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joined Jan 14, 2020

The idea that peas could be called bitter is new and alien to me. But still, Yuuka was a jerk.

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

The issue isn't if peas taste good or not, it's that Yuuka put them in despite Riko and Aika telling her not to.

SmallFriendlyScorpion
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joined Apr 25, 2020

yeah no Yuuka's 100% in the wrong.
I was more just being facetious. acting like I was indignant over something in the thread (but it's only about peas).
to each their own tbh, like with cilantro preferences which is literally determined by a traceable gene. so don't force people to eat food they hate, lol, especially not cilantro.

Soga Lisa Uploader
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joined May 29, 2022

Alright! I will not tolerate this lugubrious piece of pea slander that could only be uttered by a bilaterally symmetrical bottom of the barrel hominid. I hate this libel with every fiber, denatured protein and apoptotic cell of my being. Blood has been spilled for less.

First, let us dissect Riko's complaint:
"Awful texture, a taste & smell like leaves and so bitter," she says committing an act of distaste rivaled only by Chris Kempczinski's reluctant bite of his company's burger.

The phrase, a taste & smell like leaves, is utterly uninformative. Why? Because there are hundreds to thousands of distinct volatile compounds in leaves. It is a genuine disservice to place the odor and flavor of peas in the same category as the leaves and blossoms of the Bradford pear. (Which, if you don't know, smell similar to rotting meat.)

Secondly, the texture and bitterness of peas has much to do with the development of starches. Plants produce the energy-carrier ATP and the hydrogen carrier NADPH through photosynthesis. Then, the Calvin cycle performs carbon fixation (using RuBP) and uses those two types of molecules to produce trioses (which are 3 carbon sugars, through redox reactions) and other byproducts before regenerating the RuBP using fresh ATP and NADPH. In peas that are plucked from the vine, this final process of regeneration is sabotaged, and stored sugars and trioses are turned into starches. The trioses undergo several transformations to form ADP-glucose. ADP-glucose is transformed into amylose starch by the starch synthetase enzyme, amylose is transformed into amylopectin starch by the starch branching enzyme and you end up, in a short few hours, with a pea depleted of all its natural sugars.

How does this affect flavor and texture you ask? Well, sugars, y'know, are flavorsome. And if you get rid of the sugars you get rid of what tastes good, which means they can't mask these nasty tasting things called saponins. While there are a few tasty saponins, most (including those found in peas) are bitter, astringent and unwholesome. Certain individuals and younger children especially have a higher sensitivity to bitter tasting compounds and can perceive them more strongly. Additionally, the starches in peas have an unpleasant waxy texture instead of the yielding texture of high sugar content hypertonic peas.

Tldr; Peas should be bought very fresh, within hours of being picked. If you cannot do so, may I suggest the greatest convenience food of all time, the frozen pea? By freezing the peas, they do not undergo starch conversion and remain sweet.

In other words, it's all Yuuka's fault. (I mean duh, she was arguing for natto curry and natto pizza in the opening pages of the opening chapter: biggest hear me out of all time.) Do not blame the innocent pea, for it is all Yuuka's fault. She should have gotten the tasty frozen peas instead.

They're yucky icky no good

last edited at May 31, 2026 4:24AM

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

EDIT:
Yuuka is evil for putting peas in that...Everyone (Okay maybe just 89% of population) has a horrible vegetable that they hate and can't eat. Could have cook it separately and add it in later or separated rich pile/something.

9 times out of 10, it's an issue with technique or preparation. Almost every common vegetable can be made tasty if treated well. Not all vegetables are equal but still. Also I ranted so hard that I forgot to mention that salt cancels out bitterness perceptually. Most people think that adding sugar makes things less bitter (hence the word bittersweet and all its connotations,) but sugar just complements and balances bitterness, makes it harmonious with the rest of the flavors so to say. It's salt that obliterates the perception of bitter compounds. If you add enough, eventually you won't even taste the bitterness, it'll just be salty.

That is my trick to eating bitter melon.

But unless your grandma gives you a bunch of them and you feel obligated to consume them or the Chinese store has a giant bag of them for sale for 1USD only and you're too broke to afford real vegetables, don't eat bitter melon. It's not worth it, way more bitter than arugula/rockets.

Having them either stir-fried or boiled makes them much more enjoyable to eat

7d3
joined May 7, 2022

Ok, so does everyone agree that Yuuka should be executed?

I love peas but WHO DOES THAT WHEN 2 OTHER PEOPLE HATE THEM? Yuuka was a minority and acted as a damn tyrant and I the people need her head now!

Dumshork
joined Mar 19, 2022

Riko should definitely take Yuuka somewhere private and give her a good spanking for pulling that. And after the spanking...

joined Apr 20, 2023

Riko should definitely take Yuuka somewhere private and give her a good spanking for pulling that. And after the spanking...

Holup

joined Apr 20, 2023

The issue isn't if peas taste good or not, it's that Yuuka put them in despite Riko and Aika telling her not to.

Yeah duh.

But I think Riko and Aika would enjoy fresh peas that aren't bitter.

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