Forum › Adachi and Shimamura (Moke ver.) discussion

Candy....
joined Dec 10, 2021

i wonder how long manga will go on? i may continue the novel along with it but i dont remember where i left off

i don't think we've been given a solid end point for the manga but after volume 10 of the LNs it stops being as much of a linear narrative and starts jumping around the timeline so it wouldn't shock me if thats when they called it. I don't know if they'd ever adapt SS, 99.9, or SS2 which is unfortunate bc those have some of my favourite moments in the entire series (99.9 final chapter and SS2 final chapter in manga form would be the end of me holy shit) but like, anything could happen

Well, volume 8 is technically the ending. I'd expect somewhere around there would be a natural stopping point.

yeah but if thats the case then we're like, two or three chapters from the end and i dont want that to be true sdfjdksfhsfsjk

LOL Yeah, I think we'll go a bit beyond that at least. We should at least have a whole new volume.

one more volume would make sense to me, they'll probably skip a majority of vol 9 the hino and nagafugi chapters specifically, as much as i love those two the manga hasn't been giving them the love they deserve and then do most of vol 10. the last chapter of vol 10 feels kind of like a second ending to the series to me so i think it'd be a natural stopping point. id really really love for them to do past that but idk i just don't see it happening for some reason (yuzuhara moke please please please please prove me wrong)

Saqzdkdav1c71
joined Dec 7, 2021

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/adachi_and_shimamura_moke_ver_ch44_5#16
On the third panel ( is that how you call those?) hardcore was wrote as "haredcore" (unless that was somehow intentional haha)

joined May 9, 2017

The conversation was nice in itself, it feels too much like a plot device to help Shimamura reflect on her relationship.

Old%20man%20prof
joined Oct 25, 2022

I enjoyed this scene in the novels, and it's fun to see it illustrated here.

1453e55cc3ab545974cae651c20afaf3
joined May 28, 2021

This is a major turning point in the novels for Shimamura and how she views her relationship with Adachi. From that point on, she's as dedicated to it as Adachi is, in her own way. It loses some of its impact in manga form, but still, it's a nice moment nonetheless :)

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Candy....
joined Dec 10, 2021

this chapter really highlights how aroace spec shimamura is tbh. Its honestly a huge part of her character and defines the way she views her relationship w adachi especially up to this point in the series.

I'd say that her being arospec is actually a core component of the series, and i'd go so far as to say it wouldn't be the same series if she wasn't. The majority of the series, esp up until this point, is about shimamura trying to grapple w her relationship to adachi: how it's different than her relationships w other people, why adachi wants it to be different, and if she (shimamura) wants it to be different.

her entire perspective on relationships is shaped by her being arospec, and since shes the main character the entire series is seen through that lens and i adore it. arospec representation is honeslty so hard to come by, and having it be done so well and so naturally is a testament to Iruma as a writer

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1461894977557
joined Jun 12, 2015

There it is. The old yuri trope that can't die.

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joined Apr 27, 2014

Ohhh, so now I see progress! I don't know how it is to be aroace, I am demi, so it's very interesting to see a character who looks like might be somewhere on the broad ace spectrum, nice!

joined Feb 1, 2021

The conversation was nice in itself, it feels too much like a plot device to help Shimamura reflect on her relationship.

Eh, Shimamura doing rubber-duck debugging on her own relationship feels pretty in-character for her IMO

1453e55cc3ab545974cae651c20afaf3
joined May 28, 2021

FWIW and without spoiling too much, it's very much implied in the later novels that their relationship involves regular physical intimacy. Which doesn't mean that Shimamura wouldn't still identify as aro or ace, obviously. The author is the only one who would really know ultimately.

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In%20your%20butt
joined Jun 21, 2021

FWIW and without spoiling too much, it's very much implied in the later novels that their relationship involves regular physical intimacy. Which doesn't mean that Shimamura wouldn't still identify as aro or ace, obviously. This author is the only one who would really know ultimately.

I can definitely see that. Shimamura does strike me as the "Personally I don't care about it but if it makes my partner happy, i'm fine with doing it" kinda ace.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Pancho gets to analyze Shimamura. So does Shimamura herself.

7bxpww
joined Nov 15, 2023

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it, yuri manga in general is stuck with this trope for some reason

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Candy....
joined Dec 10, 2021

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

7bxpww
joined Nov 15, 2023

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

Yes, how dare I am to have my own thoughts on the chapter not matching yours, my apology

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

Yes, how dare I am to have my own thoughts on the chapter not matching yours, my apology

Your username is what I'm bothered by. I also agree, though; not sure where you got that reading from. What about Shima implies that?

last edited at Nov 25, 2025 4:02PM

Cs4_cover
joined Jul 13, 2015

Pancho was a Himejoshi all this timw

joined May 9, 2017

The conversation was nice in itself, it feels too much like a plot device to help Shimamura reflect on her relationship.

Eh, Shimamura doing rubber-duck debugging on her own relationship feels pretty in-character for her IMO

I was thinking of her classmate, not Shimamura. Shimamura's reaction is pretty inline with herself indeed, but the type of question and reaction from her classmate is a bit too convenient for the sake of the plot imo.

7bxpww
joined Nov 15, 2023

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

Yes, how dare I am to have my own thoughts on the chapter not matching yours, my apology

Your username is what I'm bothered by. I also agree, though; not sure where you got that reading from. What about Shima implies that?

Pancho asks Shima if she likes girls and she said no, despite the latter being in a wlw relationship. If it is not the super old yuri trope that somehow refuses to die then what is it ?

joined Jul 6, 2020

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

Yes, how dare I am to have my own thoughts on the chapter not matching yours, my apology

Your username is what I'm bothered by. I also agree, though; not sure where you got that reading from. What about Shima implies that?

Pancho asks Shima if she likes girls and she said no, despite the latter being in a wlw relationship. If it is not the super old yuri trope that somehow refuses to die then what is it ?

You kinda skipped a few panels

Candy....
joined Dec 10, 2021

Please not the overused, lesbophobic "character isn’t interested in girls, but she does love her girlfriend" trope. Im quite sick of it

i promise i'm not saying this to be rude but if that's what you took away from this chapter then i dont think you have a very good understanding of this series or these characters

Yes, how dare I am to have my own thoughts on the chapter not matching yours, my apology

Your username is what I'm bothered by. I also agree, though; not sure where you got that reading from. What about Shima implies that?

Pancho asks Shima if she likes girls and she said no, despite the latter being in a wlw relationship. If it is not the super old yuri trope that somehow refuses to die then what is it ?

Ok i can sort of maybe almost see how you came to this conclusion (still not really) if we view this chapter in a vacuum, but taking the entire rest of the series into account it falls apart (also im p sure shimamura was saying no to the "what a hottie part" but i digress). Shimamuras answer revolves around how she's viewed relationships up until this point.

Shimamura has spent the last few years of her life believing herself to be a fundamentally unkind person, and expected the rest of the world to just pass her by. Because of this, she hasn't really put much thought or effort into any of her relationships, familial or platonic (this is actually outlined later in this chapter when pancho says "you don't seem the type to take interest in anyone"). Earlier in the series (at least in the novels its been a while since i've reread the manga) in volume 6, shimamura talks about how, to her, human relationships are something almost inconvenient, becasue of this, I can't imagine shes had many nuanced thoughts about her own sexuality.

The way I interpret it, is that when shimamura says she's not interested in girls, it's because she's not particularly interest in anyone romantically (aside from Adachi). She wasn't even really fully aware of the scope of her own feelings for Adachi until Pancho pointed them out to her in this very chapter (this is its own topic but i'm not going to get into it right now).

What it all boils down to is that this is the first time in years that shimamura has actively cared for someone like this (Gon doesn't count), and so she doesn't really have a frame of reference for if she likes girls or not.

this paragraph is the main part that contradicts what you're saying, so you only really have to read this, but the rest of it gives a more solid argument I'd also point out that the trope you're referring to typically is "straight girl makes an exception for one lesbian" but there is absolutely no mention of guys when shimamura says no to Panchos question, i don't think shimamura has even interacted with a single male character her age in the entire series. It isn't "shimamura only likes guys except for adachi" it's "if not for adachi, shimamura wouldn't like anyone romantically"

I hope this makes sense and answers your question isn't just me rambling :)

(coming back to this bc im kind of afraid ive painted shimamura as some unkind uncaring person when that obviously isn't the case (plenty of evidence all throughout the series to prove that she isn't), it's just that she herself believed she was an unkind uncaring person)

last edited at Nov 27, 2025 1:26PM

joined Aug 13, 2023

Hold on, I think some wires got crossed there, Page 10 is Page 10 from the latest chapter of Confessions for a Moron...?

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/adachi_and_shimamura_moke_ver_ch44_5#10

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/confessions_for_a_moron_ch6_1#11

Yuno
joined Aug 22, 2016

This chapter was so freaking cute. I was also confused by p10.

joined Aug 13, 2023

Ah, looks like it got fixed - thank you!

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