Hmm I wasn’t expecting Lily to be rescued in time. If she loves Kaoru that much, he gave her sunshine in the shade and now he’s gone, I mean what can Hana do to save her from a future she doesn’t want? What about the inevitable arranged marriage? They’d never be able to run away together - someone would catch them (that is, only if the father puts a high value on Lily’s marriage and would go through the trouble of hiring a tracker). Lily also doesn’t love Hana and I don’t think Hana loves Lily. Hana was way too obsessed with filling in the shoes, perpetuating a lie, and living in fear of Lily discovering her lie. Lily was only using Hana as Kaoru’s substitute, since that was Hana’s wish. Very few people love Lily as she is, and the rest make her life incredibly miserable. Morally I want to believe that as long as her life touches at least one persons heart and they love her in return, that should be all she needs to live with her head high. But that’s not what was happening here. Her maid is going to blame herself, but that wasn’t Lily’s intention. None of the people seem to truly know how hard Lily’s existence is except Lily herself. Especially because suicidal people hide it so well. Personally, I think Hana saving Lily while being ignorant to Lily’s feelings is unfair.

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Hmm I wasn’t expecting Lily to be rescued in time. If she loves Kaoru that much, he gave her sunshine in the shade and now he’s gone, I mean what can Hana do to save her from a future she doesn’t want? What about the inevitable arranged marriage? They’d never be able to run away together - someone would catch them (that is, only if the father puts a high value on Lily’s marriage and would go through the trouble of hiring a tracker). Lily also doesn’t love Hana and I don’t think Hana loves Lily. Hana was way too obsessed with filling in the shoes, perpetuating a lie, and living in fear of Lily discovering her lie. Lily was only using Hana as Kaoru’s substitute, since that was Hana’s wish. Very few people love Lily as she is, and the rest make her life incredibly miserable. Morally I want to believe that as long as her life touches at least one persons heart and they love her in return, that should be all she needs to live with her head high. But that’s not what was happening here. Her maid is going to blame herself, but that wasn’t Lily’s intention. None of the people seem to truly know how hard Lily’s existence is except Lily herself. Especially because suicidal people hide it so well. Personally, I think Hana saving Lily while being ignorant to Lily’s feelings is unfair.

Pretty sure the answer is going to be, the relationship our two leads had over the course of the series was more genuine than they realized, and there's a connection between them that clicks from this. The new hand reaching out to help her., originally the brother and now the sister, they're both here for her. Then something or other works out with the marriage, maybe we'll get a time skip.

The series needs to wrap up quickly here and for me as long as there's a happy ending I'm okay with it.

Hmm I wasn’t expecting Lily to be rescued in time. If she loves Kaoru that much, he gave her sunshine in the shade and now he’s gone, I mean what can Hana do to save her from a future she doesn’t want? What about the inevitable arranged marriage? They’d never be able to run away together - someone would catch them (that is, only if the father puts a high value on Lily’s marriage and would go through the trouble of hiring a tracker). Lily also doesn’t love Hana and I don’t think Hana loves Lily. Hana was way too obsessed with filling in the shoes, perpetuating a lie, and living in fear of Lily discovering her lie. Lily was only using Hana as Kaoru’s substitute, since that was Hana’s wish. Very few people love Lily as she is, and the rest make her life incredibly miserable. Morally I want to believe that as long as her life touches at least one persons heart and they love her in return, that should be all she needs to live with her head high. But that’s not what was happening here. Her maid is going to blame herself, but that wasn’t Lily’s intention. None of the people seem to truly know how hard Lily’s existence is except Lily herself. Especially because suicidal people hide it so well. Personally, I think Hana saving Lily while being ignorant to Lily’s feelings is unfair.

Pretty sure the answer is going to be, the relationship our two leads had over the course of the series was more genuine than they realized, and there's a connection between them that clicks from this. The new hand reaching out to help her., originally the brother and now the sister, they're both here for her. Then something or other works out with the marriage, maybe we'll get a time skip.

The series needs to wrap up quickly here and for me as long as there's a happy ending I'm okay with it.

Yeah I think that person is underselling the connections they've built throughout the series, regardless of the circumstances. Their relationship is not as hollow as it's being described. They'll just need time to adjust, which they've not gotten since the reveal and if the ending provides them that time, they can be fine. All that time together wasn't for nothing. As for the arranged marriage, we'll see but I can imagine ways for them to leave together. The sister wants to take her place anyway.

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So the sister was really just waiting there for that long doing fuck all huh.... What a cunt.

I got the impression that Suzu hadn't realised what was going on, considering how surprised she was to see Hana and how cluelessly she acted about the situation. I also don't think she believed that Lily would kill herself, since, in her mind, Lily she was the more fortunate one of the two. She thought that she just wanted to say goodbye to a place she wouldn't be able to visit again and she obviously expected her to be back soon. From her point of view there was no reason to be doing anything other than wait. So, while she might not a very good person, this situation is mostly a testament to how little the two understand each other, rather than Suzu's malicious character.

Thank you for saying this a lot better than I could have, I was hoping someone would the moment I saw that comment. ^_^

crying underwater

crying underwater

If Spongebob could do it...

So the end is finally here
Honestly while there were a lot of plotlines the mangaka probably wanted to explore they still managed to do a good job with the time they had

I love that their disguises are a gender flip in the other way, very fun lol

So the end is finally here
Honestly while there were a lot of plotlines the mangaka probably wanted to explore they still managed to do a good job with the time they had

Yeah I'm pretty satisfied I think.

Probably the best way to end it after all that has happened. Unlike a runaway, no one's going to look for a dead girl, after all. And now they can finally be happy together, having left behind all the grief and regrets and troubles that kept them chained until now. ^_^

Phew,i thought it will be a tragedy
but end in reversal end
and more important, they will bang!

Mugino posted:

Phew,i thought it will be a tragedy
but end in reversal end
and more important, they will bang!

Will they though?

She's right. Despite the circumstances, they built up a meaningful relationship throughout their time together. Now they can continue to progress their relationship without the pressures of her family and situation hovering over them. Most importantly: she's free!

Perfect final page, showing them blushing with each other and promising their future together. Doesn't invalidate the feelings she had for the brother but also cements what she's built and will continue to build with the sister. Good ending.

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I do feel bad if Sasuke wished to write more, I wish they were able to. But overall, it feels like a really good and complete story.

I hope Nekomori isn't too upset either and can be happy on her own. I still don't feel bad for Suzu, though. Terrible till the end. At least she was consistent.

Mugino posted:

Phew,i thought it will be a tragedy
but end in reversal end
and more important, they will bang!

Will they though?

They're going to have sex for 7 days and 7 nights nonstop

So they left Nekomori guessing, but they straight up told it to that old guy? I'm mildly confused about that sequence at the end, and I'm not really sure I understand why wouldn't they just tell her straight up, even before going through that whole charade.

Run away ending is the worst ending.

I think they also dropped a hint for the old guyd and while I feel sad for Nekomori I Think now she can also live for herself a bit , she was locked in that tragic life too while trying to protect Hana. And hey maybe a crazy sister x Nekomori in the future who knows

So they left Nekomori guessing, but they straight up told it to that old guy? I'm mildly confused about that sequence at the end, and I'm not really sure I understand why wouldn't they just tell her straight up, even before going through that whole charade.

Maybe because they thought she might tell the parents, and they wanted time to run away so they only left her with a clue. I agree though, it would have been nice if they told Nekomori, she deserved to know...hell she should have run away with them honestly lol

Run away ending is the worst ending.

Agree to disagree there, I think the run away ending is one of the best routes this could have gone.

So they left Nekomori guessing, but they straight up told it to that old guy? I'm mildly confused about that sequence at the end, and I'm not really sure I understand why wouldn't they just tell her straight up, even before going through that whole charade.

Maybe because they thought she might tell the parents, and they wanted time to run away so they only left her with a clue. I agree though, it would have been nice if they told Nekomori, she deserved to know...hell she should have run away with them honestly lol

It's not all too clear since Nekomori understandably looks like an absolute wreck, but I think her "It can't be" reaction to finding the farewell letter on page 154 is meant to show her realizing they ran away together.

That's the only logical explanation really, bc if Lily had died, there would've been no reason for Hana to return that wet note. so whether Hana left or died together with Lily, the note would be lost either way.

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So they left Nekomori guessing, but they straight up told it to that old guy? I'm mildly confused about that sequence at the end, and I'm not really sure I understand why wouldn't they just tell her straight up, even before going through that whole charade.

Maybe because they thought she might tell the parents, and they wanted time to run away so they only left her with a clue. I agree though, it would have been nice if they told Nekomori, she deserved to know...hell she should have run away with them honestly lol

It's not all too clear since Nekomori understandably looks like an absolute wreck, but I think her "It can't be" reaction to finding the farewell letter on page 154 is meant to show her realizing they ran away together.

That's the only logical explanation really, bc if Lily had died, there would've been no reason for Hana to return that wet note. so whether Hana left or died together with Lily, the note would be lost either way.

Lily and Hana talk about being sure Neko would have realized by now. So they left that as their way of communicating with her. As for why it's not a direct note, they likely don't want the family to find out.

If they sent a more direct message and someone from the family found it they could be exposed. Neko is the only one who would understand the importance of that seemingly innocuous note reappearing. I'm assuming that's part of why they revealed it to her that way.

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So they left Nekomori guessing, but they straight up told it to that old guy? I'm mildly confused about that sequence at the end, and I'm not really sure I understand why wouldn't they just tell her straight up, even before going through that whole charade.

Maybe because they thought she might tell the parents, and they wanted time to run away so they only left her with a clue. I agree though, it would have been nice if they told Nekomori, she deserved to know...hell she should have run away with them honestly lol

It's not all too clear since Nekomori understandably looks like an absolute wreck, but I think her "It can't be" reaction to finding the farewell letter on page 154 is meant to show her realizing they ran away together.

That's the only logical explanation really, bc if Lily had died, there would've been no reason for Hana to return that wet note. so whether Hana left or died together with Lily, the note would be lost either way.

Lily and Hana talk about being sure Neko would have realized by now. So they left that as their way of communicating with her without potentially being found out by the family.

If they sent a more direct message and someone from the family found it they could be exposed. Neko is the only one who would understand the importance of that seemingly innocuous note reappearing. I'm assuming that's part of why they revealed it to her that way.

Yeah their conversation on page 35 (0157) is basically them confirming it for the audience, that Nekomori would understand the intent and hidden meaning of leaving the letter.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/false_marigold_ch15#35

I mean, they could just tell her instead of doing the cryptic notes bullshit? I'm not sure what's the point of being in a hurry like that, it's not like they had to fake that drowning right on the spot, since no one apart from Nekomori and Hana saw the farewell note. And Nekomori seems like the last person that would tell family the truth.

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I mean, they could just tell her instead of doing the cryptic notes bullshit? I'm not sure what's the point of being in a hurry like that, it's not like they had to fake that drowning right on the spot, since no one apart from Nekomori and Hana saw the farewell note. And Nekomori seems like that the last person that would tell family the truth.

It isn't understandable that they'd be in a rush to leave and would rather not put anything to chance, considering the family, impending arranged marriage, sister, and what they've already been through? I don't think that would be unreasonable. Why wouldn't they be in a hurry to create distance between them and that house?

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I mean, they could just tell her instead of doing the cryptic notes bullshit? I'm not sure what's the point of being in a hurry like that, it's not like they had to fake that drowning right on the spot, since no one apart from Nekomori and Hana saw the farewell note. And Nekomori seems like that the last person that would tell family the truth.

It isn't understandable that they'd be in a rush to leave and would rather not put anything to chance, considering the family, impending arranged marriage, sister, and what they've already been through? I don't think that would be unreasonable. Why wouldn't they be in a hurry to create distance between them and that house?

In my opinion, no :P We're literally just talking about meeting Nekomori again once, maybe on the same night while she's still searching the manor and telling her about their plan to elope - they apparently wanted her to know anyway after all, since this is why they left that stupid note.

Hell, Suzu is in on this shit, she could have just told Nekomori. I think there's zero reason not to tell her, but tell it to the old guy (apparently Nekomori's relative)! I would be honestly more worried about accidentally leaking stuff through him.

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Hell, Suzu is in on this shit

Is she, though? All we know is that Lily asked Hana to kill her right in front of Suzu, and there's little reason for her not to believe they didn't take the lovers' suicide way out of this after all they've been through - it would be the proper Japanese way, after all.