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joined Jun 23, 2017

Am I the only one who's not surprised?
Mei has been iffy on the relationship from the very beginning, and clearly was still loyal to the grandfather. Sadly, this was kind of inevitable.

I don't think this is a way of skipping the story arc. It's an unfortunate development WITHIN the story arc.

Not (really) surprised, still hurt a bit to see it happening. I mean it seemed obvious from the past chapters that the school and responsibilities is what Mei put first and foremost since the start of the story, so it seems "logical" for her to go down that route. I guess the point of the arc is either somebody (her Dad, Yuzu's mum?) or Mei herself making Mei realising that this may not be the best route for her after all.

The wait will be long...

Be honest this new chapter is... low. Just low. [...] Or we can stop read this.

If you meant it hurt badly, I guess it is. It's emotionally "bad" for the characters, because "we" want them to be happy but it makes sense, so it's not really bad. That said, I'll keep reading it, because I think it's worth it in the end!

Klice C'mon now, you know better. Just leave them to their bile.

Apologies.

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

I mean bad writing.

joined Jan 20, 2018

Do you want me to fix your formatting there, Hiromi?

No

Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

Not (really) surprised, still hurt a bit to see it happening. I mean it seemed obvious from the past chapters that the school and responsibilities is what Mei put first and foremost since the start of the story, so it seems "logical" for her to go down that route. I guess the point of the arc is either somebody (her Dad, Yuzu's mum?) or Mei herself making Mei realising that this may not be the best route for her after all.

There are two ways to follow your path. Mei chose that route because she firmly believes it's what she wants, but this path has been offered to her. She just embraced it. Is it really the path she has the strong will to follow (to quote Mitsuko in chapter 20)? I doubt it because she recognized she couldn't be in front of Yuzu without breaking down. So her will is challenged.

Mitsuko said someone who knows the difference between a path chosen with a strong will and path accepted because it's already given can build his/her own path.

Maybe that's what Mei will need to realize.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Am I the only one who's not surprised?
Mei has been iffy on the relationship from the very beginning, and clearly was still loyal to the grandfather. Sadly, this was kind of inevitable.

I don't think this is a way of skipping the story arc. It's an unfortunate development WITHIN the story arc.

Not (really) surprised, still hurt a bit to see it happening. I mean it seemed obvious from the past chapters that the school and responsibilities is what Mei put first and foremost since the start of the story, so it seems "logical" for her to go down that route. I guess the point of the arc is either somebody (her Dad, Yuzu's mum?) or Mei herself making Mei realising that this may not be the best route for her after all.

Yeah, basically this. Mei has been torn between her responsibilities towards the school and her feelings for Yuzu precisely because both matter to her a great deal, but all of a sudden people are behaving as though the choice she made here makes no sense, which is just not true. The readers wanted them together, so that is an out-of-universe preferred choice, but from Mei's perspective both options make sense in their own ways, and to be perfectly honest, given her social position, her choosing family and duty (at least initially) is in my opinion more believable, and in line with what we are given of Mei's character so far. Choosing her feelings over everything else is not very Mei-like, and would seem more like escapism fulfilment for the benefit of the readers.

This series had some problems with writing, most memorably the monster-of-the-week style of earlier chapters, and later the arranged marriage popping up again (marriage itself made sense, but not mentioning it for 8 volumes did not). This chapter does not sound like bad writing, though to actually know this, I first need to read it in English. Besides, this is not the last chapter. My guess is that Klice is right, this will serve to make Mei realise Yuzu is more important to her.

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joined Jun 23, 2017

I mean bad writing.

I don't think so, it follows the intrigue quite logically. Some could say it's cop out (for Mei as well, ironically), but since it makes sense, I can't help but feel like it's one's own feeling that comes into the judgment (obv). Of course, I would've hoped a deus ex machina of any sort, I guess I would've liked to see Mei struggle with her decision a bit more and maybe try to make it work... But that are just my wishes, that something different has happened isn't bad writing. It's simple, but it's not bad.

Some find it bad because it's simple and they think if something isn't overly smart and subtle, then it's bad. Some just hate the drama, for whatever reasons, so they call it forced and try to dismiss it as cheap tricks or whatever. Some just don't like it, I guess. It's more by the book, than bad : my reasons are because it makes me feel something (so the intent is there for me and numerous people) and it makes sense inside the scope of the story (that'd be bad if it didn't).

Sorry for the rambling!


Is it really the path she has the strong will to follow (to quote Mitsuko in chapter 20)? I doubt it because she recognized she couldn't be in front of Yuzu without breaking down. So her will is challenged.

Yeah, I say it's Mei's choice but the fact that, in the translation I've read, she says that she can't face Yuzu or she would falter... I mean, it's an easy cop-out, I do it all the time : take shelter in "duties" and taking the "most reasonable" decision just because you're afraid of dealing with your emotions and insecurities...

I admit time-skip are frustrating, I would've wished to see how Yuzu had reacted when she read the letter the first time. The fact that she seems to still be devastated two years (?) later makes me wary of her state at the time. A week long of crying not moving from your bed? All the sad faces of her friend, which probably happen daily.. Damn, the angst, the suffering. Saburouta-sensei's strong, really strong at messing with her characters (and mine) feelings. But more importantly, I wonder what she did, did she try to get Mei back or did she, as I was thinking, just give up her love to let Mei follow her own choices? It seems to be the latter.

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Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

I don't think she let down her love. She's still wearing the ring. It is a sign, she's waiting for her. she probably couldn't intervene. Mei acted when she wasn't home. And deep down, Yuzu already understand that she's was the proactive one, sometimes too proactive she thought, and she cannot decides for Mei. Mei has to come back by her own will. If Yuzu strikes and fight, she knows Mei will cede, but will she have Mei's true desires? Maybe she'll strike in volume 10, after all, it's Yuzu.

For the time-skip: 6:7 months. Chapter 35, it was late summer, in September for the beginning of the second semester of 2nd year. Year, it's the third year, in April (sakura petals).

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 4:19PM by Nezchan

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

Ok Klice maybe not bad writing... But this chapter was not what i expected. Ending of 35 chapter looked like "cliffhanger" for me. And what we got? Time-skip.

Ava
joined Jul 16, 2013

Sorry but this looks like HORRIBLE writing. At least for Mei. She is just a submissive pushover again. She can talk about "It is my decision" all she wants but it is not. How is accepting the arranged marriage her decision? It has nothing to do with the Academy. It is only to please what she thinks her grandfather wants...WITHOUT EVERY TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT! I mean what the fuck? She never asked him "Do I have to marry some random guy you chose for me?" Nope. Just a good submissive Japanese wife. God forbid she gets any character development. No. Wont happen. Her fiance will see her ring, make the connection with Yuzu and tell her she does not have to marry him. She wont act herself. Others have to do it for her like it has always been.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Fipse
The marriage was not mentioned, as far as I am aware of.

Edit: Never mind, lol, I did not see it was posted in the meantime. I thought we were still discussing raws, and no one said anything about the marriage there.

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:49PM

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

Wont happen. Her fiance will see her ring, make the connection with Yuzu and tell her she does not have to marry him. She wont act herself. Others have to do it for her like it has always been.

Exactly! That's the point!

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Sorry but this looks like HORRIBLE writing. At least for Mei. She is just a submissive pushover again. She can talk about "It is my decision" all she wants but it is not. How is accepting the arranged marriage her decision? It has nothing to do with the Academy. It is only to please what she thinks her grandfather wants...WITHOUT EVERY TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT! I mean what the fuck? She never asked him "Do I have to marry some random guy you chose for me?" Nope. Just a good submissive Japanese wife. God forbid she gets any character development. No. Wont happen. Her fiance will see her ring, make the connection with Yuzu and tell her she does not have to marry him. She wont act herself. Others have to do it for her like it has always been.

I'll forgive Saburouta if the ending is a joke, like:
Yuzu: But gramps, I love her. I want to marry her.
Mei's grandfather: Is that so? Ok, then, that's fine, go ahead. Why no one told me that before?

Capture
joined Feb 5, 2017

will there be a 10th volume?

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

@up ofc, this is now the end of story.

Now we can only have hope Saburo Uta have some plan how fix all of this.

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:07PM

Arg
joined Jan 17, 2014

This is a insult to soap operas

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joined Jun 23, 2017

She is just a submissive pushover again. She can talk about "It is my decision" all she wants but it is not. How is accepting the arranged marriage her decision?

She decided to inherit the school and we have talked at length how for the sake of reputation you can't lead a school of rich young girl if you're a lesbian. Don't hate Saburouta, hate the country!

Of course, Mei is still weak and she is running away. But she is running away out of her own accord. Using pride, honour, work or whatever to flee from your feeling isn't out of character. I'm still a bit disappointed, but that doesn't make it bad writing in my book.

But this chapter was not what i expected. Ending of 35 chapter looked like "cliffhanger" for me. And what we got? Time-skip.

It's stretching things a bit yes, perhaps she judged it would be better to solve everything in another manner than to have Mei magically saying "ok fuck the school and my duty, I'm going to live a good love life with my lesbian step-sister".

I would've wished that but that's just my wishes and it wouldn't have made sense. Perhaps the time skip is the time Mei needs to stand for herself and make her choice. But the poor thing needs help most for managing her love life. Perhaps daddy, perhaps shirapon or even eyebrow-chan.

And the suffering is what brought (and many readers) to love the story, so she couldn't end it without one last big drama. At some point, you should have known and stopped as many did.

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:31PM

joined Nov 5, 2017

This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.

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joined Jul 3, 2015

Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere? at this point im just bored out of my mind. Try something new, the whole thing just smells of cliche farts.

Ava
joined Jul 16, 2013

She decided to inherit the school and we have talked at length how for the sake of reputation you can't lead a school of rich young girl if you're a lesbian. Don't hate Saburouta, hate the country!

So do not marry at all and life together with your "sister"?

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joined Jun 23, 2017

Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere?

It's going somewhere, just not the way you like, I guess.

So do not marry at all and life together with your "sister"?

Single women are frowned upon in Japan, when you're close to 30yo, if you're still single everybody begins to tell you "It'd be time you married a man and make some children". Once again, hate the country, not the author!

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 2:33PM

Nyohohoho
joined Apr 20, 2013

Wtv posted:

Sorry but this looks like HORRIBLE writing. At least for Mei. She is just a submissive pushover again. She can talk about "It is my decision" all she wants but it is not. How is accepting the arranged marriage her decision? It has nothing to do with the Academy. It is only to please what she thinks her grandfather wants...WITHOUT EVERY TALKING TO HIM ABOUT IT! I mean what the fuck? She never asked him "Do I have to marry some random guy you chose for me?" Nope. Just a good submissive Japanese wife. God forbid she gets any character development. No. Wont happen. Her fiance will see her ring, make the connection with Yuzu and tell her she does not have to marry him. She wont act herself. Others have to do it for her like it has always been.

I'll forgive Saburouta if the ending is a joke, like:
Yuzu: But gramps, I love her. I want to marry her.
Mei's grandfather: Is that so? Ok, then, that's fine, go ahead. Why no one told me that before?

If that truly happens this will be funnier than Goku Blanco

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joined Dec 27, 2014

This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.

Just cause a story has less happy parts and the characters have to go through struggles and hardships doesn't make it bad. You might not like the fact, but it doesn't mean it's awful writing.

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joined Dec 27, 2014

Just looking forward to how this is going to get resolved.

joined Jan 11, 2018

Why does it feel like this series never gets anywhere? at this point im just bored out of my mind. Try something new, the whole thing just smells of cliche farts.

It never goes anywhere because Mei doesn't know how normal humans act.

joined Nov 5, 2017

This manga has one of the worst writing I've seen in a yuri series ever. I like Yuzu a lot and I feel bad for her, I'd love to take her out of this trash manga and put her in another yuri romance where she can be with a girl who deserves her love, but those are just my delusions. It's so obvious this cheap, poor excuse of an arc will end with Yuzu and Mei married.

Just cause a story has less happy parts and the characters have to go through struggles and hardships doesn't make it bad. You might not like the fact, but it doesn't mean it's awful writing.

Except it's bad writing. Read the manga as a whole so far, the author loves contrived, cheap drama. But she doesn't know how to cause the drama, so she adds a third whole to the scheme (gramps, Matsuri, twins, Harumin's sister, Shirapon, the gramps/fiance again). This happens every arc. It's repetitive, it doesn't make sense how contrived it is, and it's a cheap way to cause drama. I'm fine with a story having sad moments, but this is plain shit-tier writing.

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