Page 7 was the best thing to ever happen in this manga

I really do not know if Keiko has a romantic attraction to Ran, but I am pretty sure Keiko has a physical attraction to Ran, it became clear to me in Chapter 12

I really do not know if Keiko has a romantic attraction to Ran, but I am pretty sure Keiko has a physical attraction to Ran, it became clear to me in Chapter 12

Chapter 12 felt more like Keiko being happy babying someone, something she craves for.

Chapter 12 felt more like Keiko being happy babying someone, something she craves for.

Perhaps Keiko is repressing it by thinking that this is weird.

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So pretty much everyone is saying:
Ran sees Keiko playing with the little girl.
Ran is happy (because Keiko's healing) and sad (because Keiko might NOT NEED HER anymore).
Ran has mixed feelings about it.

It's getting to be a bit frustrating.

I think that Ran's bad dream is that Keiko might get an husband and a kids on her own and leave her ......

It's not just Ran's, I think everyone here fears the same thing.
Let's hope this doesn't go the typical "I love you but I want kids, brb gonna find me some dick, see ya" - way.

I think that Ran's bad dream is that Keiko might get an husband and a kids on her own and leave her ......

It's not just Ran's, I think everyone here fears the same thing.
Let's hope this doesn't go the typical "I love you but I want kids, brb gonna find me some dick, see ya" - way.

No, not everyone. I said, further up the page and another member said on a previous page, that maybe Ran is just really worried about Keiko because she saw and was with Keiko during those moments when Keiko was having nightmares. You can think you're over an issue but sometimes a little hare trigger could easily throw you over the edge before you realized what happened and, recovering will be just as difficult. So seeing Keiko with a kid like that all of a sudden, you bet Ran would be really worried, especially after seeing and helping her through those nightmare moments. If anything, Ran suggested boozing to help herself and not celebrate the fact that Keiko may have coped and overcome her nightmares.

Seriously, I don't know why everyone is jumping to the conclusion that, no more nightmare = bring on the penis!! Keiko seems pretty content with her life right now and the last relationship seems like it may have been her wake up call.

Love the cover with Ran. She's beautiful.

And this chapter is a date!! A date!! I just want to enjoy it without over thinking.

But... but... I would love to know what Shou is planning to do. This must have a yuri happy end. Must have.

The yuri ending is still up in the air. We may well have a separation when they come to term with their problems. Ran getting over her crush on Keiko, and Keiko aiming for a new start, being at peace with her relationship with her mother and eventually building the family she seems to need with her ex, who seem to still lover her.

Honestly, I can't see any yuri without my goggles, even though I wish there was.

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The yuri ending is still up in the air. We may well have a separation when they come to term with their problems. Ran getting over her crush on Keiko, and Keiko aiming for a new start, being at peace with her relationship with her mother and eventually building the family she seems to need with her ex, who seem to still lover her.

Not with the ex, he seems to be over Keiko and into Ran now. If Keiko ever get with a man I don't think it will be him.

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The yuri ending is still up in the air. We may well have a separation when they come to term with their problems. Ran getting over her crush on Keiko, and Keiko aiming for a new start, being at peace with her relationship with her mother and eventually building the family she seems to need with her ex, who seem to still lover her.

Not with the ex, he seems to be over Keiko and into Ran now. If Keiko ever get with a man I don't think it will be him.

He just said that to be around her was calming (IIRC). Exactly what Keiko feels atm.

It's quite usual in that kind of bars in Japan. Saralymen go there after work to relax, chat with pretty women, get wasted and ease the pressure of their daily life. Doesn't mean they are into the hostesses, though they can have their favorite.

The yuri ending is still up in the air. We may well have a separation when they come to term with their problems. Ran getting over her crush on Keiko, and Keiko aiming for a new start, being at peace with her relationship with her mother and eventually building the family she seems to need with her ex, who seem to still lover her.

Not with the ex, he seems to be over Keiko and into Ran now. If Keiko ever get with a man I don't think it will be him.

He just said that to be around her was calming (IIRC). Exactly what Keiko feels atm.

It's quite usual in that kind of bars in Japan. Saralymen go there after work to relax, chat with pretty women, get wasted and ease the pressure of their daily life. Doesn't mean they are into the hostesses, though they can have their favorite.

I know that but here the fact that he think like that about Ran clearly looks like he's over Keiko to me and it seems a bit stronger of an attention to Ran than having a favorite hostess in a bar. All the attention and worry he had about Keiko went to "just watching her is enough for me" talking about Ran, it doesn't leave any doubt for me.

Honestly, if they did get back together, I would be very disappointed in the manga, I could go as far as saying it would ruin the manga to me.

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Honestly, if they did get back together, I would be very disappointed in the manga, I could go as far as saying it would ruin the manga to me.

I really don't think they're going to get back together but I certainly hope so that they bump into eachother and have a discussion about the break up. The reason why they broke up was because she was unstable because she just miscarried, tis' totally understandable. But It feels like lots of thing went unsaid, because she rejected him and he had no clue what was happening. He couldn't really, Japanese men have no idea what a woman is, the haven't learned that one at school!

I digress, I think it would be beneficial for the both of the have a heart to heart talk about it went down. I know of several people who ran into exs a bit afer the dust settled and learned a lot from the experience, about themselves and about others. It's no surprise, I heard communication is key in interacting with other human beings.

Clever, clever Shou.

The whole deal with Keiko smiling at the end has so many layers each with different significance. As talked about, it involves Ran having nightmares about Keiko leaving her in a heterosexual relationship. But there's also the fact that Keiko smiled biggest during that scene with the kid. Which scares Ran because she feels as though she may not have been the highlight of the 'date'. But also because Ran could never provide that for Keiko: a kid. Biology works against her on this one.

But on the flip side, Keiko does not seem to be the person who would necessarily need the kid to be her own...she could adopt just any cute child and she'd be happy. And we have all the previous chapters emphasizing how much Keiko needs and cares for Ran, and how much she has had to realize it. So while there's angsty-fear in this chapter, it is coupled with the fact that when one thinks about the story as a whole, there's not much to be fearful of.

Fucking Shou.

But on the flip side, Keiko does not seem to be the person who would necessarily need the kid to be her own...she could adopt just any cute child and she'd be happy.

Yeah adopting...

I love how everyone is treating Keiko like a invaluable vase, like she starts having a breakdown any second now if people don't keep watch out, ''OMG, THERE IS A CHILD AND SHE HAD A MISCARRIAGE WATCH OUT GUYS''
Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this

Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this.

But in the story she cries about it multiple times in the story and has nightmares. Who knows how regular these episodes are, we don't see everyday of their lives afterall. Is it so strange that Ran might be concerned?

Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this.

But in the story she cries about it multiple times in the story and has nightmares. Who knows how regular these episodes are, we don't see everyday of their lives afterall. Is it so strange that Ran might be concerned?

To be honest, I just read the latest chapter and went on what other people said, she handled it pretty well
Also interesting that Keiko is aware of her bad dreams

Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this

Exactly. Ran was simply worried that Keiko might fall into despair again. And perhaps the reason Ran suggested they drink some alcohol is because she just loves drinking? Maybe later in the chapter it's something Ran has to work on and resolve for herself.

Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this

Exactly. Ran was simply worried that Keiko might fall into despair again. And perhaps the reason Ran suggested they drink some alcohol is because she just loves drinking? Maybe later in the chapter it's something Ran has to work on and resolve for herself.

I've always wondered about Ran. People who drink a lot usually drink for a reason, what's hers? I mean aside the father thing, she drank before that.

Come on guys, I know she has her moments, but she is an adult, Ran should know this

Exactly. Ran was simply worried that Keiko might fall into despair again. And perhaps the reason Ran suggested they drink some alcohol is because she just loves drinking? Maybe later in the chapter it's something Ran has to work on and resolve for herself.

I've always wondered about Ran. People who drink a lot usually drink for a reason, what's hers? I mean aside the father thing, she drank before that.

From what I understand, Ran started drinking after her father died. That alone could be the reason. It might still have a huge effect on her. But I guess you can count the fact that she's a med student. That can be stressful too.

(Might I dare add that her unrequited love/crush on Keiko is eating at her as well).

From what I understand, Ran started drinking after her father died. That alone could be the reason. It might still have a huge effect on her. But I guess you can count the fact that she's a med student. That can be stressful too.

(Might I dare add that her unrequited love/crush on Keiko is eating at her as well).

Most probably father and romance, Ran said she's always been a good student. I can relate, I have awesome memory, I can safely say that if not for my memory I would be in a very different situation today. I played vidja games way too much in High school and college, if I was anywhere near average It would of been flunk galore.

But on the flip side, Keiko does not seem to be the person who would necessarily need the kid to be her own...she could adopt just any cute child and she'd be happy.

Yeah adopting...

I know there used to be the whole "the gays r bad 4 chldrn" mentality right now but same-sex partnerships is legal in a municipality in Tokyo now.

So there's definitely a LOT of loopholes one could use.

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But on the flip side, Keiko does not seem to be the person who would necessarily need the kid to be her own...she could adopt just any cute child and she'd be happy.

Yeah adopting...

I know there used to be the whole "the gays r bad 4 chldrn" mentality right now but same-sex partnerships is legal in a municipality in Tokyo now.

So there's definitely a LOT of loopholes one could use.

Marriage in one municipality (which the country's government definitely does not like) is still a long way from adoption rights. There's still a long battle ahead, we may not even see the end in our lifetime.

From what I understand, Ran started drinking after her father died. That alone could be the reason. It might still have a huge effect on her. But I guess you can count the fact that she's a med student. That can be stressful too.

(Might I dare add that her unrequited love/crush on Keiko is eating at her as well).

^ Yeah Ran started her alcoholic tendencies after her dad died. But if I remember correctly, from that one glorious chapter where she got wasted and Keiko shot her like 10 texts and calls out of worry, she's been sober for a while.

Lately I think she likes to get drunk with Keiko...she doesn't really ever do it alone except for that one time when the bar threw a party for Keiko's ex. I think Ran thinks it's unrequited love, but up to this point it doesn't bother her more than simply being with Keiko makes her happy.

She is one to throw hints around deviously, so her asking Keiko to get wasted with her at that moment I suspect is a mini plea.

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