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Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

Uh... Can I just say
Mei can legally say no and maybe I don't know talk to Yuzu

Yeah, because gay teens are so welcomed in Japan, right?

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Edit : i cannot imagine Mei taking the school as it is and maintaining the toxic rules there (toxic from an individualistic point of you), with all these girls attending it to be perfect heir to their family and being engaged in marriage without love. And at the same time, being with Yuzu. Or, the only way for her to be the school headmistress and living with Yuzu would be to revolution the school. I wonder if it's possible in regard to Japanese social conventions even in a fictional world.

Depends what you mean by "living with Yuzu". If you mean they live together, but keep the nature of their relationship a secret, then yes, it could work.
Although, in that case, I imagine any innovations in how the school operates would be born out of Yuzu's influence, rather than Mei herself. When you come down to it, Mei is not really presented as all that welcoming to new things, especially if said things go against the established order. I think the differences in classes go deeper than mere disparity in wealth, people are the way they are (regardless if we talk about higher or lower classes) in large part due to their environment. Their families, upbringing, education, ideas they are exposed to and taught about, etc.. It is the same reason behind rural populations being stereotypically more conservative than urban ones, and such. People who break free from this (like Mei's father) are still mostly exceptions. I do not think Mei will suddenly become a revolutionary just because her girlfriend is one. Being a perfect heiress is something Mei genuinely aspires to, I doubt she would go as far as try to dismantle that notion.
Besides, if she did implement such changes, my guess is the upper class parents would just stop sending their daughters to the Aihara academy, so it is not like she could actually be successful in this.

If, however, you mean they actually openly display their relationship, then the answer is simple, no, that would not be possible. Dating your own step-sibling is generally heavily frowned upon even if it is a heterosexual relationship, and not just by the upper classes. Many equate it to actual incest. Being a lesbian, dating your own step-sister, and being at the head of a prestigious upper class academy for girls? That would literally be a death sentence for the school, their enrolment would plummet to zero in a heartbeat. Even in the western world, such a thing would be heavily frowned upon (regardless of the progress of liberalism, because we are talking about upper classes, and upper classes in general tend to side more with conservative lines of thinking), but in Japan? There would probably not be a single family who would send their daughter there. At the end of the day, parents have the right to send their children to any school they choose, you can not force them to pick this specific one.

As for Yuzu, regarding keeping their relationship secret. Some here have said how Yuzu would never consent to be Mei's mistress (in the scenario where Mei goes through with the marriage, but keeps it as a mere formality), and I agree with this, I can not imagine Yuzu ever doing so. But what about Mei just remaining unmarried and keeping her lesbian relationship a secret? How probable do you see this to be, from the perspective of Yuzu going along with it?
I mean, on the one hand, Yuzu is a remarkably open person, and her envisioning a marriage with Mei certainly seems to imply she wants them to be open about it.
On the other hand, she has been keeping it a secret throughout the manga, and she actually got seriously worried when she thought Shirapon-senpai figured them out. Would it really be so out of character for her to agree to keep their relationship a secret, especially if it would enable Mei to not abandon her life's goal? What do you think about this?

Unrelated, but lol, I completely forgot to comment about it the previous chapter. Momokino really does know about Mei and Yuzu being lovers. I remember that chapter when Matsuri had her outburst in front of Momokino and Shirapon-senpai, and I was "woa, woa, wait a minute, Shirapon knows, but Momokino does not, why did she not react in any way upon hearing it??". It was never shown how or when Momokino found out. I guess the only one now who is still in the dark about it is Harumin.

last edited at Feb 4, 2018 9:13AM

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Now that I look at it, this last unrelated bit belatedly convinced me it would actually be somewhat in character for Yuzu to keep it a secret for Mei's sake. I mean, she never told her best friend about it, even though there would be no actual harmful consequences for Mei if she did so.

last edited at Feb 4, 2018 9:30AM

Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

Depends what you mean by "living with Yuzu". If you mean they live together, but keep the nature of their relationship a secret, then yes, it could work.

I was talking about living openly. For me, it is Yuzu's life philosophy that inspires other characters to try doing the same. I cannot imagine Yuzu stepping back on her views like that. Even for Mei, because loving Mei is somewhat freeing her from the rules, exactly what Yuzu told to Mei when she tried to convince her to come back at home in chapter 2.

If, however, you mean they actually openly display their relationship, then the answer is simple, no, that would not be possible. Dating your own step-sibling is generally heavily frowned upon even if it is a heterosexual relationship, and not just by the upper classes. There would probably not be a single family who would send their daughter there. At the end of the day, parents have the right to send their children to any school they choose, you can not force them to pick this specific one.

That's what I fear, Mei will have to sacrifice something along the road. Clear as crystal water. I was just wondering if the author could imagine a third solution instead of choosing. Except Shou coming back and maybe him having a child with Ume. He said that he would stop going visiting the world when he will have found his answer. Maybe that will be saving Mei from the school inheritance. But two obstacles: first, Mei wants to rule the school. Second, Shou flew because of the school, and he would come back to rule it again. Of course, Mei's personal happiness would be in the balance, but, it was already in it. By leaving, Shou knew Mei would be unhappy. Two much circumvolutions here.

I mean, on the one hand, Yuzu is a remarkably open person, and her envisioning a marriage with Mei certainly seems to imply she wants them to be open about it.
On the other hand, she has been keeping it a secret throughout the manga, and she actually got seriously worried when she thought Shirapon-senpai figured them out. Would it really be so out of character for her to agree to keep their relationship a secret, especially if it would enable Mei to not abandon her life's goal? What do you think about this?

Yuzu could sacrifice her own life view for Mei's safe, I am sure of that. But it questions the manga's message. During 8 volumes, Yuzu has been built as a shonen character, able to fight and win adversity that was more difficult to confront. She's a unique driving force, so letting down and living low key, I don"t think it's an improvement. An author wants her characters to progress. And I may add, Yuzu seems ready for the future now. Chapter 35 show that. Mei's speech in the library definitely decided Yuzu to be proud of her relationship and to be able to confront those who wouldn't be ok.

It was never shown how or when Momokino found out. I guess the only one now who is still in the dark about it is Harumin.

Harumi is definitely a special case. Sometimes she gives the vibe to know, sometimes not. I think she doesn't know but maybe she has her suspicions.

The author perfectly succeeds to let us wonder how it will be solved. It will be solved if we believe her promises to give Yuzu and Mei a happy ending, but how. How much will Mei lose? I like to think Mei will have an epiphany and will realize her goal life, professionally speaking, isn't ruling the school or inherit it.

Rin
joined Aug 4, 2017

It was never shown how or when Momokino found out. I guess the only one now who is still in the dark about it is Harumin.

Harumi is definitely a special case. Sometimes she gives the vibe to know, sometimes not. I think she doesn't know but maybe she has her suspicions.

Honestly I think Harumin has known since the beginning. Yuzu has always gone to her for advice on Mei and it doesn't help that she was always around when Yuzu bought her incest manga and tried using it as a guide lol. And with the way she was able to see right through Matsuri's act the moment she saw her Harumin is pretty perceptive, so for her to be totally in the dark would be a little weird. Especially since lately, she's spending a lot of time with Matsuri who's always pushing their secret to the limit so she's at least bound to try and let it slip around her the most. Maybe Harumin is waiting for Yuzu to come out and tell her but she's definitely a pretty big mystery, since she hasn't been given very many scenes since this new arc started - she's mainly in the background.

As for why Himeko knows... she's been aware of Yuzu's feelings for Mei this whole time, hasn't she? IIRC she assumed Yuzu was in love with Mei before she even knew they were step-sisters, so maybe she's just kept quiet since she knew Mei was engaged to a new person after Amamiya was scratched off the list and thought anything involving Yuzu wasn't going to last anyway? We should have gotten at least a hint that she found out or had known instead of not reacting to Matsuri's outburst lol (like idk maybe opening one eye when Mei and Yuzu left the room to make out or something).

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

At this stage of story everybody knows about Yuzu and Mei relationship in their little group of friends. Except Nene ofc. Seriously, someone can still think differently? Its obvious.

Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

what bother me with the "Harumi knows it already but seems oblivious" is the extra story of volume 7 collector edition. When she's alone with Mei waiting for the rain to end. She really doesn't seem to be suspicious about Mei and Yuzu's real relationship. She just takes Mei as the usual cold president whose company isn't really her cup of tea. But, maybe another author's inconsistency, like Mei's scar on the thigh that was totally forgotten in volume 8 (bath scene).

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

Mei and Yuzu just still think they are anonymous with their relationship. Did you expect Hamuri to start talking to Mei about in what position she fuck with Yuzu? C'mon. In my opinion girls just wait for Yuzu and Mei to tell everything about their love.

Mog2
joined Jul 29, 2017

Mei and Yuzu just still think they are anonymous with their relationship. Did you expect Hamuri to start talking to Mei about in what position she fuck with Yuzu? C'mon. In my opinion girls just wait for Yuzu and Mei to tell everything about their love.

Nope of course, but her interactions with Mei could be different if she knew. I'm suspicious, guess we'll know in next chapter or two where Harumin stands in this situation. She could be a helping hand for Yuzu so, we'll know for sure what she's really aware of...

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

I think that Matsuri will have a role to play in the coming events. That conversation with Nene about Y&H friendship was foreshadow of something.

Lalala Ñañaña
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joined Oct 6, 2015

Uh... Can I just say
Mei can legally say no and maybe I don't know talk to Yuzu

Yeah, because gay teens are so welcomed in Japan, right?

Surely she could refuse without having to come out???

last edited at Feb 8, 2018 2:37AM

Copy90_90_zpscf246422
joined Sep 18, 2014

I think people were too busy complaining about the sketchy drawings to notice that Harumin's put Matsuri's head in her breasts.. That or I didn't see the commentaries about it. That's highly dangerous shipping fuel.

We're not focusing on HaruMatsu, right now, given the current situation.
There are also far more obvious ship tease in previous chapters so it's not as dangerous as you think.

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

You know, girls can leave Japan, just like "their" father done.

joined Feb 10, 2018

You know, girls can leave Japan, just like "their" father done.

Yes, they can. But Mei is steadfast with her decision to run/inherit the school. So that's not really a possible outcome here in the future. Unless the father returns and replaces Mei's position. Whose following the anime btw?

Anyways, hello to all of you. New but not so new, been a lurker for a year now.

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

If Shou will back JUST in this moment and save his daughter from grandfather, it would be deus ex machina for me.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

Shou can come back OR Grandpa can just die. I'm rooting for the second option.

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

Or Menager will discover the truth about Mei&Yuzu.

Etult87ueaawqbz_%20(2)
joined Oct 15, 2016

So, the RAWs of next chapter came out and /u/ is having a meltdown over what it allegedly happens

Time skip to Yuzu's last year of high school, Mei abandoned her but left a note explaining her actions, Yuzu is sad, and Matsuri is now a first year at Aihara Academy.

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 4:32PM by Alextasha

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

^ Hahaha if you ever needed confirmation that this trashy series was dragged out hoping for an anime there you go.

Saburouta and Kodama Aoko are the worst things to happen to the yuri genre.

last edited at Feb 16, 2018 2:59PM

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

Saburouta and Kodama Aoko are the worst things to happen to the yuri genre.

Not that tastes differ and some of us like their works. Nope, they are just the worst. Killed the genre, if you ask me. At least spell their names correctly. You missed Ejima from your usual list, by the by.

Capture
joined Dec 12, 2016

If you like random time skips that give the author an excuse to completely cut out a story arc because she is trying to end the shit show after cashing in the anime check then you like trash. How can you support this shit?

I pity anyone that kept buying books past volume 4.

last edited at Feb 16, 2018 3:50PM

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

Who cares about random manga with lesbians?

Etult87ueaawqbz_%20(2)
joined Oct 15, 2016

Who cares about random manga with lesbians?

I do.

We
joined Feb 5, 2018

I read 36 chapter... And it sucks... Really... I have hope 37 will be something awesome! But now... meh...

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

I can only laugh to be honest... I'm waiting for the conclusion on the side characters, like drill twintails

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