I have a real unwanted feeling that this will have an outcome similar to that of Aoi Hana (not that it was bad, just didn't like it). The characters are, slightly, going to evolve and end up going their separate ways finding their own happiness. That's my prediction anyway, doubt there will be a 'coupled' ending. Still love this series though.

Why our posts are going double? Yes, we are duality, "two abstract me in her body", but why it must come out here in doubled posts???

Usually it’s because you hit “Create Post” twice, often when the post doesn’t appear to be loading when you click the first time.

Actually, if the play really WAS meta, then Touko would DEFINITELY end up with Sayaka, since she ends up with her in the play as well.

The only ever polyamory ending in normal manga, that I can remember is in Honeymoon Salad. It's really tricky to get that kind of ending right (outside of hentai, that is), and it can undermine the believability of the entire series. I seriously doubt that we well see that here.

Well, Touko will choose Yuu (or she had already chosen her from the very first chapter), but I really like what ifs. Sooo, if not Touko, than how about Sayaka+Akari? They can heal each other's broken heart...

Tbh, i’m kinda confused w/ the rest of the comments. Sorry.

Anyway, Sayaka & Miyako? Lol. No.

As reader, I prefer Miyako as a mentor for her, to guide her. Besides, no sign of Riko-sensei regretting her choice being with Miyako. Hell, she can spend her life “testing out” their relationship all her life, until they get old and their hair turns to gray. Lol.

If I could imagine story about Sayaka, I kinda want that “someone” from Sayaka’s past to return. No not the senpai. That someone before her senpai.

And above post: Sayaka & Akari? Akari definitely straight imo. She probably end up w/ Doujima-kun, well from the looks of it...

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Actually, if the play really WAS meta, then Touko would DEFINITELY end up with Sayaka, since she ends up with her in the play as well.

She does? I thought she ended up on her own, going on to figure out her life.

I like where this things are going, both competitor have enough background/reason to love Touko.
I just hope that this series don't last for too much chapters, like, say, citrus. Fucking cancer

For crying out loud, people pretend they see the deeper meaning of imagery, but then interpret the superficial idea of "suicidal" into it... That would be the obvious metaphor rather than the deep one and thus wrong.
It's like when people see the tarot card Death XIII and think it means literally death. It's about a new journey.

You're right I guess… rather than "arrogant" I should have said "disrespectful", in that it shows a lack of trust in people she knows. That's also what Sayaka means by "Don't look down on me."

Yeah I can definitely see that.

PS: Just saw that ridiculous new polyamory suggestion. Come on, just pairing up characters for the sake of having them paired up is terrible writing and not something Nakatani would do. There is sooo much wrong with thinking wedging Sayaka into the adult pair makes any sense.

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Actually, if the play really WAS meta, then Touko would DEFINITELY end up with Sayaka, since she ends up with her in the play as well.

She does? I thought she ended up on her own, going on to figure out her life.

In Chapter 31:
Touko: "So... Would you go out with me, all over again?"
...
Sayaka: "I can see myself, falling in love with you all over again"

I can't believe everyone forgot how the play ended. She only denied to move in with her, because she wants to try and reconnect with her family, they still got together in the revised ending too.

She does? I thought she ended up on her own, going on to figure out her life.

In Chapter 31:
Touko: "So... Would you go out with me, all over again?"
...
Sayaka: "I can see myself, falling in love with you all over again"

I can't believe everyone forgot how the play ended. She only denied to move in with her, because she wants to try and reconnect with her family, they still got together in the revised ending too.

Exactly. The play's focus was not on changing her relationships, it was about figuring out who she would BE. The bonds didn't disappear just because they were lost temporarily.

That was a much more philosophycal answer than I expected...

Some may also call it esoteric nonsense or a phase. You're a nice guy BV.

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In Chapter 31:
Touko: "So... Would you go out with me, all over again?"
...
Sayaka: "I can see myself, falling in love with you all over again"

I can't believe everyone forgot how the play ended. She only denied to move in with her, because she wants to try and reconnect with her family, they still got together in the revised ending too.

Haha well, these chapters take too long to be released, and life is busy...It baffles me some people here seem to remember minute details about the story.

I must say I do think the play is already showing the whole story, so I think it will end with a dialogue similar to this one. Now the question is whether Yuu is simultaneously the girlfriend and the nurse (most likely since it's about falling in love with the same person on different terms), or whether Sayaka was the girlfriend all along. I like original endings, so I'd bet on the former but would love for it to be the latter even if it's bittersweet for Yuu.

Haha well, these chapters take too long to be released, and life is busy...It baffles me some people here seem to remember minute details about the story.

I must say I do think the play is already showing the whole story, so I think it will end with a dialogue similar to this one. Now the question is whether Yuu is simultaneously the girlfriend and the nurse (most likely since it's about falling in love with the same person on different terms), or whether Sayaka was the girlfriend all along. I like original endings, so I'd bet on the former but would love for it to be the latter even if it's bittersweet for Yuu.

It baffles me that someone would make claims on plot points they don't remember lol

That's not it. The play is a mirror to Touko's situation only in the sense of her personalities. It's not representative of the entire story. Yuu/The nurse represents seeing the value of the current her and nothing else. Sayaka/The girlfriend represents the one who recognizes her for her vulnerable and needy side, but ignores the other aspects.

If anything after mindlessly applying that to the real situation, Yuu is the girlfriend and picking the original ending would have assured Yuu got happy. Instead she chooses to change the ending to save Touko from herself and let her be the person she already is, rather than forcing her to be just that vulnerable needy person. Sayaka doesn't even factor into the equation at all. Hence why we cant mindlessly apply the play to the overall story.

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Uwaah...

Who called you to interfere and judge, "bug devil"?
Suppose you are one of those smartses who always know better than any person about themselves.

Mind your own businesses and don't express any opinions in names of someone else, and don't throw your worthless judgments into the air, judgments made up from prejudices, which are proving how much valuable yours "arguments "are, and how judgmental you are .

We did not call for desinsection yet, but it's true that every site has some bugs.
Some of them just mosquito levels. That's the damage and ability which they can cause.
So fly away from our sight.

Fine fine, whatever you say, you beautiful intellectual butterfly you.
My reply was only for BV and that's the end of this conversation~

Actually, her opening up to Yuu is surprising, but still, she limited their relationship setting up conditions which are in her comfort zone. Outside of it, she is letting go.

I think that's backwards... Touko is actually pretty self aware, and I think she really believed Yuu "fit" in her comfort zone.

To a point I don't disagree with the play meta but in more of an internal sense... and right now Touko is in a position where she would have to be someone else to "fit" with Yuu 2.0.

Lol https://mangadex.org/chapter/513032/1

For Touko x Sayaka shippers.

You ended yours, we'll end ours when we finish, you're not our commander.
You are speaking a nonsense, because you were speaking about our answer to BV, what is interfering without being called to interfere. It shows how rude you are.
And it's toxic behavior.
If you are frustrated with your own life, don't pour your bitterness out on someone else.
We are not your boxing bag. And you will not make us swallow your sh*ts.
So find someone who is equal to you, in your rank. We are other category, and don't bother to find which.

lmao

Lol https://mangadex.org/chapter/513032/1

For Touko x Sayaka shippers.

Classic Canno. Seeing Touko in that artstyle is making my head ache tho (it surprisingly fits Sayaka however) lol

oh please.

PS: Just saw that ridiculous new polyamory suggestion. Come on, just pairing up characters for the sake of having them paired up is terrible writing and not something Nakatani would do. There is sooo much wrong with thinking wedging Sayaka into the adult pair makes any sense.

Having some problems with polyamory? It's your problem, not of anyone else, we don't care for your complexes.

Btw, it was not about pairing Sayaka with an adult pair. Many people would like to see Yuu x Touko x Sayaka ending.

What is the problem here? Anyone has a right to ship their own preferences. Silly is making fuss and calling something ridiculous just because it's different of your own preference.
No one is giving you right to spit around on anything what is different from you and yours.
You are not higher than anyone else here who is expressing their opinions. Learn to behave, vanity princess. Your self-made "crown" worths nothing. Your opinions are just as equal as of anyone else, you are not "highness" as you want to believe, in nonsense, obviously.

Ok, now you are just trying to pick a fight. Jeez.
To make it short, someone actually did suggest that Sayaka should get involved with Miyako and Hakozaki-sensei. Have fun reading the last page again.

Blah blah blah. I have no interest in your hypocrisy or your special snowflake needs. Stay on topic or be ignored. rolls eyes

Lol https://mangadex.org/chapter/513032/1

For Touko x Sayaka shippers.

Nice to see that someone is translating the anthology, I was worried I was going to have to wait until someone published it in English. Still going to buy it if/when it comes out though.

ironwolf69 posted:

Lol https://mangadex.org/chapter/513032/1

For Touko x Sayaka shippers.

Nice to see that someone is translating the anthology, I was worried I was going to have to wait until someone published it in English. Still going to buy it if/when it comes out though.

That Lyendith, the translator of Ano Kiss, would translate this, is a given.

I have a real unwanted feeling that this will have an outcome similar to that of Aoi Hana (not that it was bad, just didn't like it). The characters are, slightly, going to evolve and end up going their separate ways finding their own happiness. That's my prediction anyway, doubt there will be a 'coupled' ending. Still love this series though.

You need to finish reading Aoi Hana.

Ha ha ha, little bug, nice try. This is all on topic what we are writing (except our answer to you when you interfered .

Our personal preferences are Sayaka x Yuu ( if polyamory option fails).
Or Sayaka Miyako. That's something what we already explained

But, we recognize your smug style, so we will not waste our time to be "bugged" with you anymore. We already blocked you on the other site and expected to meet you here as well, knowing that you already have prepared "pawns" here, knowing us for years and where we'll go, in advance.
And attacking us TWICE was not a coincidence (first time about polyamory, second time spitting on our answer to other person)
So, smug, from now on, we ignore you. Fight with air.

What the heck just happened?

At least it's over I guess.

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But if it is as you say, why should she set up limits? And if Touko is self aware, she would not want to become her sister. She is aware of own weakness, or vulnerability, but not of herself.
Reason for it is fear of losing someone dear (on which she has no control), so her all choices are connected with things which she can control, or set up limits. That's her comfort zone.

She knows she didn't like who she was before. But that's tangential, I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that she's "controlling" because as far as anyone else is concerned she's mainly focused on keeping up her "perfect" act to the point of hurting herself and probably further.

And... if you don't want to call it self-awareness I guess that's your prerogative but Touko can be up front about her limits because I'm pretty sure she knows her limits. Maybe its easier to be sympathetic to Yuu here, but in that sense I don't think she was boxing in Yuu or telling her what to be to her as much as she was telling Yuu what she can't be. And part of my point is that now Yuu has pretty much asked her to be something that she can't be.

That's not to fault Yuu but its easy to be dismissive of or critical of Touko right now and I think that's misguided.

What the heck just happened?

I have the exact same question...

Same. The heck.

Omg, that Touko and Sayaka Manga though!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️