everyone is triggerred because of the new chapter. who wouldn't? almost everyone expected Mei to value Yuzu more than anything. Yuzu fought so hard for her without minding the consequences. I thought this would be the arc that Mei is going to show how much she love Yuzu but it was the other way again. Yuzu was the one who got hurt and yet she's still the one who needs to make things right. right now, I really want to see Mei beg and cry to Yuzu, for her to come back to her until her eyes bleed.

what pisses me off is that Mei let Yuzu to deeply fall in love with her even though she has no intention to return those feelings because of her ambition. Matsuri is everyone of us right now.

Yes. Its time for Mei to move ass and show some love for Yuzu. Matsuri will have role in all of this for sure. That conversation with Nene was not accidental.

1. you're right. what mei did to yuzu making her fall more and more for her wasn't wise. I can't argue with that,she is still a human who makes mistakes after all.but still calling her weak because of this means that all of us here are weak because every human make these kind of mistakes at some point in their life.and i doubt telling her that she has an arranged marriage would change much. just think about it..

2.i think you kind of misunderstood me here,what i implied is that someone must take the responsibility before falling hard in love and know the consequences. it is not just about lesbian love it is the same with hetero love,if you think that love is just a lust or some sort of game or enjoyment and if you can't bear the burden of society pressure or the burden of becoming a father or working and spending money on your woman and children then don't bother. children with no parents is already considered a world top issue.don't just if you didn't have your way(and i doubt you will easily have your way) be all like "Yes i regret it,I Will Just Suicide" or "I ll just give up and become depressed".

3.nope,it is mature. i'm not talking about giving up or winning here,we're not having a sexual preference war. but you must realize that the society will never change no matter what you pull and will always look down upon these kind of relationships, but one must be patient and endure it that's what i meant by accepting the society,it is like ITS ACTUALLY NORMAL for a society to think like this,that's how societies been and that's how they will always be,if human societies didn't think this way then welcome to a world where people would be having sex in the streets with their parents and pets its like lol i leave it to your imagination.. it is immature to bash the society or hate on every person who look down on you(if you hate on them or look down on them then you are just the same as them), you will never have rest .you need to learn to live cool with it ,believe me, being endurant is the key(please don't misunderstand me I dont mean to throw away your pride or to not stand for yourself).

4.well despite how ever it will end i hope it will be a satisfying ending and not a rushed one.

I still have a lot to talk but i'm not here to argue with anyone or to act intelligent,i'm just sharing my opinion with everyone so they can consider and think whatever more suitable for them.

1. Well, I agree she is a 15 year old girl after all. So she still has a lot to learn. And nobody's perfect. Still, telling someone in person is a prove of respect. it wouldn't change much, but it's about respect.

2. well, okay. I can see what you mean.

3. neither am I about to go into a sexual preference war. All I wanted to say is that open mindedness and thinking for yourself is important. Because if there were no open mided people we could still have slavery, witch burnings, etc. These are also things that society considered normal at some point.
   Also there is a great deal of things humans wouldn't do if it was allowed, because it is just more thrilling to do it when it's forbidden and exciting. It's just human nature. And it's not just society that upholds the moral standards. Well, neither of us has any prove that their version of the alternate reality is correct, so we might as well agree to disagree.

I'm also not here to get into great discussions. Sometimes I get carried away. And I wanted to know what your point was, because I didn't understand. Thanks for clarifying.

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Proofs :

• the author never talked about the ending and the final in the chapter's promotion. Kodama did (NTR's author).
• no "to be continued", but no "fin" either
• the anime is airing, its purpose is to increase the manga's sells, the manga needs to continue during the anime
• a final chapter is always announced in the previous issue of YH with the word "climax": クライマツクス, it was the case for NTR, and other series which ended last year when they were listed on the preview page
• a final chapter is always listed as a climax in the issue where it is published on the final cover of the magazine. Citrus is listed on the ongoing series.
• the author promised happy ending in the last 4 volumes in the afterwords
• Yuri Hime policy: the most popular series and a series that help to sell the magazine would end so badly without any notice? -Volume 9 promotion incoming with a bonus card showing the OTP in a wedding dress ... to buy a volume ending the manga on the exact opposite note?
• another chapter was announced for March but has been put on hiatus since the volume 9 is released. Yuri Hime made an announcement, only to precise that the chapter was on break for Yuri hime n°5 (in March), not forever.

And more narrative reasons :
- We didn't see one of the MC. A series ending without seeing Mei...
- We didn't have any dialogues and speeches from the cast except Yuzu and Ume ... Will a manga end obliterating all their characters?
- too many loose ends. the father? the grandfather?

I think the lack of to be continued is a stylistic editorial choice. It's Mei's letter, hence Mei's words who is the narrator. On the graphics level, a to be continued would have ruined the impact of the "goodbye", visually but also on the meaning in Mei's mind. This goodbye is final for her.

You, YOU deserve a cookie, a big one!

Looks like people don't pay attention to details anymore

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I thought there will be more closure in regards to their relationship post time skip. Either SU wanted to keep us on suspense or they're just lazy.
And I just found out that SU is a straight, married woman too. No wonder she's really bad at handling the characters.

Not all yuri artists have to be lesbians or bisexuals, tho a lot are, well some of the best.

I know, right!

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with the someone's writing ability. Of course in some case we can see some patterns, like when straight guys write Yuri, but that's not a general rule, anyway...

Everything will be DIEDjobu.

Ah, I expected a cesspool of commentary and I wasn't disappointed, lol...

Frankly I think this is a wise move on the author's part. The story in general tends to be very "yank in one direction, yank in another immediately after". This sort of permits the Citrus universe to have settled and allows the author some time to perhaps do a "6 months ago...." chapter later on if it's actually integral to the story.

Personally I'm sort of on the "Citrus is trash but it's YURI trash so I'm gonna read it anyway" train, but I'm not complaining because it's because of stories like this that yuri is gradually gaining more ground in the industry which can only lead to good things for the genre in my opinion.

As for Mei... well, "GODDAMMIT MEI" is as fitting as always. I'd like to think that she's throwing herself into an arranged marriage with a man who seems like he may ultimately understand a need to either stop or end the marriage because she's not really into it (like it seems he won't really be). Hopefully it can be done where it's a decision Mei makes on her own and not one that she is seemingly pushed to by her fiance/husband/whatever because goddammit Mei needs to make up her own mind.

Im not triggered or anything about. Sure its sad, but come on everyone let be real for a minute. If this was a Slice of Life more than anyhing. She was already engaged when it first started, but then she had to get engaged to a someone else. Not every highschool yuri manga is supposed to be a happy fairytale. Grant it though, the ending is supposed to be a Happy Ending, but that can be with the characters all living a happy life and enjoying it to the fullest. Whether theyre together or not.

Im not triggered or anything about. Sure its sad, but come on everyone let be real for a minute. If this was a Slice of Life more than anyhing. She was already engaged when it first started, but then she had to get engaged to a someone else. Not every highschool yuri manga is supposed to be a happy fairytale. Grant it though, the ending is supposed to be a Happy Ending, but that can be with the characters all living a happy life and enjoying it to the fullest. Whether theyre together or not.

There is a difference between a melodramatic story and sad story that actually makes sense. This is a melodramatic story where the plot points are never actually explained. Not once does it explain why Mei getting married has anything to do with becoming headmistress and yet all these drama revolves around that absent connection.

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There is a difference between a melodramatic story and sad story that actually makes sense. This is a melodramatic story where the plot points are never actually explained. Not once does it explain why Mei getting married has anything to do with becoming headmistress and yet all these drama revolves around that absent connection.

Well one COULD say "it's because clearly her family (with the exception of her father) is very strictly traditional, so the marriage is expected in order to carry on the family lineage so no real explanation feels needed", but to say that you also have to accept that somehow Mei has managed cognitive dissonance with the arranged marriage situation along with her romantic relationship with Yuzu up to this point, so who knows what the author is actually thinking at this point.

I think it probably has been mentioned already, but more than a person that run away from her feelings and insecurities, Mei is essentially hating herself. I've started to think about it since I read this fanfiction of Mei's pov on reddit, but it makes sense. Hating yourself is some kind of haven where if you fail, it's okay since you weren't going to succeed in the first place.

And what's more frightening than a person that loves you? Someone that can make you see yourself in a better light, that can give you confidence and make you feel more hopeful? Because when everything is going to fail, and it will, you'll only fall from a higher place and it'll hurt even more.

So in order to avoid this, Mei takes shelter in the "good girl" role : since she is doing everything that is expected of her, it's a good thing, right? Since she will hurt Yuzu if she stays with her, it's best to remove herself from her step-sister's life? It's all for the best, it's fine if Mei suffers a bit because of it, since it's all for the good of the family and for Yuzu's sake, who will get over it eventually, because Mei wasn't worth it, in the end; should she go back to Yuzu, she will just make her suffer more. What's better than sacrificing a bit of yourself for the greater good?

That's one take on the whole story, Mei hates herself more than she loves Yuzu, probably? I can get why people hate/dislike her then : self-loathing people can be a pain to deal with, even more so if you love them. Now Mei needs to learn to love herself so she can find Yuzu again, I guess. I don't know how that will happen, though, since Yuzu was probably her best chance...

Too bad Yuzu isn't in the theatre club...

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I know there are going to be extras (like the rest of the volumes) but I don't see a To-Be-Continued anywhere - please give me proof this will continue please?

It would continue, this is not the end of Citrus yet. Yuri-Hime confirmed that there would be no chapter next month though, so we will get the new chapter in April.

Thanks for the update.

I am going to fling myself into the sun.

D:

Well one COULD say "it's because clearly her family (with the exception of her father) is very strictly traditional, so the marriage is expected in order to carry on the family lineage so no real explanation feels needed", but to say that you also have to accept that somehow Mei has managed cognitive dissonance with the arranged marriage situation along with her romantic relationship with Yuzu up to this point

Except, again, those two are not connected. Continuing her family lineage has absolutely nothing to do with becoming headmistress. It's two completely separate issues.

so who knows what the author is actually thinking at this point.

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Except, again, those two are not connected. Continuing her family lineage has absolutely nothing to do with becoming headmistress. It's two completely separate issues.

But they are, the school IS the family business/heritage. Just like for any children of a rich CEO from a big company, continuing the family "lineage" clearly means continuing the family business and inheriting the company; so the family can continue to prosper and have money thanks to it, one of the children has to take over.

For the family to keep its status and prestige, one of its member must be at the head of the school. Since her father doesn't want to do it, if Mei wants her family to keep all its advantages, heritage and prestige, she has to become headmistress. Or her future husband could if he's adopted, but he still has to be part of the family, so marriage..

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But they are, the school IS the family business/heritage. Just like for any children of a rich CEO from a big company, continuing the family "lineage" clearly means continuing the family business and inheriting the company; so the family can continue to prosper and have money thanks to it, one of the children has to take over.

So if Mei isn't married gramps is going to sell the school to someone else? No, none of that makes a damn lick of sense. She can continue the business without having to pump out kids of her own. Mei having kids has to do with who she will pass it down to, not about it being passed down to her.

For the family to keep its status and prestige, one of its member must be at the head of the school. Since her father doesn't want to do it, if Mei wants her family to keep all its advantages, heritage and prestige, she has to become headmistress. Or her future husband could if he's adopted, but he still has to be part of the family, so marriage..

Mei is the only family member left. It wouldnt be about family status and prestige, and will be her status and prestige. She would become headmistress no matter her marital status. Getting married has absolutely nothing to do with Mei becoming headmistress.

From a Western standpoint, perhaps. From a traditional Japanese standpoint, which, to this point seems to be VERY what Mei subscribes to, marriage and subsequent children absolutely has something to do with becoming headmistress and continuing the Aihara line. BUT, like you have have said, the author has not touched on that at all and has seemingly relied on the standard "Japanese subtlety/goes without saying" thing.

No, if it was about being traditional then Mei would never become headmaster simply because she is a woman. Her husband would become headmaster instead. She would have to dedicate herself to raising her children like a traditional Japanese housewife.

Again, her having children has to do with who she will pass it down to, not it being passed down to her first. They are separate issues.

Okay, please. Stop. This is getting too embarrassing to read, to the point where I think you're trying to kill me with sheer cringe.

I'm being cringey? Here I thought I was being mature..

shadesofgreymoon posted:

I'm being cringey? Here I thought I was being mature..

I thought what you said made sense, nez is probably talking about Cannibal not being able (probably never) to admit that there's more than one possibility and that his/her limited knowledge about culture, homosexuality, feelings and any other subject can be wrong ever, all the arguments are "What I say is the truth, I know because that's what I think, so how can you think different?" there's no space for discussion, so is useless to reply.

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Okay, please. Stop. This is getting too embarrassing to read, to the point where I think you're trying to kill me with sheer cringe.

I've actually seen worse in one of the forums in here and yeah even I are also cringing with my post. I mean the chapter is still fresh to everyone's mind. the rage posting just shows how frustrated and disappointed everyone is with chapter 36.

I actually feel like Sabuoro Uta intentionally skip a month to published the next chapter because the next chapter will probably be much worse than chapter 36. the Citrus anime would be over before April. so SB still has plenty of time for chapter 37 and see if the manga will have an effect on the BD sales of Citrus.

now, I don't know if I want to praise SB for having the balls for stirring sh*t up to make the story interesting again without adding too much nonsensical plot even with the anime still running or I want to give her a big smack in the head because I'm pretty sure this chapter will cause a lot of reader to (temporarily) rage quit the manga and possibly the anime after reading the new chapter.

but I'm glad to see that this new development in the story even though it's heartbreaking, shows how much the readers are still invested on this manga. I still have faith on Sabuoro Uta so I hope that despite whatever everyone says, she will continue Citrus, the way she intended the story to unfold.

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So, the time skip is 6-8 months but Yuzu still cried like it was just yesterday. everyone has this worried expression on their face while lookimg at Yuzu. I don't want Yuzu to turn into a more darker character but this turn of events will greatly change her view about love. I can't wait to see how much Yuzu change and see how will Mei react to this new Yuzu.

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What exactly makes people think that this is the end? It's brutal, but it was fairly obvious that it was coming. The fact that Mei chose to do it via letter is a bit harsh. (Kind of like breaking up via text message.) But it was clear that she was going to move forward with the arranged marriage and that she was being torn apart by all of the feelings she has for Yuzu.

Funny and sad how this songs remind of what happened https://genius.com/Chaos-chaos-do-you-feel-it-lyrics (if you read the song description there it fits even more) and it even reminds of that episode of R&M... yeah, but hey ignore the reference, the song is good but if you read the chapter 36 with this as background is really heart breaking

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