Azuma Hazuki posted:
I've worked with survivors of human trafficking, incest, and various other forms of abuse. Most of them were underage when it happened. And well over half the time, their abusers would say something like "she came on to me!" or "It's obvious she wanted it!" or some other variation on that theme. From reading the previous comments it sounds like that trope is being played to the hilt with this one.
Except in manga you can clearly see that loli is indeed the one doing it. There is no lying or excusing, "it was their fault!", so no, people talk about loli actually being the aggressive one. If you don't want to look silly making arguments and critic based on wrong assumptions and information, then next time read it yourself before actually judging it, because you're totally off base.
Now...I get it. Freedom of speech. no one is actually being harmed, etc etc. I get it. And very likely no one reading this is going to lay hands on a child, or think it's okay to. But I do think it's time this sort of material was removed from the site and banned from further uploads.
So you understand it and yet still want to get it banned? Hypocritical much? So you want it banned just because you don't like it and don't want to see it? Even if you know it's not actually harmful and not the source of the issue?
Azuma Hazuki posted:
Not the bloody point. People that young are not only not predators (as if a child could prey on an adult!), they aren't ready for sex, physically or emotionally.
Actually yes, it is. Ignoring real life and discussion whatever any child can be mature enough to consciously do or want those thing, that is exactly why it's ok. Because it's fiction. It doesn't actually happen. Nobody is hurt in the process.
I was 9 when my periods started, and my sister was 8. By some definitions, that means we were "ready for sex." We were children. At 9 what I was ready for was fourth grade.
Yes, "it's a drawing." I'm sure there are drawings of other things you'd find objectionable enough to wish banned, and which would make you seriously wonder about the sanity and/or morals of people who enjoy them.
And again. Nobody forces you to look at those drawings. People like you don't understand that that is what fiction is for. It allows you to explore those things that you're uncomfortable with in safe environment. Without actually hurting anyone or being hurt. Just hiding it under carpet and pretending it doesn't exist, won't magically make it go away. It will still happen irl. Also usually it has nothing to do with sanity or morals. It's called thought experiment. Just because you write about something, it doesn't mean you have to agree or enjoy it. Or you might only like it in fiction. People are complex enough to understand that certain things that they might not mind or even enjoy in book or movie, are not ok happening in reality. There is plenty examples of other stuff in media that nobody sane would actually enjoy and yet we constantly keep making movies, books, games etc. about it and nobody bats an eye. And when someone take it seriously and tries to do those things outside of it, we call them "insane". And finally, can you imagine how you would feel if someone decided to arbitrary ban something you enjoy and you have no saying in it? Because they just happen to find it disgusting, repulsive and having bad influence? Sorta like yuri in some countries? Would you still be for banning stuff that people find uncomfortable?
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