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Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

and you told me if i knew the concept of a rhetorical question, you crack me up

poor nez so misunderstood

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

and you told me if i knew the concept of a rhetorical question, you crack me up

poor nez so misunderstood

Only my therapist understands me.

And I don't have a therapist.

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

and you told me if i knew the concept of a rhetorical question, you crack me up

poor nez so misunderstood

Nez scares me so I always assumed she's serious.

And to be fair, not actually a question.

But seriously, your method may be joking (which I could tell, just for the record) but the message I thought was serious.

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Utena%20rose%20white%20200x200
joined Mar 28, 2014

Only my therapist understands me.

And I don't have a therapist.

good you didn't add an extra space after the...

btw next stretch's in a week, right?

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

Only my therapist understands me.

And I don't have a therapist.

good you didn't add an extra space after the...

btw next stretch's in a week, right?

Good her rapist doesn't understand her or good she doesn't have a rapist?

OrangePekoe Admin
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joined Mar 20, 2013

His other work are all classic hentai, sometimes two very close girl does things with each other but it's all about friendly/sisterly sex to help guys jerk off (during or preceding a threesome with the boyfriend)
No bait so no switch

My brain still cannot compute how such a genius writer like him ended up getting stuck with that. Don't get me wrong, there's a time and place for hentai, but we don't exactly read it for the story. Mostly.

As I've said before, there may have been a time that Shou drew loli "just to pay the bills," but it's something he very clearly enjoys and carries a good deal of prestige doing. Like the vast majority of porn artists, he didn't "get stuck" doing it, he chose to do it. I'll stop myself there.

On a side note, I died laughing at "sisterly sex."

Utena%20rose%20white%20200x200
joined Mar 28, 2014

Only my therapist understands me.

And I don't have a therapist.

good you didn't add an extra space after the...

btw next stretch's in a week, right?

Good her rapist doesn't understand her or good she doesn't have a rapist?

I'll leave that to the stretch of your imagination

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

I looked up Shou's loli hentai and I found it very disturbing. Really, really not my cup of tea (it's basically rape of seemingly very young girls and het to boot). I stopped after a few pages, but what has been seen cannot be unseen... yuck.

What's disturbing is that the art is similar to Prism and Stretch and I just can't connect the two type of stories. It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

joined Oct 12, 2013

I looked up Shou's loli hentai and I found it very disturbing. Really, really not my cup of tea (it's basically rape of seemingly very young girls and het to boot). I stopped after a few pages, but what has been seen cannot be unseen... yuck.

What's disturbing is that the art is similar to Prism and Stretch and I just can't connect the two type of stories. It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

The realism that makes Stretch so good makes his loli peculiarly unsettling.

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

I looked up Shou's loli hentai and I found it very disturbing. Really, really not my cup of tea (it's basically rape of seemingly very young girls and het to boot). I stopped after a few pages, but what has been seen cannot be unseen... yuck.

What's disturbing is that the art is similar to Prism and Stretch and I just can't connect the two type of stories. It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

When i need to forget something I punch my head repeatedly.

If you're thinking there is a link between this and my intelligence, there is.

Commandershepard13
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joined Mar 24, 2014

I looked up Shou's loli hentai and I found it very disturbing. Really, really not my cup of tea (it's basically rape of seemingly very young girls and het to boot). I stopped after a few pages, but what has been seen cannot be unseen... yuck.

What's disturbing is that the art is similar to Prism and Stretch and I just can't connect the two type of stories. It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

When i need to forget something I punch my head repeatedly.

If you're thinking there is a link between this and my intelligence, there is.

I do the same damn thing.
Do you use an open palm to the forehead or a closed fist straight to the face?

Utena%20rose%20white%20200x200
joined Mar 28, 2014

I do the same damn thing.
Do you use an open palm to the forehead or a closed fist straight to the face?

I suggest you to use Ran's V figure from my picture and apply it to the eyes - very efficient

Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

The realism that makes Stretch so good makes his loli peculiarly unsettling.

It's like people that draw stuff like that are actual fucking human beings, crazy I know!

joined Mar 23, 2013

It's like something done by two different persons, yet with the same art. Creepy.

An artist can draw different things! Incredible he must be an alien.

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

I've read all loli from Shou before Prism was made and I don't remember any rape in them, it's all consensual sex, so don't say it's basically rape, because it's not rape since they wanted it.

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joined Mar 23, 2013

I've read all loli from Shou before Prism was made and I don't remember any rape in them, it's all consensual sex.

Lolis are too young to consent, tis' rape every single one of them. You have to think not in your depraved hentai goggles but as a respectful individual. I know, it's hard...

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

I've read all loli from Shou before Prism was made and I don't remember any rape in them, it's all consensual sex.

Lolis are too young to consent, tis' rape every single one of them. You have to think not in your depraved hentai goggles but as a respectful individual. I know, it's hard...

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai? Really? I've read a lot of rape so I know very well when it's rape, so I repeat, Shou never made rape, he did loli hentai, deal with it.

It's becoming annoying how some of you keep whining because Shou made loli hentai, accept it and go on with your life.

last edited at May 20, 2015 11:54PM

OriginalGengar
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joined Nov 29, 2014

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai?

Not gonna comment on the rape or Shou because I'm not gonna read his loli porn, but yes, being hentai doesn't excuse the lack of like, common decency. Just because the average hentai is shitty and morally wrong doesn't make the individual hentai less shitty and morally wrong.

But I think we had this discussion before and it's only gonna take like 10 posts at most until Nezchan says to cut it. So let's just cut it now.

last edited at May 20, 2015 11:54PM

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai?

Not gonna comment on the rape or Shou because I'm not gonna read his loli porn, but yes, being hentai doesn't excuse the lack of like, common decency. Just because the average hentai is shitty and morally wrong doesn't make the individual hentai less shitty and morally wrong.

But I think we had this discussion before and it's only gonna take like 10 posts at most until Nezchan says to cut it. So let's just cut it now.

I've SO got y'all trained. :-D

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai?

Not gonna comment on the rape or Shou because I'm not gonna read his loli porn, but yes, being hentai doesn't excuse the lack of like, common decency. Just because the average hentai is shitty and morally wrong doesn't make the individual hentai less shitty and morally wrong.

But I think we had this discussion before and it's only gonna take like 10 posts at most until Nezchan says to cut it. So let's just cut it now.

It's fiction, it don't need to have decency and morality, it's whatever the creator want it to be, those who don't like it don't read it, or you also want to discuss how hentai is offensive and degrading to fictonal characters?

And I'm not going to say more so we don't go off topic.

last edited at May 21, 2015 12:02AM

joined Mar 23, 2013

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai? Really? I've read a lot of rape so I know very well when it's rape, so I repeat, Shou never made rape, he did loli hentai, deal with it.

It's becoming annoying how some of you keep whining because Shou made loli hentai, accept it and go on with your life.

I'm a fellow depraved person, I was just playing for the "other side".

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

You want to argue about laws when we're talking about hentai? Really? I've read a lot of rape so I know very well when it's rape, so I repeat, Shou never made rape, he did loli hentai, deal with it.

It's becoming annoying how some of you keep whining because Shou made loli hentai, accept it and go on with your life.

I'm a fellow depraved person, I was just playing for the "other side".

How dare you play for the other side, we should stick together!

last edited at May 21, 2015 1:40AM

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Anyway, I didn't say Shou's loli hentai was filthy, or wrong. I'm not that a bigot when it comes to 2D. I couldn't care less about the wellbeing of pixels. I just said it was disturbing, because when you look at the characters, you can see a young Hikaru, a young Megumi, a young Ran, a young Keiko.

We spend a long time here pondering and writing about the thought process of fictionnal characters, empathizing with them, delving into their personnal "stories". So why wouldn't it be the same with hentai characters, especially when the setups are realistic, like in Shou's work? If you follow the same process than with Stretch characters, then it becomes disturbing, because you can only come to the conclusion that the characters in there are all very sick.

And yes, there's rape, because at least twice in what I read, the "receiving character" was asleep and unable to consent. I know it's a setup by the author to allow consent down the road because "it's sooo good I can't help to want more...", but it describes rape nevertheless.

So I accept he did write that kind of stuff, probably because he enjoys it and it makes good money, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

tldr; when you read something you enjoy immensely, like Stretch or Prism, you want to admire the author and think that he's a great person because he can write something like this, but then you are confronted to the reality of the person and it's a let down.

Thiaguinho-sama
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joined May 11, 2012

Well of course you'll see young versions of them, you expected that when he did a non-h manga he would change completely his art? That was inevitable, but I understand why that's feel disturbig for some of you.

It wouldn't be the same because almost all hentai is not made to be something deep, it just have excuse plot for characters to have sex, even if it's made by Shou you can't compare to Stretch, his loli hentai is nothing special or realistic, it's just normal fap material, no deep story or anything like that, you guys are just thinking too much about it.

Nope, it's not rape, if you had read it you would have seen that in the last page the girl herself says it was all roleplay, if you pay attention you'll even notice that except for the first page and the last two all others have black background, because it was the girl thinking about the sex she had last night, all his loli is pretty tame compared to most mangakas because he never did rape or anything that involves something the girl don't want.

Of course you don't need to like it, but want to believe that only because someone made something you like he's a great person, that's just being naive, you're just forcing your unrealistic expectations on him, he's not a great guy just because he's good at writing and not a horrible person because he made loli, no one have the right to feel disappointed because he likes to make loli hentai, he's an inperfect human with flaws like everyone else, if you really like him you'll need to accept the things you don't like in him, Warts and All.

And one last thing, I don't know if it'll make you guys feel better, but his last loli release was his anthology Nymphodelic in 2013, all chapters came months before, after it's release he started Stretch and didn't make any new hentai, and after the success of Prism and the success Stretch is making, I don't think he'll make any hentai for a long time, if he even make hentai again since he's so good at writing.

So now people plese, stop whining because he made loli hentai.

last edited at May 21, 2015 3:03AM

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

tldr; when you read something you enjoy immensely, like Stretch or Prism, you want to admire the author and think that he's a great person because he can write something like this, but then you are confronted to the reality of the person and it's a let down.

Honestly, that is a pretty narrow and somewhat unfair point of view.

Creators are humans too, and are free to like and do whatever the hell they want. By putting them on a pedestal, you are only setting yourself for a massive dissapointment.

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