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Guys Happy Sugar Life needs your help!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11215612

Do we have a rough estimate on how long a volume would take to come out?

I don't mind waiting, but if we go with the magazine option instead for popular consensus, I would be okay with donating towards that.

Amazon jp says that the 4th volume be out on the 22th of November.

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Maybe it's just me, but I have the feeling that everybody

Is pedo for Shio-chan

and/or

Yandere for Shio-chan

Maybe :D

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joined Apr 27, 2015

i kinda have this morbid curiosity about how sato got into the person's home and murdered them.

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joined May 26, 2015

i kinda have this morbid curiosity about how sato got into the person's home and murdered them.

I think it's just her abusive aunt's house, and the dead person is her, not sure.

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joined Dec 23, 2015

O____O

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joined Feb 15, 2013

The author was trying to trick us into thinking that Sato was confessing her murder. Which admittedly on hindsight very out of character for her. No wonder It felt kinda weird that Satou admitted her "sin" so easy

Cheating on the one she loved however is new to her. Hence the over-dramatic confession.

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joined Aug 2, 2015

I can't help but shake my head each time I read a new chapter, as if I'm trying to vehemently deny something but I'm not sure what.
I was completely led to believe that Sato was going to confess about the murder, but I also thought that was weird for her to suddenly grow a conscious lol Thinking that her "cheating" was a huge sin however is very much like Sato... and it's frightening that I already have the gist of her character.

I'm starting to think Shio-chan is letting off some sort of pheromone that makes people crazy about her o.O, actually no, I've thought that for awhile now, but with more and more people falling for her "angelic cuteness" I can't help but think it only cements my theory haha

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joined Jan 6, 2015

Shio is obviously a Tomie-style mutant who drives everyone around her mad with possessive desire.

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The author was trying to trick us into thinking that Sato was confessing her murder. Which admittedly on hindsight very out of character for her. No wonder It felt kinda weird that Satou admitted her "sin" so easy

That really surprised me as well. Started laughing when I finally realized what she was "confessing". But it makes sense. To Satou, saying she loves someone other than Shio is way worse than murder. Notice how miserable she was after her encounter with Suu (washing her mouth out, freaking out, hallucinating her aunt, etc.), but when she gouged the eyes out of those fools in the park in chapter 7, she was back to her regular, cheerful self right away.

I liked this chapter because it shows that Satou isn't sociopathic. She was so haunted by the guilt of "betraying her love" that she forced herself to confess, even though she was afraid it would make Shio hate her. One of Anti-Social Personality Disorder's key indicators is the absence of this same kind of remorse. Thus, she has a moral system and feels empathy, just in a very selective, alien way. At the same time, she might understand how to manipulate people who are guided by their selfish desires, but she has very little insight into Shio.

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For some reason I believe that lou reed's "perfect day" would be a perfect match for this manga

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I wish we could see more about the murder.
Nobody give's a fuck about Sato's aunt missing?!
And her ex's dead too!

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Not sure which of you is this guy. But good work, we need more yuri fan's youtube channels ^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7iHAUfq8WE

Oh, that's me :) Thanks for your support!

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schuyguy posted:

That really surprised me as well. Started laughing when I finally realized what she was "confessing". But it makes sense. To Satou, saying she loves someone other than Shio is way worse than murder. Notice how miserable she was after her encounter with Suu (washing her mouth out, freaking out, hallucinating her aunt, etc.), but when she gouged the eyes out of those fools in the park in chapter 7, she was back to her regular, cheerful self right away.

I liked this chapter because it shows that Satou isn't sociopathic. She was so haunted by the guilt of "betraying her love" that she forced herself to confess, even though she was afraid it would make Shio hate her. One of Anti-Social Personality Disorder's key indicators is the absence of this same kind of remorse. Thus, she has a moral system and feels empathy, just in a very selective, alien way. At the same time, she might understand how to manipulate people who are guided by their selfish desires, but she has very little insight into Shio.

It really just seems like Sato's psychologically fucked up because of her aunt but really just wants nothing more than what anyone else wants; to be happy. Just in her case that seems to be tied directly to Shio. Honestly I kinda feel sorry for her more than anything so far.

I am really curious about how she ended up with Shio though. And despite the fact Shio's considered missing it doesn't really seem like she misses her family at all so I'm kinda curious about that too.

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http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/happy_sugar_life_ch11#7 she open her mouth but the words wont come out shes choking how everybody is joking now the clocks run out times up over blow Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/happy_sugar_life_ch11#7 she open her mouth but the words wont come out shes choking how everybody is joking now the clocks run out times up over blow Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity

You made me seriously just laugh at this chapter. Just, thank you

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joined Oct 5, 2016

Hadn't read this in a while since loli and yandere ain't my normal likes but I do love the extremes in emotions... so twisted lol

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It really just seems like Sato's psychologically fucked up because of her aunt but really just wants nothing more than what anyone else wants; to be happy. Just in her case that seems to be tied directly to Shio. Honestly I kinda feel sorry for her more than anything so far.

I am really curious about how she ended up with Shio though. And despite the fact Shio's considered missing it doesn't really seem like she misses her family at all so I'm kinda curious about that too.

Me too.... I was so hoping we'd find out in this chapter, but it ended up being hilarious, so I forgive the author.

My personal theory is that Satou is just perpetuating the natural cycle of lesbian lolicon yanderes. When the time comes, Shio will murder Satou and find her own abused loli to rescue and cherish, just as Satou did before her, and Satou's "aunt" before her, going back for generations. It's simply the circle of life.

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It really just seems like Sato's psychologically fucked up because of her aunt but really just wants nothing more than what anyone else wants; to be happy. Just in her case that seems to be tied directly to Shio. Honestly I kinda feel sorry for her more than anything so far.

I am really curious about how she ended up with Shio though. And despite the fact Shio's considered missing it doesn't really seem like she misses her family at all so I'm kinda curious about that too.

Me too.... I was so hoping we'd find out in this chapter, but it ended up being hilarious, so I forgive the author.

My personal theory is that Satou is just perpetuating the natural cycle of lesbian lolicon yanderes. When the time comes, Shio will murder Satou and find her own abused loli to rescue and cherish, just as Satou did before her, and Satou's "aunt" before her, going back for generations. It's simply the circle of life.

Except, from what we've seen, Satou was never very receptive to her aunt's form of love. So I'm not sure the situations are going to end up too, too similar, since Shio seems more receptive to Satou. Which makes me wonder what it means that "Satou's love was awakened by her aunt," if she never felt these feelings until she met Shio.

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Except, from what we've seen, Satou was never very receptive to her aunt's form of love. So I'm not sure the situations are going to end up too, too similar, since Shio seems more receptive to Satou. Which makes me wonder what it means that "Satou's love was awakened by her aunt," if she never felt these feelings until she met Shio.

Oh yes. I just like to think about that for fun. It's very unlikely that things are heading in that direction, there'd be all sorts of awkward details in the way.

I also wonder about what that line meant, and what her aunt was like. It could be that she first felt love for something her aunt exposed her to. Or that her aunt taught her some lesson about love. Or that she felt love for her aunt but later made herself forget. More contradictory evidence: the aunt she imagines seems to be both her guide and her tormentor - "showing her the way" to deal with Suu-chan, but also criticizing her love for Shio-chan. That may or may not be how her aunt was in life (I tend to assume she's dead), since when Satou hears another person's voice inside her head, she's just hearing her mind's reflection of them (though the author uses this technique quite liberally, and it might mean something different in the context of the story). But her reaction does indicate that her aunt had a profound and lasting impact on her, one way or another.

It's difficult to come up with any specific scenarios, since we simply know so little about Satou's past, and what we do know is suspect. It's become quite clear that the stories she tells about herself cannot be taken at face value. Not because she lies, but because the truth she knows is so skewed as to be sometimes unrecognizable.

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schuyguy posted:

More contradictory evidence: the aunt she imagines seems to be both her guide and her tormentor - "showing her the way" to deal with Suu-chan, but also criticizing her love for Shio-chan. That may or may not be how her aunt was in life (I tend to assume she's dead), since when Satou hears another person's voice inside her head, she's just hearing her mind's reflection of them (though the author uses this technique quite liberally, and it might mean something different in the context of the story). But her reaction does indicate that her aunt had a profound and lasting impact on her, one way or another.

This isn't really contradictory though. Abusive guardians are all too often like that. Both guide and tormentor. That's one of the reasons people who suffer through that sort of thing end up so messed up and likely to perpetuate it. Due to their own experiences they struggle to know what the proper methods are since that's all they've known. (This isn't talking only about sexual abuse btw, I'm including emotional and physical abuse.) Though people who have suffered abuse in that sort of capacity are also far more likely to go out of their way to try not to perpetuate the problem as well.

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So that felt like a complete cop-out, although it does make more sense than her suddenly feeling guilty over, y'know, potentially having beaten someone to death and left the remains in a creepy ass locked room (what about the stench?? Or did she dispose of the body? I don't recall...)

Also, ARGH! Can we have a chapter in which Best Friend is NOT in danger or within the vicinity of all the crazy eyes???

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I just realized, I've assumed that Shio has been officially designated as a "Missing Person", but from what we've seen, the only person putting up fliers and looking for Shio is Asahi (her brother, probably). In the pre-serialization oneshot, she was on the police missing persons' website, but the actual series has so many discrepancies with the original work that it's probably best to treat them as separate stories.

That seems to indicate then that her parents haven't reported her missing, either because they don't care about her, or because they're dead. In chapters 5 and 6, Asahi's flashbacks show him handing Shio to a woman (probably their mother), who takes her and flees from the house (name on the door says Kobe). Before she leaves, she promises to return for him. He then returns inside to confront "a demon". Shio's flashbacks show her living along with her mother, who insists that she never leave the house, and is always either faceless or angry in her memory.

Thus we can sort of reconstruct events to say that Shio's father was a violent man. Shio's mother took her and left, but Asahi stayed behind as a sacrifice (it's clear he knows he's going to be beaten if he stays, but he's more worried about Shio). Later on, Shio's mother's mental state degenerated, probably due to fear and worry that her husband would come after her. In this scenario, there is a plausible case to be made that her mother is dead, due to domestic abuse, and her father is dead as well, or locked up, or simply doesn't care to look for her. Asahi is clearly living on the streets, and his pathological distrust of adults indicates that he either couldn't get the police to help, or that he didn't even try asking for their help.

The person who Satou chopped up and disposed of is probably her aunt. For one thing, Shouko knows where Satou lives, and thinks of it as the place where she lives with her aunt - Shouko knew Satou before Satou acquired Shio, so it would make sense that the place she thinks of as Satou's home is the place where she lived with her aunt. In chapter 2, there is a scene where the narrator says, "This happiness-filled castle built for two is all thanks to one person's sacrifice" and the scene cuts to the garbage bags in the bloody room. Satou's flashbacks and hallucinations of her aunt tend to be of a woman with bandages covering her face and neck, which shows that she suffered violence from someone. It would be far more difficult to murder someone and move into their apartment than it would be to murder someone you live with and continue to live there. In the first case, the landlord and neighbors might be suspicious, acquaintances of the former resident would be suspicious, and if the person were reported as missing, the police would show up and be very curious why a stranger was living in the home of a missing person. If you already lived there and were known as a relative of the missing person, it would be easier to avoid suspicion and talk your way out of any problems. The main problem with this assessment is that mail from Satou's workplace is returned, which would seems to indicate that her registered address has changed at some point.

So I believe that some incident occurred that involved Shio running away from her mother, Shio's father killing her mother, Satou killing her aunt, and Satou kidnapping/rescuing Shio. The initial connection between Satou and Shio is the main mystery in this scenario. It could have been random chance, that Satou happened upon Shio when they were both in desperate and confused states and they clung to each other. It could be that Satou or Satou's aunt had some relationship with Shio's father or mother, in which case this whole mess would be a convoluted chain of domestic violence.

Of course, this is all speculation on the partial evidence available. The author could easily introduce new characters or complications that would render this all meaningless. Some or all of the hints so far could be mere distractions meant to mislead us. But I think the prominent role of psychotically obsessive love is consistent with a setup involving interconnected chains of domestic abuse.

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You know what... This manga made me so curious about Sato, Shio, and all the characters... Just can't wait to read volume 4! I hope it will explain all things.

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Quick question: Anyone else feel like they are slowly going stark-raving-mad reading this, and liking it?

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