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Huh. I had a very different take on things. It felt more like Shino's an exhibitionist and the guy was just a convenient prop to give her a sense of danger. I mean, these girls had sex in a classroom while they could see other students out the window. They also brought a strap-on to school and decided to use it in the gym storage room, when they knew the soccer team was practicing.

The thrill of almost, or actually, getting caught was the point. The person doing the catching is irrelevant.

That was pretty much my take as well. Shino knows that Michiru is jealous and insecure about Shino's sexuality, and Shino deliberately encourages that because she likes it when Michiru channels that jealousy into horny possessiveness. It's maybe not the healthiest relationship dynamic in the world, but it seemed pretty clear to me that it was intentionally written to be what it was.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

Huh. I had a very different take on things. It felt more like Shino's an exhibitionist and the guy was just a convenient prop to give her a sense of danger. I mean, these girls had sex in a classroom while they could see other students out the window. They also brought a strap-on to school and decided to use it in the gym storage room, when they knew the soccer team was practicing.

The thrill of almost, or actually, getting caught was the point. The person doing the catching is irrelevant.

That was pretty much my take as well. Shino knows that Michiru is jealous and insecure about Shino's sexuality, and Shino deliberately encourages that because she likes it when Michiru channels that jealousy into horny possessiveness. It's maybe not the healthiest relationship dynamic in the world, but it seemed pretty clear to me that it was intentionally written to be what it was.

In my opinion it’s not clear, and I stand by my perspective, though I also think it’s fair that other people view the story differently. Even though it made me uncomfortable I’m glad that others enjoyed it.

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oh that’s not…

...a moon, that's a space station!

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I always enjoy when horny yuri isn't afraid of including a strap. This was pretty amateurish tho.

Another point to korean yuri

Korean yuri good with the strap? Got any examples? (For science, ofc)

Drunken Relationship, Immoral Parody, Sora and Haena (I don’t really remember But it was the first time I saw finger condoms), Damp Ascension. And those are all that I can remember

Thank you for bringing the sauce o7

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joined Feb 16, 2021

P obvious the two girls are into each other. They both have a lukewarm reaction when dude came in, its clear that the jealousy is being played on here

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Wow this had a nice vibe going until it got completely ruined lmao
The fact that the guy was IN the character introductions was a big red flag in hindsight I guess...

Male characters in Yuri can sometimes be good friends and/or provide interesting narrative elements, but I dislike the inclusion of the guy here. Him discovering them at the end, a lot of the dialogue being about jealousy because one of the girls keeps looking at him, he feels weirdly central to the story for no good reason. Plus they knew he was outside, and it was so weirdly obvious to me that he'd discover them.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm fine with stories that are bisexual (cuz I am) but this one sure isn't - it definitely swings more to the male-gazy fetisihization side. I kinda hated it.

It felt a little too much like he was the audience self-insert character, I think, probably because he was weirdly central to the narrative despite us knowing literally nothing about him. I think a version of this story even with him could've worked but it wasn't executed very well.

Yeah, and I hate male self-inserts in "yuri" with all the fucking fiber of my being - you know the specific ones I'm talking about. It's hard not to see them as pandering (aka fetishizing). I'm okay with there being an "observer" in a story that readers can relate to, but I prefer when they're fellow himejoshis or at least aroace - and not straight men who frankly do not belong there. If you're a straight man who enjoys yuri that's fine, but like, I don't think they need a self-insert in stories that are not about them.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

Wow this had a nice vibe going until it got completely ruined lmao
The fact that the guy was IN the character introductions was a big red flag in hindsight I guess...

For me, the vibes were off from the start. The fact that there was a named male character on the intro page was already so goofy that I had to laugh. Then the girls couldn't shut up about this guy, and the sex was also pretty flavorless. The fact that the very same named male character saw and interrupted them just takes this from boring to "ick", it didn't ruin anything actually good.

Male characters in Yuri can sometimes be good friends and/or provide interesting narrative elements, but I dislike the inclusion of the guy here. Him discovering them at the end, a lot of the dialogue being about jealousy because one of the girls keeps looking at him, he feels weirdly central to the story for no good reason. Plus they knew he was outside, and it was so weirdly obvious to me that he'd discover them.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm fine with stories that are bisexual (cuz I am) but this one sure isn't - it definitely swings more to the male-gazy fetisihization side. I kinda hated it.

It felt a little too much like he was the audience self-insert character, I think, probably because he was weirdly central to the narrative despite us knowing literally nothing about him. I think a version of this story even with him could've worked but it wasn't executed very well.

Yeah, and I hate male self-inserts in "yuri" with all the fucking fiber of my being - you know the specific ones I'm talking about. It's hard not to see them as pandering (aka fetishizing). I'm okay with there being an "observer" in a story that readers can relate to, but I prefer when they're fellow himejoshis or at least aroace - and not straight men who frankly do not belong there. If you're a straight man who enjoys yuri that's fine, but like, I don't think they need a self-insert in stories that are not about them.

I don't believe "male gaze" and "fetishizing" are helpful analysis because people say that about any and all yuri without any rhyme or reason. No, if there is a problem here, it's that this oneshot fails to treat even the audience with the bare minimum of respect: the lesbian sex it depicts ends not on an orgasm but the reaction shot of a guy.

This is anticlimax in the most literal sense: the sex scene ends on the very moment of the boy interrupting them, and the oneshot ends on the next page, with the girls laughing the whole thing off like a pair of vapid NPCs. It's not uncommon in yuri porn that somebody accidentally sees the couple when they do it somewhere they're not supposed to, but being seen by somebody does not tend to end the fun. For example, in (don't laugh) 'Fingering Karaoke' by Aweida, the couple only learns that the store clerk saw them on CCTV after they get dressed and leave the karaoke booth, and they're still incredibly embarrassed even though the store clerk is a woman.

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For me, the vibes were off from the start. The fact that there was a named male character on the intro page was already so goofy that I had to laugh. Then the girls couldn't shut up about this guy, and the sex was also pretty flavorless. The fact that the very same named male character saw and interrupted them just takes this from boring to "ick", it didn't ruin anything actually good.

Yeah - there were a lot of red flags, more than just the guy in the introduction page. In hindsight everything feels gross but I guess I expected at least some decent chemistry between them that stemmed from jealousy. Yeah no I change my mind, the vibes were pretty bad from the start.

I don't believe "male gaze" and "fetishizing" are helpful analysis because people say that about any and all yuri without any rhyme or reason. No, if there is a problem here, it's that this oneshot fails to treat even the audience with the bare minimum of respect: the lesbian sex it depicts ends not on an orgasm but the reaction shot of a guy.

This is anticlimax in the most literal sense: the sex scene ends on the very moment of the boy interrupting them, and the oneshot ends on the next page, with the girls laughing the whole thing off like a pair of vapid NPCs. It's not uncommon in yuri porn that somebody accidentally sees the couple when they do it somewhere they're not supposed to, but being seen by somebody does not tend to end the fun.

Yeah, I agree with you about the climax. But I feel like that further proves my point this IS fetishization/male-gaze. Unfair labels do get tossed around sometimes by bad-faith actors but it is important to call it out when it actually is exactly that. Cuz like, lesbian fetishization is a real problem that does exist, and this kind of shit falls into that category for many of the reasons people listed on this thread.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

Of course, I get where you're coming from. It's not that I am against using the male gaze and the fetishization of lesbians as critical tools, I just don't like invoking them in place of more tangible criticism. I find it more worthwhile to admit what I specifically didn't like, what gave me the ick in concrete terms.

My axe the grind with this oneshot was that it introduced an uncomfortable tension (is the audience meant to identify with this guy and to assume/hope he has a chance with these girls?) and never resolved it, while failing to make up for it by delivering even on the fundamentals. These flaws in the work might have something to do with the way straight men view women and lesbianism, but I'm not comfortable drawing that kind of conclusion unless I have a good case for it.

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Yeah I get ya, I just figured the criticism you laid out would lead to the same conclusion as mine. I agree sometimes it's reductive to prematurely label things a certain way but I thought enough discourse was already done on this thread for me to cut the chase and just state it outright. I appreciate you articulating the reasoning in detail tho!

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Haha deffo a Dynasty Scan thing for discussion to be so long regarding prolly just a fetish erotica

Anw, I’d like to point out that despite Shino (readily) admitting to liking being penetrated, she was the one who put on the strap.

I do believe Shino when she said she was spacing out. But I like that we as audience can definitely doubt her.

It’s a nice one-shot overall. And I don’t think it center the male character at all. He’s more like a tool to ignite the jealousy and possessiveness. The scene where he walked in on them is more for comedy to me, but I don’t doubt it’s also a fetishy detail.

Some yuri written by non-sapphic ppl likes to play on the idea of sapphic sex vs. hetero penetrative sex. I have seen some yuri that despite having no male character, still featuring the girls talking about het sex and comparing their exp to that (you can say “centering” the het sex Ig). This one shot seems to be one of those cases.

It seems to me these girls are super into each other though, this is one of the better eroticas in that group imo.

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yooo amazing

Anw, I’d like to point out that despite Shino (readily) admitting to liking being penetrated, she was the one who put on the strap.

I honestly liked this detail a lot, because there's something sweet about how she's the one strapping Michiru and telling her how she loves her (soberly) despite her own love for being the one on the receiving end. It's lowkey romantic imo lol

guy who was a plot tool

yeah, I agree, he was mostly there for the possessiveness piece, but him walking in on them at the end was a nice comic relief that also culminates in how the reader can see that he really wasn't important, because Michiru and Shino both laugh about it in a way that showcases their love for each other

all in all, a banger

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