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Sorry but this looks like HORRIBLE writing. At least for Mei. She is just a submissive pushover again. She can talk about "It is my decision" all she wants but it is not. How is accepting the arranged marriage her decision? It has nothing to do with the Academy. It is only to please what she thinks her grandfather wants...WITHOUT EVERY TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT! I mean what the fuck? She never asked him "Do I have to marry some random guy you chose for me?" Nope. Just a good submissive Japanese wife. God forbid she gets any character development. No. Wont happen. Her fiance will see her ring, make the connection with Yuzu and tell her she does not have to marry him. She wont act herself. Others have to do it for her like it has always been.
I'll forgive Saburouta if the ending is a joke, like:
Yuzu: But gramps, I love her. I want to marry her.
Mei's grandfather: Is that so? Ok, then, that's fine, go ahead. Why no one told me that before?
If that truly happens this will be funnier than Goku Blanco
This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.
Just cause a story has less happy parts and the characters have to go through struggles and hardships doesn't make it bad. You might not like the fact, but it doesn't mean it's awful writing.
Just looking forward to how this is going to get resolved.
Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere? at this point im just bored out of my mind. Try something new, the whole thing just smells of cliche farts.
It never goes anywhere because Mei doesn't know how normal humans act.
This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.
Just cause a story has less happy parts and the characters have to go through struggles and hardships doesn't make it bad. You might not like the fact, but it doesn't mean it's awful writing.
Except it's bad writing. Read the manga as a whole so far, the author loves contrived, cheap drama. But she doesn't know how to cause the drama, so she adds a third whole to the scheme (gramps, Matsuri, twins, Harumin's sister, Shirapon, the gramps/fiance again). This happens every arc. It's repetitive, it doesn't make sense how contrived it is, and it's a cheap way to cause drama. I'm fine with a story having sad moments, but this is plain shit-tier writing.
This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.
Just cause a story has less happy parts and the characters have to go through struggles and hardships doesn't make it bad. You might not like the fact, but it doesn't mean it's awful writing.
Except it's bad writing. Read the manga as a whole so far, the author loves contrived, cheap drama. But she doesn't know how to cause the drama, so she adds a third whole to the scheme (gramps, Matsuri, twins, Harumin's sister, Shirapon, the gramps/fiance again). This happens every arc. It's repetitive, it doesn't make sense how contrived it is, and it's a cheap way to cause drama. I'm fine with a story having sad moments, but this is plain shit-tier writing.
It might be 'low quality' writing compared to other manga such as One Punch Man etc., but this is a drama manga about two 16 year old steph-sisters falling in love. With the base plot that is has, there isn't much to work with to make it an amazing well thought out deep emotional introspective manga. It's more about Mei's development than anything else really, and yeah Saburo Uta 'drags it on' by adding new characters, but that's just to keep the story going and create new situations for Mei to develop in. What do you want her to do? Derail this manga's plot and initial setting suddenly warping them into a completely different style of plot development and continuation so as to make it higher tier quality? If the author wanted that she'd have made it so from the beginning. But she doesn't, she's just writing a cliche filled drama about Mei and her growth through meeting and falling in love with Yuzu.
If you want something fancier then go read something else. It's been 36 chapters, you should have been able to figure out whether you like it and want to continue reading it or not. Just cause something is cliche'd and not very intricate and difficult at first sight doesn't mean it's horribly bad. Just means it's not your thing.
last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:51PM
can someone just turn this into a NTR hentai so we can atleast get some use out of the good looking characters.
how this was chosen to be adapted as anime idk
someones badmouthing Mei,another ones badmouthing Yuzu another badmouthing SU.people here being so rude.I have never seen any sites or groups in which people are so rude.
There are plenty of people here who like the manga. Negative feedback is just more readily posted than positive ones. Tbh dynasty scans is pretty mild compared to some other sites out there. Part of the reason being gatekeeper Nez-chan. (Thank you for your continuous work and effort.)
last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:54PM
mei’s whole family is a bunch of selfish cucks
really want yuzu to find someone else
Citrus sure always manages to attract a lot of attention. And, as always, the reactions here are diametrically opposite from the ones that the Japanese readers had, that's pretty funny.
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Well, someone is talking about cucks and wants ntr, we can't get any lower
Well, someone is talking about cucks and wants ntr, we can't get any lower
There's always vore.
Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere?
It's going somewhere, just not the way you like, I guess.
You mean right back to where we started? Because as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if we get some big play that ends the engagement just like what happened in chapter 2. The only question is whether Yuzu will do it or someone else.
Right now Mei is deciding how Yuzu should feel for her, which I feel like is something that this series has also already grappled with and condemned as well(I don't remember anymore). So I don't expect the engagement to stick unless the series ends and Saburouta goes for the convenient sham marriage ending.
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someones badmouthing Mei,another ones badmouthing Yuzu another badmouthing SU.people here being so rude.I have never seen any sites or groups in which people are so rude.
There are plenty of people here who like the manga. Negative feedback is just more readily posted than positive ones. Tbh dynasty scans is pretty mild compared to some other sites out there. Part of the reason being gatekeeper Nez-chan. (Thank you for your continuous work and effort.)
Saburouta has already received death threats from (western) fans. Go figure.
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!
Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere?
It's going somewhere, just not the way you like, I guess.
You mean right back to where we started? Because as it stands I wouldn't be surprised if we get some big play that ends the engagement just like what happened in chapter 2. The only question is whether Yuzu will do it or someone else.
Right now Mei is deciding how Yuzu should feel for her, which I feel like is something that this series has also already grappled with and condemned as well(I don't remember anymore). So I don't expect the engagement to stick unless the series ends and Saburouta goes for the convenient sham marriage ending.
Yeah unfortunately every time progress gets made it goes right back. It would be nice if progress would have stayed and they could have worked things out together like a couple because surprise couples can deal with problems together you don't need to force one character to be Superman saving Lois.
Maybe Citrus is meant to be figurative spelling of sour. Short rant:
This oddly well-timed English release outlines what I wish would happen on Yuzu's end. This includes that I wish this note would have actual consequences, like a decision should. Probably neither will happen.
Long rant:
I'd also be interested in how Mei managed to erase her presence in Yuzu's live in school. The whole premise works against this chapter not being absurd execution-wise. For me this manages to be a new bottom even after the latest chapters in the quality of the story's writing. Maybe it has the intended effect on people still being invested in the characters, though I still wish there was a co-author or Saburouta worked only on the art.
I started watching the anime and was relieved to see that they managed to make the characters a bit more believable. I mostly mean Mei.
The story is quite obviously set up for them to end up together. That means this chapter is either a filler or intended as a punch on the emotional plane. Both would be equally selfish from the story/author. So I really wish it would be what will happen. Mei supposedly understood her options fully, then made a conscious, well-informed decision, then formulated a plan. She should work hard at being a great chairwoman, head of the family, a good wife of her husband, and an exemplary mother of their children. Yuzu should deal with her effectively unrequited love for Mei and that should end in either tragedy, pathetic angst/vegetation, staying alone, or finding someone, anyone else other than Mei. That person could be from Matsuri to even a guy, maybe even Mei's husband, but that story I'd expect earlier from other authors, e.g. Kodama Naoko, Kawanami Izumi, or even Takemiya Jin.
I'm curious whether this arc will be part of the anime. Did anyone measure the relative pace between episodes and chapters? They could just have a divergent ending, of course, like it often happens, or could leave it open and add an OVA with the remainder of the manga's story after it ends. As for the manga, another frightful thing that came to mind after thinking about the time skip is the possibility of a Strawberry Panic! ending.
last edited at Feb 17, 2018 3:13PM
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
Btw, how long was the time-skip? A year?
Btw, how long was the time-skip? A year?
Six months.
Is chapter 36 the last one? If so, then that's a rather abrupt ending, almost as if Saburouta was just waiting for this to be turned into an anime, so she could grab the money and ditch a story she was not interested in anymore.
So let's see. Mei seduces Yuzu, toys with her feelings for 8 volumes, then just turns poor Yuzu's world all pretzel-shaped by entering an arranged marriage which hadn't even been mentioned until this volume. This is SO damn cliche as to be insulting, and of course very disappointing for all the readers who were rooting for Yuzu and Mei to be together.
So, really, what was the point of all of this? Was it all just a ruse so Saburouta could cash in on having two cute girls kissing each other? Sure, I liked that, and I realize this story basically just very tastefully drawn trash, but I still feel the Yuzu-Mei pairing had a lot of potential.
Still, I can't say I am THAT surprised. I remember being extremely pissed off when Yumi and Sachiko's relationship in Maria-Sama Ga Miteru just fizzled out after some 33 volumes of teasing, but now I realize that this is just how girl-girl relationships in Japanese media get treated in general. It's all just youthful silliness, they will get married to a guy after all, and their feelings for another girl will turn into nothing but bittersweet memories.
In any case, I feel no urge anymore to keep watching the anime, since seeing Mei will only make me want to throw something at the screen. Bummer.
Is chapter 36 the last one?
It's not.
And read it now. Yep, it hurts, but I really can not say I am surprised. This is very Mei-like. I also do not think this is bad writing, since it has pretty clear internal consistency.
Fipse
"Inheriting the academy became something I wanted to do of my own will." That being said, as Klice stated, we already discussed at length what Mei's social position entails, but of all that we covered I would want to bring one possible explanation as to why the marriage.
Female heiresses inheriting the business in lack of male heirs is nothing unheard of in Japan, however, Mei is not just a woman, she is also very young. How many CEOs do you know who are just fresh out of high school? Her fiance is older, from a prestigious family himself, a second son (so he will not be bogged down by running that business), and has management experience. The grandfather specifically selected him because he has an unimposing, gentle character, and he would serve as practical help for Mei, while the union alone would put business partners, boards and parents of students at ease, since they would know a high schooler is not running the academy unchecked.
I know I might sound boring bringing this up again, but you really can not have a lesbian who is dating her step-sister openly as the charwoman of a prestigious girls' academy. For one, gay and Japan. Two, step-sibling relationships are viewed as actual incest by many people, and are generally not socially acceptable (even outside Japan, even if heterosexual). I mean, name me one prestigious school anywhere in the world, east or west, that is run by an openly gay person. Let alone a gay person who is in a relationship with their own same-sex step-sibling. It is stupid, and it is not something I am fond of, but such is the world at present.
Mei basically has three choices, choose family and duty over Yuzu (as she seemingly did here), choose Yuzu openly (in which case her dream of running the academy is finished), or try to compromise (somehow convince the boards, any potential investors, and the parents of students that someone as young as her is up to the task, break off the engagement and come clean to grandfather she does not wish to marry; then she would be able to be with Yuzu, provided they keep the relationship a secret from the general public).