Nothing new under the sun here, honestly. The banhammer's handling has always be, as far as I can remember, swift and remorseless: some accounts survive, some don't. That being said, still being able to post after a whopping total of almost 4400 comments on barely a year and half is a sign mods here aren't that unrelenting - not as much as we sometimes like to portray them, at least.

The shadow of the banhammer is never far, however, so post carefully and avoid subversive comments and neverending debates about your favorite yuri. Less risk for people congratulating each other under sweet, angst-less doujin!

Haha, well most of my comments are the short and inoffensive kind, so the 4k is not too crazy. When I was more active and not so appalled by certain individuals here I did get in a lot of longer discussions too, but my greatest offense tends to be going off-topic. Maybe that's why this account still exists.

Ah, the good old echo chamber. What would we do without it? All praise all day keeps all happy, as they say.

Can always try IRC too. I hear it's a real hoppin' place these days.

Yeah, but is it also boppin' though?

Why do so many mods around here have a god complex? Banning people for absolutely nothing? This is getting ridiculous. I would have written a rant, but I don't even have the energy to waste on that.

Honestly the thing that annoys me the most nowadays is the favoritism mods show towards certain members. I think I lost count for how many times certain people have gotten away with breaking rule 1 while others are insta-banned for doing the same thing.

Honestly the thing that annoys me the most nowadays is the favoritism mods show towards certain members. I think I lost count for how many times certain people have gotten away with breaking rule 1 while others are insta-banned for doing the same thing.

Yup. That's the extreme bias. Whether it be favoritism or topics, nothing is equal here. I've seen so many cases of people insulting each other, writing literal hate speech or being absolute pricks, but with absolutely no repercussions.
I have a feeling that a big factor is also how much of an uproar it causes. If someone just writes an inane comment full of hate speech and nobody reacts, mods tend to care less. The moment a single person complains they suddenly jump at it like a blood hound. It seems to be more of a "nuisance" based system rather than actually enforcing the rules.

Of course mods have better things to do than just comb through all threads for offenders, no need to berate them for that. But it does make the harsh punishment for far milder offenses (if any at all) seem disproportionate and unfair.

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Allow me to amend what I said before: having looked through a certain moderator's post history, I actually witnessed some cases of definitely unfair and unwarned ban. Following the overall same trend Western societies seem to be following, it appears the thought police is becoming harsher here too, grounded in what is starting to resemble an ideology. I should have abstained from taking a look at the recent Transgender tag discussion.
When, for all uneducated they might be, politely-worded opinions that differ from your views are ipso facto considered as unorthodox and should therefore be excluded on sight is a sign that intolerance and narrow-mindedness are not so faraway anymore.

Seeing (parts of) this community slowly becoming, over the years, more and more extreme is saddening, especially when, a few years ago, one could read such wise words; which, I believe, still are to this day, one of the most thoughtful and insightful comment this forum has ever borne. Though I have an idea and understand why moderation is siding with a certain view and holding a certain stance - there may be some underlying personal reasons - by no means does it justify arbitrarily banning.

Another reason to stick to my original advice: consensual opinions, as narrow as possible debates and cheering, light-minded comments!

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one could read such wise words;

That part on Futanari thought, i strongly disagree on.

It is a fetish rooted solely in male artists' erasure of female genitals,

3/4 of Futanaris i've read have Futanaris having both genitals. Having only the dick is either Yaoi or Transgender.

Anyone who defends futanari is participating in this erasure and dismissal of female pleasure.

Or i just like Futa ? I can say the same about strapon and dildo or any toys. Honestly, just see Futa as a Girl with a strapon if you're too butthurt to conceive the existence of Futa.

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

If i can't say much on the transgender part because it's very true. I just put my two cents on the Futanari part who only sound like a butthurt Yuri Fan when it see a boy flirting with one of the MC of a Yuri manga. Futanari is a nice subgenre who's goal was never to hurt anyone.

It's just what i had to said about that. If anyone is willing to continue this, we can bring it to the Futanari tag thread.

Lilliwyt posted:

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

Lilliwyt posted:

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

We can bring that to Futanari thread but my opinion on that matter is Futa is not Yuri.

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Lilliwyt posted:

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

We can bring that to Futanari thread but my opinion on that matter is Futa is not Yuri.

It's the same as saying transgender is not yuri. If both identify as a girl, it doesn't matter whatever any has a dick or not. It's yuri.

Lilliwyt posted:

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

We can bring that to Futanari thread but my opinion on that matter is Futa is not Yuri.

It's the same as saying transgender is not yuri. If both identify as a girl, it doesn't matter whatever any has a dick or not. It's yuri.

I agree on the transgender but not on the Futanari. I personnaly always consider Futanari on its own aside from Yuri/Yaoi/Het.

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Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

deep inhale
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YOU WOT M8?

I guess the biggest takeaway in this discussion is that I learned that Cryssoberyl can actually say something agreeable sometimes... only to follow up with another inane rant that completely misses reality. What a shock.

Lilliwyt posted:

Futanari is not yuri.

No shit Sherlock, i never see anyone calling Futanari Yuri

Futanari is yuri.

I tend to agree with Nevri here, even though I'm not sure if it was just said out of spite there haha
In the end what defines a woman as a woman? Transgender aside, I'd say it's having female hormones and genitals/organs. Futanari are 100% women + one extra body part. Treating them like they are not women is like saying someone with 3 arms is not human.
And if two women are in a relationship or have sex that falls under the Yuri category.

I'm going by the academic approach here of course, I do understand why the tags are not used that way. If someone wants to read Yuri they would probably be negatively surprised if one of the girls suddenly has a penis. I don't think you can get away with not tagging a futa doujin with Futanari. But putting the Yuri tag additionally to the Futa tag makes complete sense to me.

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BugDevil posted:

I tend to agree with Nevri here, even though I'm not sure if it was just said out of spite there haha

Nah. I'm actually 100% serious about it. I might dislike futanari as idea, but not considering girl who identifies herself as a girl and likes girl as yuri, just because she happens to have a dick would be pretty hypocritical if we consider transgender as one. Like it or not, but futanari between 2 girls is still yuri. I also do understand why dynasty chose to not to tag futanari works with yuri though.

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pretends to not have participated (albeit briefly) in this particular discussion

I personnaly never seen any hentai site (cause yeah 95% of Futa is H) putting any yuri tag alongside the Futanari one.

Well ultimately I just treat futa like meat dildos so it's fine. Can't really see how it's any better or worse than strap-ons. Though for some doujins the ability to have off-spring certainly is an advantage. Even if these days the "magic yuri pregnancy" trope's getting a lot more popular.

I get why someone like BV would be squeamish about it though.

I personnaly never seen any hentai site (cause yeah 95% of Futa is H) putting any yuri tag alongside the Futanari one.

Mh. Sometimes they do. Depends on the uploader anyway, doesn't it? There are no real rules for those sites. Dynasty is one of those few sites that actually care about having the correctly defined tags on doujins and manga, which leads to these kinds of definition controversies in the first place.

Lilliwyt posted:

I personnaly never seen any hentai site (cause yeah 95% of Futa is H) putting any yuri tag alongside the Futanari one.

Since when porn sites tag their stuff accurately? Seriously though, it's mostly tagged by users and uploaders so you can't really trust them. Some works often misses obvious tags and most hentai sites still tag genuine transgender stories as crossdressing and yaoi, so they're not the most progressive either. So I'm not surprised they wouldn't tag girls with dicks as yuri either. Then again I can also see it being more practical, that (usually) when someone search for yuri, they don't expect to see dicks.

I should have abstained from taking a look at the recent Transgender tag discussion.
When, for all uneducated they might be, politely-worded opinions that differ from your views are ipso facto considered as unorthodox and should therefore be excluded on sight is a sign that intolerance and narrow-mindedness are not so faraway anymore.

I couldn't agree more.

Then again I can also see it being more practical, that (usually) when someone search for yuri, they don't expect to see dicks.

Unless a tag is outright insulting or something usefulness really should be the only criteria.

Point of tags is to best describe content. Everything else is secondary. Tags aren't defining the content they are applied to, merely indexing content to help find it. So futa tag for futa content and yuri tag for lesbian content makes 127% to me since it doesn't insult anyone and accurately allows anyone to find whichever they want (and you can still read the futa-tagged content as a lesbian romance, no problem! It's just a tag!).

I know this topic's pretty uh... unusual/irrelevant for this site, but I think there is a good reason to tag some Futanari stories with Yuri. It's something you'd never come across here of course, but there are quite a few straight futa stories. As in a guy and a futanari. That's just het with an extra appendage.
It's always a very unpleasant surprise and adding the Yuri tag makes clear that they are either both futas or one of them is a normal girl. For convenience I think that just makes sense. Of course on Dynasty we don't run into this situation.

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OK, quick question, relating to 3 yuri manga (and I think you'll find it relatively easy to guess which 3 given the very question):
Why do Yuus always get to be top?

Happy Thanksgiving folks~

Allow me to amend what I said before: having looked through a certain moderator's post history, I actually witnessed some cases of definitely unfair and unwarned ban. Following the overall same trend Western societies seem to be following, it appears the thought police is becoming harsher here too, grounded in what is starting to resemble an ideology. I should have abstained from taking a look at the recent Transgender tag discussion.
When, for all uneducated they might be, politely-worded opinions that differ from your views are ipso facto considered as unorthodox and should therefore be excluded on sight is a sign that intolerance and narrow-mindedness are not so faraway anymore.

Seeing (parts of) this community slowly becoming, over the years, more and more extreme is saddening, especially when, a few years ago, one could read such wise words; which, I believe, still are to this day, one of the most thoughtful and insightful comment this forum has ever beared. Though I have an idea and understand why moderation is siding with a certain view and holding a certain stance - there may be some underlying personal reasons - by no means does it justify arbitrarily banning.

Another reason to stick to my original advice: consensual opinions, as narrow as possible debates and cheering, light-minded comments!

I think what frigidbones (sorely missed, btw) said is germane here:

cis norms become seen as natural to yuri and certainly not political, while outside perspective can be freely treated as those of a political agenda or alien culture.

And the banned member in question wasn't expressing politely-worded opinions. They stormed into a thread about transgender to demand that everyone follow their own, trans-exclusive, definition of lesbian. There's no favoritism in what happened, just someone being a raging asshole and seeing what they can get away with in the field of assholery.

As for those "wise words", they largely consisted of Phallocentrism 101 sandwiched between: putting cis women and cis women's knobbly bits on an unasked-for pedestal; calling trans women fake if they fail to conform to a stereotype of femininity; and drawing a fantasy dichotomy of "transwomen and real women", which makes as much sense as saying "intersexwomen and real women". Oh, and yelling at younger trans people with the temerity to demand -- the horror! -- acceptance.

The world doesn't always bend to accomodate one person's pet theory of what being trans or lesbian means. And as a somewhat-old Gen Xer, I'm glad that views like Cryssoberyl's are becoming less prominent. When held up as the one way to be, they do real harm.

The world doesn't always bend to accomodate one person's pet theory of what being trans or lesbian means. And as a somewhat-old Gen Xer, I'm glad that views like Cryssoberyl's are becoming less prominent. When held up as the one way to be, they do real harm.

Cryssoberyl always has extreme views and talks from a position of absolute arrogance. Flip-flopping between demanding others to bend to their preferences and telling everyone else that reality doesn't give a crap about their preferences.

I think the initial idea was not awfully wrong, but of course it ended up in a mindless tirade that marginalizes people that are different from them. I'm not surprised.

mindless tirade that marginalizes people that are different from them

Why the fuck does this part of that sentence sound familiar.