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Y5
joined Jul 23, 2020

i guess they won't have a problem choosing whose surname are they gonna use when they got married.

and who has never confessed instead of being a yandere bitch in the first place? she blew her chance.

i love the fact that they first met with the same injury and met again in the end by the same person who injured them.

0ee2c60a-7956-404b-9118-b3d2a41bdeae
joined Dec 7, 2020

Always nice to reread this one. Cute and cool is a deadly combination and both Imari(s) displayed this perfectly. Especially Little Imari, I loved it when she gave Bitch-Ko what for in their confrontation and that she didn’t seem at all fazed by her injuries. Would’ve liked a kiss but their relationship is so concrete that the ending is perfect without it.

Anyway, I hope Rika never gets a happy ending. What an utterly irredeemable character.

joined Jun 19, 2021

Really strong writing in this one, especially in the pacing. I was surprised by how every chapter was tight and focused, had a point to it, and felt like meaningful development. I think Little Imari repeating back the same advice she was given is genuinely very touching, saying in no uncertain terms that she wants to be the person Big Imari needs. 100% worth the read.

Untitled
joined Aug 17, 2020

I'm still skeptical with horoscopes and zodiac signs. But that's fate for you working their butts. I hope Rika gets a spin off on how to improve herself, her character is horrible but I'd like to see her get better. The couple is admirable being able to move forward and accept each other.

20210429_051959
joined May 18, 2021

At first I was like awwww, and then I remembered the abuse tag, and the stairs scene happened, I let out an audible BRUHHHHHHHH

20210429_051959
joined May 18, 2021

I am still in shock got damn

Marion Diabolito
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joined Jan 5, 2015

Rereading this, I think this was a happy ending for Rika, too. She's been unable to move on until the end. She knows she's sending Big Imari to Little Imari, and she's promising not to tell lies again. I doubt she physically abused her Imari, but it's also clear she's the one who got Big Imari fired as an OL, and probably partly by lying.

Subaru
joined Jul 31, 2019

I found this on mangadex first so I couldn't possibly see the tags... and wow did the tone change surprise me (twice), it didn't look like it would go into this direction at all. Ended well enough though.

... but it made me wonder how much the tag system influences what I choose to read. I think I would probably skip that one but it was worth reading. Who knows.

ColdGoldLazarus
Cglishmini
joined Apr 12, 2018

Rereading this, I think this was a happy ending for Rika, too. She's been unable to move on until the end. She knows she's sending Big Imari to Little Imari, and she's promising not to tell lies again. I doubt she physically abused her Imari, but it's also clear she's the one who got Big Imari fired as an OL, and probably partly by lying.

Yeah. Certainly a bittersweet conclusion for her, but I think certainly the healthiest. It's clear at the end that she realized there was something wrong with her behavior and that she was bad for Big Imari, and did something about it. It doesn't make up for the rest, but it shows she wants to change, at least. I think she made a fantastic villain for this story, but the small bit of humanization at the end was an interesting and also welcome choice.

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joined Oct 6, 2014

It's been years but here I am again in this wonderful gem of a story. All the characters are really well written. I love Rika despite what she's done, but Big and Little Imari are also on a league of their own. Always a nice read.

Asakura.tooru.600.3305639
joined Dec 18, 2022

Whoah... this is one hell of a good manga

I really wish it had more chapters.

DR2 Hajime Hinata
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joined Jul 20, 2016

Short and sweet manga is always the best, you can tell a mangaka is good when they can make you feel more than satisfied by the end of it

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

Wow, first time in a while that I've come across a homophobic "psycho lesbian" archetype in the wild like this. I judge the author hard for how two dimensionally awful they wrote Bko. She's a character straight (heh) out of one of those cheap paperback lesbian-sploitation erotic novels from the 1970s. A good wholesome girl gets baited and/or coerced into getting trapped by an evil psycho lesbian and it's saved by a nice wholesome Christian man who's definitely not abusive or controlling, unlike those mean lesbians! This author has of course innovated on this formula by replacing the hero with a legal loli. ...yay, I guess.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Wow, first time in a while that I've come across a homophobic "psycho lesbian" archetype in the wild like this. I judge the author hard for how two dimensionally awful they wrote Bko. She's a character straight (heh) out of one of those cheap paperback lesbian-sploitation erotic novels from the 1970s. A good wholesome girl gets baited and/or coerced into getting trapped by an evil psycho lesbian and it's saved by a nice wholesome Christian man who's definitely not abusive or controlling, unlike those mean lesbians! This author has of course innovated on this formula by replacing the hero with a legal loli. ...yay, I guess.

You are working really hard to twist this into something that it is not. The "psycho lesbian" is a secondary character whose main purpose is to bring into focus Big Imari's insecurities and she is given sufficient characterisation to accomplish this. She is a possessive, jealous abuser who preys upon her love interest's social anxiety, and is a fairly realistic depiction of how such people operate, by isolating and controlling their object of obsession. This is only "homophobic" if you think women are incapable of such things. The work is clearly tagged with Abuse and there is no Het tag, so it should have been obvious that the abuser would be a woman. The author could have added more characterisation to Rika, but to what end? This was not a story about her. For the role she had in this, she was sufficiently fleshed out.

The "good wholesome girl" is a bundle of social anxiety whose first instinct when things get tough is to run away in order not to cause trouble for anyone, and the "nice wholesome Christian man" (the levels of projection are off the charts here) is a messed up woman who resorts to self-harm in order to supress negative feelings. This is a story of two damaged individuals finding love and in the process helping one another with their respective issues. None of it fits into your cartoonish parody of a description. "Legal loli" is also laughable. Small Imari is short and likes cute clothes, which is not a "loli". Neither her face nor her facial expressions are in any way drawn to look more childish in comparison to other characters. Again, you are obviously having some sort of a knee-jerk reaction here and are projecting hard.

"This author has of course innovated on this formula by" not actually doing anything remotely similar to said formula. Your entire premise falls apart when one considers that all three characters here are women, but by all means, let us try to force a square peg into a round hole.

As a side note, the woman Big Imari was in love with in her old company was also somewhat similar to Small Imari, in that she was short and had light hair. Big Imari clearly has a weakness for shorter women~

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

To be clear: this manga isn't necessarily homophobic. Bko's personality is, however, cut and pasted from a classic homophobic stereotype. If you treat this manga as a total vacuum you could just look at her as a particularly bad villain character but like cultural context exists unfortunately. It's hard for me to take her at face value when I've seen her in dozens of shitty old books that I've read for research.
I regret using the term legal loli, it does fit the character (the term is distinct from just "loli," all those defenses you pointed out are the "legal" part) but it feels gross to talk about tbh.

PS: you should probably look into what "projecting" actually means instead of throwing it around so thoughtlessly. >_> I'm pretty used to seeing fandom spaces use psychological terms in inappropriate ways when targeting characters and it's like kind of annoying but I'm not gonna go shake my finger at everyone calling a relationship "codependant" (a term describing people enabling destructive behavior like drug abuse in a loved one in order to keep the person in their life) because the couple relies on each other. But when your target is a person (like me) instead of a character that's a lot harder to wave away. You probably shouldn't use psychological terms at strangers even if the term hypothetically applies, it's just rude and presumptive.

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