo Stooooop!" (She's not fooling anyone, lolz!)

That's because people who write porn have rape fetishes.

Please tell me you DO stop when you're having sex with someone and the person says "no" or "stop".

Capturar
joined Jun 27, 2018

Up Next: Yuri that starts from witnessing a Murder

I know a really cute one

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

Oh my god are y'all serious? Are you for real right now? I finish reading a wholesome, sweet, light-hearted love story and go to the comments to see other positive comments about it but some of you guys are flipping out and yelling RAPE??? i mean honestly, can you not enjoy something without thinking these things? Just... quiet down and be happy, jesus.

It's kind of text y'know. (See also: the younger sister's immediate alarm upon learning of the relationship.) Takes active effort - or serious blinkers - to not be uncomfortable with that bit.

I'm kind of wondering about that too, between that scene and the sister underlining how she's an animal who just takes what she wants and will throw her away once she's got what she wants, this is the impression the author wants to get across. The idea is that she's the worst, a truly awful person who thinks nothing of hurting others, whose entire world is turned around because she actually fell in love.

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joined Nov 15, 2017

Oh my god are y'all serious? Are you for real right now? I finish reading a wholesome, sweet, light-hearted love story and go to the comments to see other positive comments about it but some of you guys are flipping out and yelling RAPE??? i mean honestly, can you not enjoy something without thinking these things? Just... quiet down and be happy, jesus.

It's kind of text y'know. (See also: the younger sister's immediate alarm upon learning of the relationship.) Takes active effort - or serious blinkers - to not be uncomfortable with that bit.

I'm kind of wondering about that too, between that scene and the sister underlining how she's an animal who just takes what she wants and will throw her away once she's got what she wants, this is the impression the author wants to get across. The idea is that she's the worst, a truly awful person who thinks nothing of hurting others, whose entire world is turned around because she actually fell in love.

One of the lessons that my second African American Literature teacher drilled into our heads was the importance of reading things that make us uncomfortable. If we shield ourselves from everything that causes us the slightest amount of negative emotions, then we won't know how to deal with those emotions in any real-world circumstance. You can't make your bad feelings go away by avoiding them, because they'll just grow and grow, and when they do come out, it'll be much worse.

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joined Aug 26, 2018

And once again Moe-shock is proven to be 100% effective against all things horrible in this world.
We should weaponize it and melt the hearts of all dictators.

joined Jul 26, 2016

One of the lessons that my second African American Literature teacher drilled into our heads was the importance of reading things that make us uncomfortable. If we shield ourselves from everything that causes us the slightest amount of negative emotions, then we won't know how to deal with those emotions in any real-world circumstance. You can't make your bad feelings go away by avoiding them, because they'll just grow and grow, and when they do come out, it'll be much worse.

Sure, I don't have a problem with the :concerning: content an sich. (I mean I quite liked White Angels as a study of some terribly fucked up people, too.) But it bugs me how some posters seem hellbent on pretending it doesn't exist. :/

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Terumoko
joined Feb 18, 2013

One of the lessons that my second African American Literature teacher drilled into our heads was the importance of reading things that make us uncomfortable. If we shield ourselves from everything that causes us the slightest amount of negative emotions, then we won't know how to deal with those emotions in any real-world circumstance. You can't make your bad feelings go away by avoiding them, because they'll just grow and grow, and when they do come out, it'll be much worse.

Sure, I don't have a problem with the :concerning: content an sich. (I mean I quite liked White Angels as a study of some terribly fucked up people, too.) But it bugs me how some posters seem hellbent on pretending it doesn't exist. :/

I'm with you on this one, randy.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

One of the lessons that my second African American Literature teacher drilled into our heads was the importance of reading things that make us uncomfortable. If we shield ourselves from everything that causes us the slightest amount of negative emotions, then we won't know how to deal with those emotions in any real-world circumstance. You can't make your bad feelings go away by avoiding them, because they'll just grow and grow, and when they do come out, it'll be much worse.

Sure, I don't have a problem with the :concerning: content an sich. (I mean I quite liked White Angels as a study of some terribly fucked up people, too.) But it bugs me how some posters seem hellbent on pretending it doesn't exist. :/

And it certainly doesn't mean that we can't point out that yeah, these parts of the story are fucked up. Reading something that makes you uncomfortable doesn't have any point if you don't think about and, if you wish, discuss the parts of it that are uncomfortable.

Plus, doing so is a deliberate act. You make the choice to read something that's uncomfortable and can brace yourself beforehand (which is kind of the point behind content warnings). Stumbling across it while reading a comedy of all things is a different sort of thing, don't you agree?

joined Jul 26, 2016

Plus, doing so is a deliberate act. You make the choice to read something that's uncomfortable and can brace yourself beforehand (which is kind of the point behind content warnings). Stumbling across it while reading a comedy of all things is a different sort of thing, don't you agree?

Sure, but I'm not sure how that is relevant to the topic anymore? Also it's y'all Almighty Moderators (all hail) who are the Lords of the Tags aren't you? :v

Speaking of, the argument could be made that the whole toilet scene is worth Foiled rape attempt - that it was foiled by the perp suffering a sudden attack of conscience and bailing, rather than outside intervention, doesn't really change the essentials of the scenario right...?

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joined Dec 27, 2014

I thought it was hilarious. Absolutely love it.
"That is my sister."
"She' dead."
Had me laughing out loud haha

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