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Icon_tinymila
joined Jan 30, 2017

Holy guacamole the intrigue in this chapter was impeccable.

Lojsdbe
joined Sep 16, 2019

I wonder if the girls are there willingly or brainwashed, I really can't read Gigante's vibe at all so it could go both ways.

I’m going to guess that they’re mentally broken. Imagine Azul in Chapter 10 if Baiser hadn’t stopped her. Lord was basically an S&M foil to Baiser, so I could definitely imagine something like that happening. I’m guessing Sister either took over the harem after Lord fell, or gathered a few of Lord’s victims for her own purposes.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I wonder if the girls are there willingly or brainwashed, I really can't read Gigante's vibe at all so it could go both ways.

I’m going to guess that they’re mentally broken. Imagine Azul in Chapter 10 if Baiser hadn’t stopped her. Lord was basically an S&M foil to Baiser, so I could definitely imagine something like that happening. I’m guessing Sister either took over the harem after Lord fell, or gathered a few of Lord’s victims for her own purposes.

I doubt Enorme has any awareness of these girls since she's a genuine good Magical Girl now, she'd have gone looking for them from the minute she turned good and tried to help them recover if she did. She probably sent the others to "eliminate" them during the hunts and was simply told that the job was done afterwards.

I think it's more likely what someone else mentioned; that Sister Gigante either swooped them up right after the hunt or that they are what she really did with the ones she was sent after.

I can't tell at this point if Sister Gigante is going to be a Dom foil and form a Dom trinity with Enorme and Baiser as different kinds of Doms who are more or less in charge of a group, or if she's something entirely different. I really can't read her vibe at all, she doesn't seem like a Dom as much as she just seems like someone who goes with the flow and it just so happens a bunch of people come to worship her both professionally and privately.

last edited at Aug 23, 2026 10:05AM

Euphyanis
joined Feb 20, 2023

Thats a lot of bombshell in ch65, and they all tied into one thing or another thats been around since the first major arc. Real good set up chapter imo

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Wow, what a chapter. It seems we are heading into the Final Saga now.

Does being rich make you a nudist or something?

You'd be surprised how much money you can save up by not needing to buy clothes.

"I became a billionaire by saving money from not buying clothes, my nudist luxury isekai life begins now!"

Not to mention that saving up on hospital and/or burial costs by being directly isekai'd by Truck-kun also saves you a lot of cash. ^^

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Well, damn, did not see this coming... Things are about to get really interesting again!

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joined Jul 10, 2016

Huh.

Amimaidprofile
joined Mar 5, 2019

I can't tell at this point if Sister Gigante is going to be a Dom foil and form a Dom trinity with Enorme and Baiser as different kinds of Doms who are more or less in charge of a group, or if she's something entirely different. I really can't read her vibe at all, she doesn't seem like a Dom as much as she just seems like someone who goes with the flow and it just so happens a bunch of people come to worship her both professionally and privately.

At that point, they could be representative of the different styles of domination. Enorme was big on orders being followed, so could be D/s representative. Baiser's been all about restraints and sensation, so can represent B&D. if Gigante is all about pain leading to mindbreak, she'll be the SM rep, and that'll cover the trifecta.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

At that point, they could be representative of the different styles of domination. Enorme was big on orders being followed, so could be D/s representative. Baiser's been all about restraints and sensation, so can represent B&D. if Gigante is all about pain leading to mindbreak, she'll be the SM rep, and that'll cover the trifecta.

The confusion for me comes from the fact that I see Baiser more as a representation of a GOOD Domme while Enorme is/was a clear-cut example of an archetypical BAD Domme, the kind all proper practitioners warn you about who only do it for her own sake and with no regards at all for her submissive(s). Her purpose was to highlight how Baiser was different by being an example of doing it wrong so that Baiser could shine as an example of doing it right.

Although she doesn't exactly get consent from people, I chalk that up more to a difference in cultural values in S&M rather than any intended implications by our western standards.

(I believe eastern S&M culture tends to not be about a dialogue between partners so much as simply shouldering the "responsibility to figure it out" on the Dominant; and a "good" Dom is someone who accurately figures it out for their sub without being told while a "bad" Dom is one who can't understand their sub's needs unless the sub tells them explicitly; a standard by which Baiser is essentially the perfect Domme)

In that dynamic of Good Domme vs Bad Domme, I'm not sure what Sister Gigante could even represent since there's not really three states of right and wrong, and just doing another "Bad Domme who does it wrong" would be a retread of Enorme. The only thing I can think of would be an inverted power dynamic.

A Domme who's not really a Domme as much as they're allowing themselves to be taken care of by submissives who are doing it on their own initiative?

last edited at Aug 23, 2026 10:37PM

joined Aug 11, 2022

Hmm so Sister Gigante knows and works with Alice's mother (Mother is manager/assistant I guess) while she works a bunch of various jobs from news reporters, commentators, actor, gravure idol and other publicity stuff like game contestant. She obvious knows MC (Utena's IRL identity as well, just not making any move yet)

Job's outfit or requirement for the new villain team/antagonists: Full on nothing!...Or that might be just their style at home.

Momo's maid/Kasumi: "Eh...This is fine...Pretty much what I wear or don't work when working for that pervert..."

At least the 5 magical girl villains are living in a nice high-rise apartment with cake, smokes, random roses and whatever else they might want (Might be brainwash though or at least semi-brainwash like other comment said/suggest).

Yeah, lord Enorme didn't follow up much on the other magical girls that been hunted down by her group, probably just went 'good job' to her minions at the time when they were bringing back some of their magic transformation tool/device (Didn't keep track of the numbers or who the girls even were which lets Sister Gigante recruits/captures some secretly ).

Lojsdbe
joined Sep 16, 2019

I wonder if the girls are there willingly or brainwashed, I really can't read Gigante's vibe at all so it could go both ways.

I’m going to guess that they’re mentally broken. Imagine Azul in Chapter 10 if Baiser hadn’t stopped her. Lord was basically an S&M foil to Baiser, so I could definitely imagine something like that happening. I’m guessing Sister either took over the harem after Lord fell, or gathered a few of Lord’s victims for her own purposes.

I doubt Enorme has any awareness of these girls since she's a genuine good Magical Girl now, she'd have gone looking for them from the minute she turned good and tried to help them recover if she did. She probably sent the others to "eliminate" them during the hunts and was simply told that the job was done afterwards.

I think it's more likely what someone else mentioned; that Sister Gigante either swooped them up right after the hunt or that they are what she really did with the ones she was sent after.

I can't tell at this point if Sister Gigante is going to be a Dom foil and form a Dom trinity with Enorme and Baiser as different kinds of Doms who are more or less in charge of a group, or if she's something entirely different. I really can't read her vibe at all, she doesn't seem like a Dom as much as she just seems like someone who goes with the flow and it just so happens a bunch of people come to worship her both professionally and privately.

Well, Enorme is definitely aware that they’re out there, since she inquired about Magia Rouge (who the author was still calling Cyan at that point) a few chapters back. I honestly could see Enorme just getting bored of them after awhile and either abandoning them or leaving them to Gigante/Vatz, who then whisked them away somewhere else.

Fihtlipucaaqy_l
joined Sep 30, 2023

Zzzzz. Great. Even with all the existing plot points and characters hanging in the air at the moment, a bunch of boring archetypical new characters are shunted into everything. Classic instance of the mangaka jamming a shitton of new characters in for no fucking reason. Thanks a lot Oonaka, you hack.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Zzzzz. Great. Even with all the existing plot points and characters hanging in the air at the moment, a bunch of boring archetypical new characters are shunted into everything. Classic instance of the mangaka jamming a shitton of new characters in for no fucking reason. Thanks a lot Oonaka, you hack.

What makes you say they're "boring archetypical new character" when we literally don't know anything about them yet?

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joined Oct 22, 2018

Zzzzz. Great. Even with all the existing plot points and characters hanging in the air at the moment, a bunch of boring archetypical new characters are shunted into everything. Classic instance of the mangaka jamming a shitton of new characters in for no fucking reason. Thanks a lot Oonaka, you hack.

What makes you say they're "boring archetypical new character" when we literally don't know anything about them yet?

We do know two things: they're the 5 missing magical girls from the Enorme's Hunt, and Sister is the reason they went missing

Surprise(2)
joined Jun 17, 2021

That was not at all where I expected this chapter to go. Omg, how does this story keep surprising me.

Cs4_cover
joined Jul 13, 2015

Sister Gigante had her own harem!

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