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This is certainly a thread. One that probably needs both sides to calm down and stop making some particularly outlandish claims.

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lol I'm talking about child porn alone here. Sorry I'm not accepting of this illegal content as ya'll.

Just on a personal note, I'm fine with you being against loli stuff, but I do wish you'd stop calling it child porn in a way that conflates it with actual photos/videos of child sexual abuse.

A lot of people conflate them under the same term in a deliberately obfuscating fashion, and doing so erases precisely what makes photos/videos of child sexual abuse so bad: The abuse having happened to make that stuff, that there is a victim created in the process who not only has to deal with the trauma in a world that doesn't really care about the victims, that victims have to live with the knowledge that not only may this stuff be out there long after their abuse ends but could even outlive them, and that the person who made this stuff very likely can and will abuse again.

Loli art doesn't do any of those things. So even if you think it's bad and should be illegal or whatever, it's super shitty to conflate it with actual abuse stuff.

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

The reason why people enjoy playing violent videogames like GTA is because they're not actually hurting anybody, they're just enjoying an unrealistic power fantasy.

But this manga shows a realistic depiction of pedophilia. If you enjoy reading this kind of stuff, or, God forbid, if you we're aroused by this, how are you not a pedophile?

Because it’s not actually hurting anybody?
GTA is far more realistic than this, never seen a catgirl loli in my daily life but I’m pretty sure I hear every day a story about gang warfare and cops shooting unarmed men.

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

Man.. this is wrong. Luckly its a fiction, but this only show us how many people with pedo feels do exist in this world... and they're not only disgusting guys, but a lot, a looooot of "good" people ._.

lol I'm talking about child porn alone here. Sorry I'm not accepting of this illegal content as ya'll.

Just on a personal note, I'm fine with you being against loli stuff, but I do wish you'd stop calling it child porn in a way that conflates it with actual photos/videos of child sexual abuse.

A lot of people conflate them under the same term in a deliberately obfuscating fashion, and doing so erases precisely what makes photos/videos of child sexual abuse so bad: The abuse having happened to make that stuff, that there is a victim created in the process who not only has to deal with the trauma in a world that doesn't really care about the victims, that victims have to live with the knowledge that not only may this stuff be out there long after their abuse ends but could even outlive them, and that the person who made this stuff very likely can and will abuse again.

Loli art doesn't do any of those things. So even if you think it's bad and should be illegal or whatever, it's super shitty to conflate it with actual abuse stuff.

The actual victims don’t matter, someone finds it gross so their plight is only leverage to use against that thing. You don’t get to be a person anymore and the distinction of what you went through and things others find gross doesn’t matter. If you were killed in the Columbine massacre you’re a name to ban DOOM now, fuck even going after actual gun violence or child molesters it’s enough to use the victims to fight cartoons and games, were all making a difference by getting rid of unrelated shit we don’t like!

boy here it comes xDD fictions are fiction. I love killing people in GTA. Does that make me a killer now?

a better example of this, i personally fap gets attracted to traps, but when i look to a real life trap, i just helplessly cringe hard. nowadays ppl fap to a lot of different things, slime girls, monster girls, insect girls and tentacles..etc it's not like people who watch Uma Musume faps to horses right? or do they

I actually think loli porn can actually, rather than encouraging, it can prevent some real life pedophiles from commiting their crimes and only sticking to fictional lolis and pillows, since you know, most people think that anime is cuter than real life. though that might not always be the case, pedos will stay pedos, but i'm talking about self-restraint pedophiles, anime loli might actually help them, cuz you know, anime have this weird power of rising fetishes you never thought of into you. i know many people for an example, who are only lesbians when it comes to anime, but in real life, they are totally straight. cuz they think anime girls are so much cuter and so forth.

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Itou Hachi and Mira are authors you have to read without much thought. If you take it seriously, you lose.

Man, is this what kids learn in school these days? Why not use your critical thinking skills on something productive instead of deconstructing hentai doujinshi.

Wow. This must be the most active Dynasty thread in ages. I don't even need to read them to taste all the tears.

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

Look, I'm not gonna go all preaching about this with you about why child porn is wrong or whatever. Just understand that lots of us consider this kind of content to be wrong and will get quite vocal about it. However, I do recognize that the whole "GTA let's me kill people but I'm no killer" argument has some solid evidence in its favor, and it could very well translate into this kind of conversation.

Just....Please dudes, gals, non binary duderinos, do not touch children in real life. Sounds like a dumb thing to write, but we live in a time when we have to remind people that attacking people because they are different is wrong, so I'm just elevating this plea

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Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

Listen, I'm really, really sorry about what happened to you, nobody deserves it. The guy that did that to you is sick and deserves to be in prison. But, even though it's harsh, a pedophile can't feel anything romantic towards a child. That's why this whole thing is wrong. It's not how reality actually is, child abuse can't be romantic in any way. I'm just so, so sorry I don't know what else to tell you, since I don't know how it must feel to be abused. But that's the reality, a sane adult can't really fall in love with a child.
I spent like 15 minutes thinking if I should send this, since I know it must be a really complicated topic for you. But it had to be said.

anime is an antipedo scheme to turn all of the pedophiles into celibates by making real girls and boys look disgusting in comparison

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This is certainly a thread. One that probably needs both sides to calm down and stop making some particularly outlandish claims.

If only there were a way to tell if there was content you categorically dislike in a work without actually reading it.
But alas, now I must go into the KISS forum and tell everyone how much better Aerosmith is than these posers.

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

Dude wait, this person was a victim of child sexual abuse, please be as nice as you can.

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

What’s the magical age at which a fictional girl can consent in a fictional world with different rules to ours? Do we have to wait for 16 years after the ink dries to read this?

Nah man. This is porn that depicts a child having sex with an older woman. By its very definition is child porn. Sorry you don't like your porn called by what it is

Then you're just admitting you care more about your rhetoric than the actual victims of child sexual abuse. Which is unfortunate, but pretty normal.

I'm gonna bow out. I tried to be as straightforward and reasonable about things as I could so people could maybe understand my perspective but that takes a toll and doesn't have much of a payoff so I need a break. Have fun, everyone.

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

Dude wait, this person was a victim of child sexual abuse, please be as nice as you can.

Oh shit, I didn't read that part. Sorry about that, I didn't wanted to be that insensitive. Fuck, I'm a dick, sorry about being such a jerk

Alright... I just can´t. This is too much... I cannot enjoy this...

why not? this ist so Beautiful

Ahh yes definitely. A child having sex with with a grown woman is just beautiful

MarqFJA87 posted:

Is it just me, or are page 4 and page 5 supposed to be switched around in chronological order?

I share the same opinion can someone verify?

llenovo posted:

But this manga shows a realistic depiction of pedophilia. If you enjoy reading this kind of stuff, or, God forbid, if you we're aroused by this, how are you not a pedophile?

You're an idiot for inserting 3D (real life) morality into 2D (fictional works). Most people can distinguish between 2D and 3D. Unless you truly believe many people in Japan are pedophiles and poor kids there get sexually exploited everyday (which is clearly not true). Please never post in any series that have a lolicon tag thanks.

Yeesh. OK, as it was ignored before, I guess I'll say it again.

Some of y'all are going way too far with this, and saying some bad shit. Please stop, or at the very least, calm it way the fuck down.

Straight up telling people they're pedos, or that they're wrong for not being ok with lolicon, both of these are bad shit. Let's roll it back a bit, OK? Don't want to have to go full out with the moderation.

dpf has spoken shut it down guys

"I'm going to Jail!"

Holy crap, this is the first time I see a forum fill up so fast

Holy crap, this is the first time I see a forum fill up so fast

As they say, indolence is the sepulchre of virtue.

Man, if I wanted a debate on pedophilia, I wouldn't be on Dynasty.

I enjoy lurking and so I never bothered creating an account until now because holy fuck why did this get so toxic? I don't envy your job trying to keep the peace drpepperfan, people need to chill it's just about fictional manga characters.