ForumThe Feelings We All Must Endure discussion

joined Apr 1, 2015

Mh, to me it felt like she didn't really want to and then did it because Remi asked if she was scared. It's not spelled out so there's no way to know. Actually, I think there are a lot of things not spelled out so there is a lot of space for speculation, which is probably why the views of people here differ so much.

This is the main appeal of this manga. Many things are open, we read some of the characters thoughts but not all of them, I don't remember right now if we ever go deep into Remi thoughts, but from what she says about love being like a trap says a lot about her and what she thinks of love. Was she hurt in the past because of love? Probably yes, I wonder if she was directly rejected (maybe she was already an slut when she fell in love and her love rejected her for it) or was she cheated on? We don't know the answers but we know there is something there.

Same with Asuna and Fue, they are interested in each other, but neither are able to step out of the their comfort zones, if we consider that Fue is sick (be it depression or some other issue) and that are drugs/hormones that could make Asuna less horny, they could make it work somehow, but they do not seek help and just indulge to their sins.

OriginalGengar
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joined Nov 29, 2014

Well, I'd like to answer in more than one sentence but I completely agree, the freedom for the reader is one of the (many) strong points of this manga. Could have just switched that comma with a dot and make it 2 sentences but whatever, now it's 2 sentences anyway..

joined May 1, 2013

I don't remember right now if we ever go deep into Remi thoughts, but from what she says about love being like a trap says a lot about her and what she thinks of love. Was she hurt in the past because of love? Probably yes, I wonder if she was directly rejected (maybe she was already an slut when she fell in love and her love rejected her for it) or was she cheated on? We don't know the answers but we know there is something there.

I might be alone here, but it's really unpleasant to see even a fictional character called a slut. I also can't fully wrap my head around that way of judging way of looking at characters. Whether or not Remi's a well-drawn character, I certainly don't think we're intended to judge her negatively for her views on sex.

OriginalGengar
Kira%202
joined Nov 29, 2014

I might be alone here, but it's really unpleasant to see even a fictional character called a slut. I also can't fully wrap my head around that way of judging way of looking at characters. Whether or not Remi's a well-drawn character, I certainly don't think we're intended to judge her negatively for her views on sex.

We can judge her on what she did though.

joined May 1, 2013

I might be alone here, but it's really unpleasant to see even a fictional character called a slut. I also can't fully wrap my head around that way of judging way of looking at characters. Whether or not Remi's a well-drawn character, I certainly don't think we're intended to judge her negatively for her views on sex.

We can judge her on what she did though.

Which is what, precisely?

Worst thing she did was being mean in the confrontation with Ruki on the beach, and even then she was written to have a benevolent ultimate goal.

joined Oct 12, 2013

I might be alone here, but it's really unpleasant to see even a fictional character called a slut. I also can't fully wrap my head around that way of judging way of looking at characters. Whether or not Remi's a well-drawn character, I certainly don't think we're intended to judge her negatively for her views on sex.

We can judge her on what she did though.

Which is what, precisely?

Worst thing she did was being mean in the confrontation with Ruki on the beach, and even then she was written to have a benevolent ultimate goal.

wat

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

Another discussion about Remi? It's going to be fun to watch.

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Imgres
joined Sep 23, 2013

1000

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Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

And here I thought there would be a nice discussion about Remi, I'm disappointed with you people.

Ai,yo
joined Dec 24, 2014

When the afterword started, I was like"are you for real?" 'cause I didn't really want it to end, gonna miss this manga as all hell. Especially Maasa - can't get enough of her now after that makeover, she's hot as fuck. And as competent.
Well, Merumeru Merume got more likeable now that she's not empty and got time to care for someone else, I guess.
Remisan just pretends to be glad with her life though, it shows how all that is just an act. Well, she IS a cunning snake after all who mastered the camouflage ability.
Ruttan keeps getting her self-esteem crushed more and endures it, just like in the title. So, she's the type of girl to put up with the cruelest teasing and shittiest treatment for love, huh...
Sachi just proved to be well corresponding to her sin, acting all angry and mean, crushing useless things like fallen petals or her peer's pride, hitting people left and right etc etc. And holy shit I never noticed that her surname is almost Ookami, which is indeed wolf.
Asuna...I kind of sympathized with her this chapter, it's not only the letter - her feelings seemed to never again reach Fue. Oh, and on page 12, she Totally was shipping the two so freaking hard!
Fue keeps resembling me more and more, she's even a NEET now, and yeah pretty much everything about this girl is basically me. Except I also have perverted fantasies like Asuna, that's two sins now....
By the way anons, which of the seven girls/demons/animals do you resemble, if any?
PS Yess Shuninta confirmed fox being best girl!

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Ai,yo
joined Dec 24, 2014

That was a really nice series. I guess you would call that a happy ending? There's some ambiguity, sure, but their relationships are on a good path.

I'm still a little confused about how she got "Meru" out of "Beelzebub" but I'm not gonna sweat the small stuff.

Oh, maybe Beeruzebuubu ---> Beeru ---> Beru ----->Meru?

Just like the others, Asumodei ----> Asumo -----> Asuno -----> Asuna?
Berufuegoru -----> Fuegoru ----> Fuego--->Fueko?
Rebiasan-----> Remia-san? Might as well be Rebiatan ----> Remia-tan?
Lucifer ----> Luci ----> Luki ---> Ruki?
Mammon ---> Maaamon ----> Maa---->Maasa?
Sattan -----> Sacchan? ( this one's the easiest )
Also, never knew that the wide-spread surname Inoue has a BUTA character in it
smart, really smart, bravo Shuninta.

Untitled
joined Aug 14, 2014

Maasa and Meru AWW. I need a comic about them now. :'(

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joined Apr 27, 2014

Awesome....demon names and complicated relationships... yet I love grown up realistic stuff like this!! I still prefer her more cheerful works but this is really good, all hail Amano Shuninta-sensei

Yuri_Is_My_Lyfe
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joined Feb 8, 2014

Hmm, first post here, why not add another forum to the many I already frequent and discuss things?

I didnt quote it all, becase it was quite lengthy, but I agreed with a lot of what you said. By the end of this manga, Sacchan's character really pissed me off. As many people said "she technically didn't cheat", she knew fully well what Ruki thought of their relationship and how Ruki loved her. The whole time I'm thinking, if you don't love her, just break u with her. I was very surprised they stayed together.

Eh, I don't know how I feel about this story. Yes, much of it was realistic, but hell if you realistically have friends like this, then people need new friends.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

I really liked this story.
To be honest the only thing that went over my head was that "I need to cheat on someone to see if I hate it" thing.
I don't get it. I probably missed something.
But every thing else I liked from the start.
I liked the issues that the character revealed themselves to have.

Though to be honest I didn't much care if the lead girl got the one she was after. I just didn't. I was happy when her objective got away from the bad boyfriend. I was happy to see her becoming a stronger person and couldn't help but note she didn't seem into Ruki early on.

I kept wondering if there was ever going to be anything more to Remi. I started to wonder what she'd be like when she's old. Would she have that twinkle in her eye and a thousand bawdy tales to tell?

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

Finally bothering to read, and in chapter two, my character recognition have me in despair. I kept having to go back to chapter one because whenever I thought I had everyone worked out, I realised what I thought doesn't work.

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

Well, finished it now. Had the same problem Fragments of Love did for me. About half way through, I started wondering what the point of it was. Although the end left me far more satisfied, it still has a place in 'job for my word processor' because there was so much that I just want to refine according to my sensibilities.

I like on one hand that Meru let herself be at her more natural weight, for obvious reasons, but it's a manga, and the aesthetics of it have me fifty/fifty on it.

In the end, the most important thing I took away from this was Ayu x Emi OTP.

No
joined May 9, 2015

I've been reading stuff on here for years now, and never saw any need to make an account and really take part in anything. But I just finished this, and had to make an account to say: Hot damn that was some good shit! Painful as all hell, but fuckin' a that was good. Its been a looong time since something got me so worked up. I rather liked what I'd read of Shuninta's stuff before, but she outdid herself with this one.

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

I've been reading stuff on here for years now, and never saw any need to make an account and really take part in anything. But I just finished this, and had to make an account to say: Hot damn that was some good shit! Painful as all hell, but fuckin' a that was good. Its been a looong time since something got me so worked up. I rather liked what I'd read of Shuninta's stuff before, but she outdid herself with this one.

Not as painful as it could have been. I was so relieved that the grandfather got injured because I thought worse was coming after the driving lesson presentation foreshadowing.

No
joined May 9, 2015

Not as painful as it could have been. I was so relieved that the grandfather got injured because I thought worse was coming after the driving lesson presentation foreshadowing.

Yeah, you're right; it definitely could've been worse. Though I don't think Shuninta is really the type to do much worse than what was already in this. I mean, she'll put her characters through hell, but I don't think she's the type to actually really harm them too much. That's just the feeling I get, and had pretty much all the way through.

That said, I somehow completely missed what you mentioned and had to look it up. I think that feeling would've been more than a little shaken had I actually noticed it the first time through. But it all more or less worked out in the end, so whatever.

Duuuuuuude!
joined Mar 30, 2015

So... what do you think the likelihood is that this series will ever be officially licenced and sold in the United States? Probably pretty slim huh?

But, I mean, the French got it, so why not the US, right? And I saw Citrus at a local bookstore, so anything's possible...

Here's hoping one day...

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satsuki matoi
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joined May 2, 2014

Wonderful story I started reading this last year and evey update was batter than the other I can say this manga is one Of the good most relastic yuri mangas about collage girls out there am really satisfied with this ... It's sad to say goodbye T,T

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joined Jan 28, 2015

So was I the only one who didn't like this manga? I mean it was realistic, and had some interesting characters, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. I don't know why exactly, but I just truly didn't like it :/

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joined Jan 27, 2015

So was I the only one who didn't like this manga? I mean it was realistic, and had some interesting characters, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. I don't know why exactly, but I just truly didn't like it :/

You're definitely not the only one, people love this manga or hate it. I have the opinion that it wasn't realistic as drama!=realism. The actions and thoughts of the characters make it realistic and some characters were far from realistic. I'm sure you could guess who. The relationship between Fueko and Asuna involved drama and was realistic. Asuna cheated, she was a sex addict and had a problem and she knew it. Asuna loved Fueko and I'm sure Fueko loved Asuna too but they just couldn't be together. I enjoyed their relationship very much even if it didn't end happy. The Maasa and Meru relationship as well, Meru became dependent on Maasa but she grew as a person because of it. Maasa needed someone like that though and they both grew because of each other. Now, if that was it then I would have really enjoyed this manga. I don't want to waste a comment trashing this because of the other 3 though. I have said what I liked and I really did like it a lot, but you can guess how much I hate the rest if my overall rating for this manga isn't high at all. It's Shuninta so there were definitely some great parts and the story was really well put together, but I feel she just missed the mark on this one, she's not perfect after all

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C8-h7dlw0aetesm
joined Jun 14, 2015

I don't know if anyone's done this or even does this on this website... but I call dibs on Ruki. She's mine. I don't indulge much on the prospect of waifus, but I called her. Someone else wants her? YOU CAN'T HAVE HER. Jokes aside, I did like the planning in the series and the fact that the characters are the seven deadly sins of Yuri. Not the best in plot structure or execution, but what can you do?

last edited at Jul 10, 2015 12:44PM

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