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jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

joined Mar 14, 2013

jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

Chinatsu%202
joined Jan 27, 2016

jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

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jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

tbf, it's hot. Also to be fair, it's only hot if the innocent girl want to be corrupted, and is actively into her corruption. That's some A+ shit.

S129
joined Aug 2, 2015

jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

tbf, it's hot. Also to be fair, it's only hot if the innocent girl want to be corrupted, and is actively into her corruption. That's some A+ shit.

Consent is sexy, and this kind of stuff is only really good if there's a safeword involved and everyone fully understands and communicates what they're comfortable with. Which is something that's always left behind the scenes even though it's probably the most important step. And then people think it's normal and think people saying "no" is just for fun when it's not.

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jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

tbf, it's hot. Also to be fair, it's only hot if the innocent girl want to be corrupted, and is actively into her corruption. That's some A+ shit.

Consent is sexy, and this kind of stuff is only really good if there's a safeword involved and everyone fully understands and communicates what they're comfortable with. Which is something that's always left behind the scenes even though it's probably the most important step. And then people think it's normal and think people saying "no" is just for fun when it's not.

Oh I mean, yeah if we're talking CNC, what with 'corruption' that's not even necessarily CNC, I just meant girls who are presumed as innocent who actually are just kinda horny, and really want another girl in bed. But yeah for CNC safewords are obviously essential, as are checking in, and aftercare, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't handled. Proper BDSM never shows up in manga tho so that's not surprising, even if it is disappointing.

Ce1
joined Apr 11, 2016

Oh sure, when she hears voices through the wall, she has "hot neighbors" as gets "invited to a threesome" but when I hear them, I'm "schizophrenic" and "must get locked in the attic for my own safety".

So yeah, let's keep it coming.

joined Mar 14, 2013

Anyway, given a 'dubious consent' tag doesn't exist, is that something I can just... suggest in the upload notes, or...?

Cv7t70_vyaagwe3
joined Nov 19, 2017

Meanwhile I get rats in the wall, and I'm not making a Lovecraft reference. Damn rodents tunneling into the house again.

Yuriprofilepiccropped
joined May 27, 2019

jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

tbf, it's hot. Also to be fair, it's only hot if the innocent girl want to be corrupted, and is actively into her corruption. That's some A+ shit.

Consent is sexy, and this kind of stuff is only really good if there's a safeword involved and everyone fully understands and communicates what they're comfortable with. Which is something that's always left behind the scenes even though it's probably the most important step. And then people think it's normal and think people saying "no" is just for fun when it's not.

Oh I mean, yeah if we're talking CNC, what with 'corruption' that's not even necessarily CNC, I just meant girls who are presumed as innocent who actually are just kinda horny, and really want another girl in bed. But yeah for CNC safewords are obviously essential, as are checking in, and aftercare, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't handled. Proper BDSM never shows up in manga tho so that's not surprising, even if it is disappointing.

I would adore a series that featured BDSM with actual aftercare. Some kind of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things show but with floggers and rope, I guess? Really it would be nice to see BDSM that gets into how different people's taste can get as far as what kinds of scenes/play they're into.

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jintor posted:

I'm definitely not entirely comfortable with this chapter, but I'll stick around for a while, hopefully it gets better

I'll be blunt, the low point for this kinda stuff is probably chapter 5 and then it gets less overtly aggressive from that point on. I'm thinking of releasing double chapters to blunt the impact slightly, if possible.

I don't think it's gonna help avoid the complains but I'll stick with it until the end! if anything, just use a tag like dubious consent or a warning page at the start, and if they read it anyway and get mad, that's on them.

Of course, I get it, it's more beautiful when everything works out mutually, but if it isn't the case and you're fully aware you just have to make a choice.

God I wish Dynasty used consent tags more consistently I'm real tired of being blindsided with rape scenes.

If there is a rape scene, it's generally tag as such you know. Here it's just that MC is guillable and the two neighboors are playing on it. They're just more aggresive (and lesbians) version of Hino-san.

Usually only if it's violent rape rather than that Japanese trope where the character is visibly distressed and keeps saying no but I'm expected to interpret that as her being coy.

Consent is sexy I wish they didn't always have people say 'no' over and over ugh.

I wonder if that's an 'actual japanese culture is this way in regards to being in sexually charged situations' thing or just a 'japanese media is this way' thing (probably both)

I suspect it's an artistic exaggeration of the existing societal expectation that women be extremely demure about wanting sex. There's a pretty massive genre of porn for the fetish of 'innocent/pure' women being corrupted into enjoying sex.

tbf, it's hot. Also to be fair, it's only hot if the innocent girl want to be corrupted, and is actively into her corruption. That's some A+ shit.

Consent is sexy, and this kind of stuff is only really good if there's a safeword involved and everyone fully understands and communicates what they're comfortable with. Which is something that's always left behind the scenes even though it's probably the most important step. And then people think it's normal and think people saying "no" is just for fun when it's not.

Oh I mean, yeah if we're talking CNC, what with 'corruption' that's not even necessarily CNC, I just meant girls who are presumed as innocent who actually are just kinda horny, and really want another girl in bed. But yeah for CNC safewords are obviously essential, as are checking in, and aftercare, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't handled. Proper BDSM never shows up in manga tho so that's not surprising, even if it is disappointing.

I would adore a series that featured BDSM with actual aftercare. Some kind of Cute Girls Doing Cute Things show but with floggers and rope, I guess? Really it would be nice to see BDSM that gets into how different people's taste can get as far as what kinds of scenes/play they're into.

I would lose it. Aftercare in media makes me melt like little else does. It's so soft and good.

Aftercare in real life also makes me melt like little else does. Aftercare is just good.

Anyway that'd be lit. Yuri BDSM manga that has actually healthy good BDSM.

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

I think there was the very long LL doujin with i believe it's MakiHonoka where there was aftercare but i'm not really into BDSM that much to know other examples.

New%20dynasty%20reader%20profile
joined Oct 22, 2018

LL

real-time word association kicks in:

You mean that Malaysian Polandball animator?

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joined Nov 26, 2019

I think there was the very long LL doujin with i believe it's MakiHonoka where there was aftercare but i'm not really into BDSM that much to know other examples.

The Dog's Desire and the Reality of Discipline - it's okay, not actually that aftercare-y. I still enjoyed it, knowing nothing about the characters, because kinky petplay and reversal are both good times, but eh. Not what I was looking for asking about aftercare manga, then or now. Also worth noting that it's quite good about consent, one of the only BDSM manga I've ever seen that made me believe the author knew anything about BDSM.

Edit: okay I misremembered, it's sometimes good about consent. They do the checking in and affirmative consent thing, but also the "ah no stop" thing where they just keep going and apparently that's okay and what the person wanted? Don't love that.

last edited at Jan 31, 2020 6:12PM

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

LL

real-time word association kicks in:

You mean that Malaysian Polandball animator?

I think you're the only one who have this association

New%20dynasty%20reader%20profile
joined Oct 22, 2018

LL

real-time word association kicks in:

You mean that Malaysian Polandball animator?

I think you're the only one who have this association

Damn it...
Not only for that fact, but also because you replied before I could edit my post by adding a hyperlink in. Oh, well, might as well do it here

last edited at Jan 31, 2020 6:10PM

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

I think there was the very long LL doujin with i believe it's MakiHonoka where there was aftercare but i'm not really into BDSM that much to know other examples.

The Dog's Desire and the Reality of Discipline - it's okay, not actually that aftercare-y. I still enjoyed it, knowing nothing about the characters, because kinky petplay and reversal are both good times, but eh. Not what I was looking for asking about aftercare manga, then or now.

Like i said i'm not very verse into BDSM but the few things i know is generally it's either play absurdly with one M person being rather extrem like The Real Her or it's straigh hentai and generally don't really care of the aftermath and just focus well on the sex scened. Honestly i don't remember much Yuri BDSM series other than The Real Her and they don't really do anything in it.

but also the "ah no stop" thing where they just keep going and apparently that's okay and what the person wanted? Don't love that.

This one always seem to pop up even when both persons give consent. Althought i think we might have gone a bit off-topic with the BDSM part because the manga doesn't have any for the moment.

last edited at Jan 31, 2020 6:15PM

joined Jul 26, 2016
joined Mar 14, 2013

Nana to kaoru isn't yuri but it sure as fuck is BDSM. Good BDSM too... I think.

Anyway, double chapters on next upload. Should be in a day or two.

last edited at Feb 1, 2020 9:52PM

Yuriprofilepiccropped
joined May 27, 2019

Nana to kaoru isn't yuri but it sure as fuck is BDSM. Good BDSM too... I think.

Anyway, double chapters on next upload. Should be in a day or two.

Nana to Kaoru will probably remain the gold standard for BDSM in manga for decades to come. It's just so good.

Download_20181110_194445-1-1
joined Feb 12, 2016

Wow that was adorable. I'm certainly votin for this cute fanged neighbor more than the other one

Gay
joined Jun 13, 2016

i fucking love this with all my organs please eradicate me so i can see the future of this yuri with my mystical death powers

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

The long-haired one does seem like she's earning more points at the moment.

Smol%20dankkonata
joined Oct 10, 2018

My yuri goggles foresee... a possible poly ending??? Or at least a FWB triangle.

Nyohohoho
joined Apr 20, 2013

When you see someone with only T-shirts is your duty to save them ...
Also that's one of the best paybacks I've seen! right in the middle of the city... nice.

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